Still working on the PCT, probably Nolvedex XT or HyperTest starting week 6 and going for 6-8wks (I know some of you will jump on me for not using real Nolvadex but Ive run Nolvedex XT for my PCT my last 2 cycles and it worked out great)
I know this is a short cycle and my Testosterone and Anavar doses wont be all that high, but Im counting on Tren to be the cornerstone of my cycle and Im stacking the test just to make up for the shutdown. Ive actually run several tren-only cycles and got amazing results, I cant wait to see what gains I make after I stack it. So what do you guys think? Suggestions?
oh and btw, Im 24yrs old, been training for 4yrs and Im 6’0 215 lbs
4yrs of training, already 3 cycles in, 24 years old…
I can already tell by your post you dont listen to much advice, but I will give you that you at least added a replacement test dose to your tren, but other than that you seem rather hard headed.
We arent jumping on you about using OTC PCT products. We are advising against it because chances are if you keep using that product youll be on here sooner than later asking us for advice on how to get rid of your gyno before you start lactating.
Out of mere curiosity, how do you know the XT worked great? Because you do realize just because you lived through your “PCT” doesnt exactly mean it “worked great”.
Anavars results are minimal to begin with so a 4wk dose at 20mg ed wont be giving you much of a benefit.
Last cycle I did was 150mg of tren EOD for 8wks followed by 4wks of Nolvedex XT. At the end of my PCT my test levels came back at 495, and I experienced no loss of libido and no side effects whatsoever.
I know Anavar isnt going to give me insane results, but I just wanted to kick start my cycle with an oral and shed some fat in the process and for me Anavar seems like a better choice than Dianabol. (much easier on my liver too)
Should I abandon the Anavar entirely and instead increase my Test Cyp to say 500mg/wk?
Should I incorporate some actual Nolvadex (tamoxifin?)into my PCT?
Youre right about me being hard headed, and in retrospect I probably started using gear too early in my training regimen (1st cycle at age 22) but I do take in your advice and I know that many members of this board are much more experienced than I am so I try to learn all that I can from you. BMC, you posted on my last thread asking about using only tren with a legal test supplement and because of the advice I got from you and other members, I have decided against that and have instead found a supplier for real test. Im trying to learn here, I know that you guys will steer me in the right direction. No matter how much research I do into the safe use of AAS, nothing beats getting firsthand advice from people who have done it and are knowladgeable about it.
if you do up your test dosage youll see more of the benefits of test as opposed to just a replacement dosage.
Keeping/Removing the anavar is up to you really. Either way you have a pretty quick acting test.
Again, Im not trying to attack you about using OTC PCT products. Well I kind of am, but I just would never want to depend on an OTC product if I ever did get a flare up.
Ok cool, Im really looking forward to seeing how this stack turns out. I once ran a cycle of Test Enanthate at 500mg/wk for 10wks and although I picked up some mass and stregnth gains, I also was retaining a lot of water and picked up some fat as well. I know that test will actually accelerate fat loss, maybe it was all just water retention. In any event, I was shutdown pretty hard at the end of that cycle (and I was using actual Clomid for PCT not some OTC stuff) so ever since then Ive been somewhat apprehensive about test. I felt like total shit, I was depressed and had no energy at all for probably 2-3wks. Some people have told me that that could have just been the Clomid, apparently Clomid can make you feel pretty crappy by itself. Anyway Ive never experienced any side effects from Tren, so thats why my cycle is based around it.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Youre a complete jackass for using OTC test boosters with the intention of restarting your HPTA.
You are the epitome of a “poster boy” for how not to use AAS.
CLIFF NOTES
GTFO[/quote]
Youre right BONEZ, Ive since dropped the Anavar from my cycle and decided on some real Nolvadex instead of the OTC stuff. Another potential problem I have avoided by consulting this board…
I dont mind if you guys flame me for asking about things like this because Im learning from it and thats all that matters to me.
Novedex xt is NOT a serm and CANNOT and WILL NOT work like one…Period forget it.
It does things to shift Test/Estrogen conversion/ratios in natural men (I believe ive read) so real Nolvadex/Clomid is a must if you choose to use a serm to inhibit estrogen post cycle which will then signal your HPTA and start testes to get back on track asap.
