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Quote of the day, and one I will use again. Thanks Pwn. Quality

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Not gonna lie, you got some truth. But you can’t deny heavy weights can be dangerous. A friend of a friend had a vein in is ass blow up during deadlifts. He had to go to the hospital. If they happen on light weights, they can happen on heavy weights also.

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Well I don’t know what’s wrong with that? If i can lift a weight with a bad technique, i ain’t gonna do that.

If i have a program, i’m gonna push myself no matter if i have a training partner or not. Currently i have motivation, maybe later ill have less motivation so i’ll need a partner. But i agree with you for the most part.

But you can’t deny heavy weights can be dangerous.

Everything can be dangerous. People drown in puddles, or when they fall asleep while eating a bowl of soup. In turn, we calculate danger by a comparison of magnitude and probability.

You wanna know what’s the most dangerous thing you’ll do in the gym? Shower after training. Look up the death rate of people that slip in the shower and die vs people that die from lifting weights: the numbers don’t even compare. If you wanna talk injuries, slip and fall injuries from the show still beat lifting injuries. How much prep do you put into your shower ritual? How often do you analyze your shower shoes to make sure they still have adequate tread?

And actually, did you know the REAL danger happened on the way to the gym? Yeah, driving kills people by the truckload (pun partially intended). Were you listening to music while you drove to the gym? Or god forbid, texting while driving? But now you’re gonna worry about the weights?

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That’s not a good thinking in my opinion. If we can make things un-dangerous, i think that’s preferable. Driving a car is dangerous, but you try to make it less dangerous. Same in weights. Weights are dangerous, but good technique prevents injuries. Maybe fly to nepal now? It might be dangerous but who cares, driving a car is also dangerous.

If we can make things un-dangerous, i think that’s preferable

None of my questions in my post were rhetorical.

How often do you analyze your shower shoes to make sure they still have adequate tread?

Were you listening to music while you drove to the gym? Or god forbid, texting while driving?

Go on.

Right, and i didn’t treat it that way.

You’re still not answering them :slight_smile:

All the things you said are dangerous. I didn’t say otherwise. But it doesn’t mean that we should add things that are dangerous to our day to day lives.

I am, literally asking you, when was the last time you inspected the tread on your shower shoes. English may not be your primarily language, so I apologize for the confusion, but when I said my questions weren’t rhetorical, it meant that they were actual questions. I was asking them seeking an answer: not an acknowledgement. It was not a rhetorical device to convey a point: it was a question seeking an answer.

Alright,

None; never.

Yes; oh no.

Lets see where that gets us

And therein lies the rub: your perception of danger is way off calibration. When you can do simple things that could prevent you from dying in ways most common to the population, you don’t, but when situations arise where risk is low, you show concern.

Good technique is awesome. We should always strive for it. Heavy weights should be respected. Injuries can happen, but we’re thankfully pretty good at healing from them. But fear of injury, quite often, prevents trainees from ever actually making progress.

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To add some of my personal experience of three decades of lifting weights with the sole aim to compete in bodybuilding, I assure you I was intimately familiar with injuries.

I managed the first 6 years of training without an injury. Then I had a shoulder injury that took about 4 months to sufficiently heal to go back to bench pressing. Then the next year I tweaked the other shoulder.

My favorite triceps ecxercise was skull crushers. I added some good size doing them. Then came elbow pain. I had to drop skull crushers.

Then not warming up properly because I got to tge gym a little late and bruised both of my patella tendons. Those haunted me thereafter. They got a little better but never the same.

I hurt my brachial tendon doing heavy pull-ups and had to give those up.

From 30 years old going forward I was training with at least two injuries and usually three injuries.

At 31 years of age I felt a slight pec tear aiming to get my competitive bench press to 500lbs. (I had done a 450lb bench press in a meet a few weeks before.) I gave up heavy bench pressing because my priority was bodybuilding.

I had a right biceps “tear” doing 60lb dumbbell Scott bench curls, which I later totally ruptured 11 days before the Master’s Nationals doing leg presses.

It would be insane to use me as an example that weight lifting is a safe, injury free, endeavor.

By the age of 65 I needed both hips replaced.

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Is the risk low? Risk is low only when there is good technique. Maybe in my age the risk is even lower, and maybe i’ll never have injuries because i don’t know maybe i have good genetics or maybe not.

Correct, but it’s not in my case. I still don’t understand. Why do you think i’m not making progress because i’m afraid of injuries? I push, but i’m just worried of bad technique, that’s all. I’m always pushing.

Is the risk low?

Yes.

Why do you think i’m not making progress because i’m afraid of injuries?

I don’t think that. I think your lack of progress stems from overthinking while, at the same time, a lack of proper academic rigor. It’s something we tend to observe with a generation that’s been “educated” primarily through social media rather than publications and flat out just getting in the trenches, throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what sticks.

Oh yeah, and, of course: undereating.

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Yes, i don’t have someone to tutor me so i have to rely on the internet, and sometimes on youtube. There is so much stuff that you become confused.

Why aren’t books an option?

It’s hard to find a good book.

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I very VERY much disagree. I have read many on the subject, and most could be downloaded to a Kindle app. It could not be more convenient.

You have suggestions other than Jim Wendler?