Can a Woman Lower a Man's Testosterone?

There is great content in the manosphere, depending on what subsphere or creator people get content from. Unfortunately much of the Manosphere has degraded to spaces of perma-angry, whining, hooting and hollering, bitter, middle-aged madmen. After listening to or reading their content, nearly all of which is women bashing, one might reasonably wonder why they provide advice on how to attract them.

The MGTOW guys are particularly incongruent. They supposedly went their own way but crank out video after video and post after post in which they discuss women.

That does happen. However, some men go toxic because they see actually toxic men attract a lot of women. I quickly realized this in my first year of middle school in 1992 at twelve years old, seven or eight years before I logged onto the internet. In the first week there was an overhead page for three troublemakers, two of whom I only knew of by name at the time because of their reputations, one of whom was a violent psychopath who later served some time for felony assault of a marine (he cracked a bottle on his head), to report to the dean’s office. Surprise, surprise. I then saw all three and their buddies routinely had a bunch of giggly girls in tow.

Has anyone observed how some young women behave around groups of toxic men? (I am using the term toxic for actually toxic and supposedly toxic men). It can make a square/lame green with envy.

A quote that bears repeating:

ā€œLike inflation, sexual ā€œliberationā€ turns the marketplace morally upside-down by actively punishing the virtuous and rewarding the vicious.ā€

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Women may lower a man’s testosterone but they also raise his blood pressure on the daily so it all evens out.

If anyone deserves it it’s that dick head

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Seen it too many times to ignore it… too many women just love a douchebag

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Humpin’ thugs.

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Oh my god don’t get me fucking started

We have a family friend… Let’s call her yeetfloopington… Lawyer + biomed double degree, super intelligent… My twin brother… law/global politics double degree… super smart…

But my brother is a ā€˜square’. He asks this girl out ā€œsorry, not attracted to youā€ even though my brother isn’t exactly bad looking (2.5 inches taller than me, not overweight etc). Unlike me my brother does not have a genetic disease (so decent potential for reproduction and having healthy offspring!)

Later on I hear she has a boyfriend, I can’t wait to meet the guy… We meet him and he is some jersey shore looking douchebag. Later I hear this guy has contacted my friends sister and sent her videos of him and yeetfloopington making out probing around for a threesome with my friends sister. Mind you my friends sister has a long term partner and is disgusted by this behaviour so she contacts yeetfloopington ā€œwhat the fuck is your boyfriend doingā€ and yeetfloopington responds ā€œoh don’t worry, it’s just a jokeā€ (no it wasn’t)… I lost a ton of respect for yeetfloopington that day.

Was originally very impressed by her academic prowess and taken aback by her high intellectual capacity… At the end of the day she is no different from the 100000 girls I saw in middle/high school who had an infatuation with douchebags.

Many girls will date a douchebag/predator and move on from it… But at this point we are in our mid-20s… you really should be past that phase by now.

Sometimes I wish I had been a douchebag in high school… I certainly wasn’t a square in high school, but I always tried to be kind…

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Dark triad traits. Let’s be completely honest… men are so pussy hungry we let women get away with awful behavior because we wanna fuck em. Some, too many really, are just too fucking dumb to learn the hard way.

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If I have it correct, there was a story on X about an unmarried guy who wore a wedding ring to get women, who wound up screwing a few on a college campus. They found out about each other and got mad at the guy, even though they were with a guy who presented as married. I’m not sure if it’s true, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were.

I’m not sure if it’s been done, but I’d get a kick out of a fake ankle-monitor experiment. :grinning_face:

Me too.

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Married men get approached more than single men. Women are ruthless lizard brained sluts for married men.

Ive been posted on that FB page a few times by perpetually single whores with huge body counts. Too ironic

Is that the ā€œAre we dating the same guy?ā€ page?

I was asked out by a coworker the week I got engaged.:smiley:

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https://cheezburger.com/3017733/guy-conducts-twisted-experiment-on-tinder-as-fake-child-rapist-and-gets-horrifying-results

This one blew my mind

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You’ve been posted?

You mean women have posted about you because they’re attracted to you?
Or they’ve complained about you?

In college I was propositioned quite a bit when I lived on campus… but I’m too picky so while I hooked up very, very occasionally I had to be attracted to the girl… like that was a pre requisite whereas I’ve been told many guys will sleep with women they aren’t attracted to.

That and often the girl propositioning me was drunk and I’ve heard way too many horror stories… even if I was also drunk by 2025 rules that often makes the guy a rapist

you have to do mandatory modules on consent (which fair enough… sort of….) The whole expecting to stop before a make out sesh and say ā€œdo I have your consent to touch boobā€, ā€œcsn I kiss you nowā€ etc is sort of ridiculous… I’ve legit had girls tell me they want a guy to aggressively take charge and asking is a turn off. Granted that’s not going to be all girls… but this expectation for sexual activity to be almost robotic to the point everyone asks for permission before kissing, groping and penetration is ludicrous

It should be as simple as ā€œlet’s fuckā€, ā€œokā€ DONE…

But these modules made it very clear if both parties are drunk the guy is still potentially a rapist… too many stories about a guy hooking uo witj a drunk girl at a party… oops she has a boyfriend and he is accused of rape

Court tosses it out but not before guy is kicked out of college and reputation ruined unless he leaves town.

Funnily enough if a girl rapes a man in Australia she can’t be charged with rape. Laws don’t include women when it comes to rape

There is a push to change this as some female sex offenders (esp those who molest students) have gotten very light sentences secondary to this technicality

Stop giving me ideas dammit!

What’s the ankle moniter for?

ā€œVehicular manslaughter. House arrest before my trial… looking at 5-10 yearsā€

Annnnnd it… is….. on….

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Yep…that one. Bitter skanks spreading lies. pathetic

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I’d get posted when some tramp asks for ā€œteaā€ā€¦ then strumpets I’d railed or girls it didn’t work out with start their smear campaign with zero evidence.

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Are you on the apps? Or do you meet women in the real world? My cousin got a ton of matches through tinder and also met some fucking crazy, crazy women through the apps… like more crazy than not crazy

Granted he was also nuts… he took me to hooters and got me a Long Island iced tea when I was 11 or 12. I didn’t know what that was but I knew what alcohol was based on the taste. He thought it was funny… it was not funny… maybe a little bit funny

But if I were a parent with a 11-12 year old I’d be furious

How tall are you?

I’m imagining you are something ridiculous like 6’5. You have 6’8 vibes….

7’4? 9’2…. 11’6

Not on apps… those things are nothing but increasingly delusional women, single moms, nut jobs, flakey af, etc… I don’t use anything. Sometimes FB.

I’m not tall. 5’ 08" but fighter’s build, lots of ink, confident.

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:face_vomiting: horrible.

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Woah we are almost identical in height

I thought I was 5’5

But it appears I’m taller than my father who is 5’7 so I took a tape measure, stood up as straight as I could and I’m 171cm, doctor measured me in the 170s as well. I’m actually not sure how that happened because at age 17 I was 5’5 and my epiphyseal plates in my wrists and feet had closed

Around 5’7.5

Huge respect for having 7’8 vibes. I’m extremely insecure about my height

I used to be huge into combat sports… at which point I no longer cared as I had confidence knowing I could handle myself following years of training (maybe 7-8 CUMULATIVE years but on and off for much of my life)

Now I’m at a point where I know I’ll never be able to box or wrestle ever again so the height thing bothers me a lot more than it used to

The average Caucasian Australian is quite a bit taller than the average American

5’9 in US vs 5’11 in Aus the average Australian is 5’9 but when the stats are broken down by age group 18-25 is 5’11. Being 10cm shorter than the average guy in my case is like half a head below the norm

Granted the average woman here is only like 5’5 and only 10% of girls my age are statistically taller than I am

Also I don’t see nearly as much of an emphasis on height mattering here like I saw in America

America was the only country where a girl legitimately turned me down over my height. We were going to hook up and she says ā€œwait, how tall are you?ā€ā€¦ I answer honestly and she says ā€œreally? I thought you were bigger than that! Sorry… that’s not good enough for meā€

Now she could have been giving me shit or testing me, and I’m sure had I responded confidently I could have sealed the deal but I was quite irritated with her response and lost interest immediately from such a retarded statement… you were interested before but some arbitrary number put you off because what? Can’t tell your friends you hooked up with a guy below a certain height? Get the fuck outta here!

Sampleship bias perhaps on Americans caring more but I’ve heard from many that Americans seem to care more about height than the rest of the world which is crazy considering only 15% of American men are 6’0 or taller

Compare that to Denmark, Norway, Netherlands etc where 50-70% of guys are 6’0 and up and they seem to care less about height… and going by my experience in the Netherlands this rang true

Carry yourself with confidence, amigo. You’re very intelligent, well written and seem like a good dude.

I have a ton of scars, tattoos and cauliflower ear. Seems to help.

Height isnt nearly the issue its made out to be by low iq THOTs and irrelevant ho’s.

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