Can’t figure out calories

Do yourself a favor and switch to Cronometer.
It works the same as MFP, but more streamlined. And you can scan barcodes.

3 Likes

Yes! I just switched from MFP to this a few days ago. Sooooo much easier and more accurate. It will make everything easier for you.

2 Likes

Very valid - thanks!

This happens to all of us! In fact, almost everyone will lose weight just from keeping a food journal… even if they don’t consciously change any habits to start.

2 Likes

This jumped out at me. I assume you’re frying it or adding some kind of binder to attach the cornflakes? Those hidden calories sneak up quickly.

This is a stupid image, but it gets the point across.

The first thing I would do is drop ALL processed foods. You are eating carbohydrate foods that I would never eat. Eating fruits is challenging when seeking optimal body composition.

Yes exactly: this is a method used by competitors in a sport that are aiming to be a very low bodyfat percentage for a brief moment in time. And when these guys get to that moment, their hormones are out of whack and they are miserable. And many find it necessary to use drugs just to be able to abide by this approach, either to control the damage to testosterone or GLP-1 agonist in order to combat the hunger that comes when you’re attempting to train hard without adequate caloric support. It’s not intended to be employed as a sustainable method of fat loss over a long period of time. I am glad we are in agreement on this.

2 Likes

Yeah, I dont think we are.

The methods for fat loss are the same whether competing or not. Its just a matter of how lean the individual is trying to get.

Thanks for understanding.

3 Likes

I feel we will have to agree to disagree.

I just must throw my 2 cents in. The first half of my contest diet to 10% body fat is 100% sustainable 365 days a year. Granted single digits is a completely different animal as far as sustainability is concerned.

The diet is the same methodology. As many of you know I use a feedback system to determine the amount of carbohydrates that I intake.

4 Likes

This is kind of an interesting discussion. In my own personal world, I tend more towards @Andrewgen_Receptors in approach: I just do what I think I’d do if I wanted to compete… but only up to ~6 weeks out.

On the other hand, @T3hPwnisher is more consistently and sustainably lean than I am year-round. I really do only pull it off for like a vacation or something.

I’d like to be as in-tune as @RT_Nomad, and just adjust as I go based on the mirror and the gym, but I’m typically not.

2 Likes

@RT_Nomad Also has employed the advice of Art De Vany when it comes to fat loss: “Don’t get fat in the first place”. In that regard, the path from “not fat” to lean just tends to run a different route than the path from 210 at 5’8 and 39 years old to not fat. If we pull out all the stops at the start, we leave little runway for what to do when we stall.

I think there’s a time and a place for 5 days of lifting with HIIT on non-lifting days while running 1700 calories a day: I just don’t think it’s a long time or a big place.

1 Like

This cannot be overstated.

3 Likes

Totally agree.

2 Likes

I want to point out that there seems to be a trend of men who aim for fat loss and pick arbitrary calorie numbers for semi-starvation diets under 2000 calories (eg, 1500 kcal, 1700 kcal), all of which would make us feel like shit in a day or so. I got shredded to the bone only once, and never went below 2,000 kcal. No grown men can sustant 1500 to 1700 kcal except perhaps if one must go that low at the tail end of a bodybuilding prep for a few weeks. However, I think if one needs to go that low, something was not handled correctly mid way.

Either pick a reasonable number for calories per pound to start (perhaps 12) fat loss and make adjustments from there, or take average daily maintenance calories and make a deficit from that.

6 Likes

Ive noticed the same thing…Especially online. Its almost as if its a bragging thing as if they are trying to see who is the toughest by enduring in unneeded suffering.

1 Like

First, you have to sell the idea that the only way to succeed is through unsustainable suffering. That way, you can then sell the solution.

3 Likes

That’s great marketing !!

1 Like

That’s what must social media fitness influencers and fitness “authors” do… convince their audience that there’s some secret or trick that no one else knows about.

I used to say that all the best coaches are relying on the same science.

There are no special studies that are only released to your favorite fitness celebrity of the month, and to be totally honest, most bodybuilders in the 1950’s were larger and looked a hell of about more impressive than most of the bodybuilding-experts-authors putting out articles and giving advice nowadays.

S

5 Likes

This topic was automatically closed 14 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed.