Calvert and Milo Barbell

Yesterday. Axle doubles and triples with 70#. 20 reps total?

Today. Axle doubles and triples with 70#. 7 reps maybe before the workout?

Lifting

Same warmups.

Windmills with Toe-touch: 55# x 4 (per side)
Wide-grip Axle Curls: 70# x 8 - wraps on right wrist, no increase in reps
Leaning Side Press: 40# x 6 (per side)
Upper-back Meadows Rows: 30# x 18 (per side)
Palms-forward Alternating DB Press: 20# x 22
Backwards BB Raise: I forgot; I was playing with tricep cable stuff though
Jefferson Squat: 245# x 14 (7 each side)
3 Squat Variations: 45# x 20; 16, 4; 20 (60 total reps)
Shrugs: 72.5# x 29
Forward Bend: 88# x 14 - strapped
Straight-leg Situps: 31# x 9
H2H Swings: 45# x 14
Wrist Roller: 42.5# x 2 each way
Pullovers: 31# x 15

Notes:

  • sets of 20 is so much easier than sets of 40. I did feel the 5# increase in that second variation though.
  • I had some pulling to the left on my tailbone the last two days, when I bent over forwards, especially touching the left toe. Went away halfway through this.
  • shoulders felt pretty great this morning. Though the front rack with the axle is the most painful position, honestly. Feels like things are being pinched in the joint.
  • new form cues:
    • for shrugs: pull the head backward. Helps to get more trap fibers involved.
    • for presses: hollow the upper back. Helps to hold a better thoracic position. Kind of like chest up… but from the back side. What’s important is that I’m bending more there instead of my low back.

Updating this to reflect current reality, 15 days later:

New stuff:

  • pulling on left side at tailbone, especially when bending over, especially to the left side.
  • some pinching, soreness at upper shoulder joints, but only when pressing.
  • wrist pain, ulnar side of right wrist, only when curling. Sometimes feel a bit while turning the steering wheel.
  • upper biceps tendon pain, right side, only when curling.

Overall things are much better, especially outside of the gym. Whole left arm and shoulder feels very flexible and mobile. Right is good, but a bit tighter. Feels a bit rotated forward.

While I’m here, and on the note of corrective/rehab/pain stuff.

There was that article about Windmills by Chris Peil.

Now that I have some experience with it, I think they’re pretty incredible. I think a huge chunk of my shoulder issues have been improved by them.

I revisited the article, and looked at some of Chris Peil’s other articles. My impression was that he seems to know his stuff.

Then I looked him up elsewhere. I guess other people think he knows his stuff too.

He worked as a movement/mobility consultant to:

  • Eddie Hall
  • Zydrunas Savickas
  • Laurence Shahlaei
  • Luke Stoltman

@simo74 @creative_name

Thanks to peer pressure, I actually did some front squats. Worked up to a medium-ish 185.

This is, I think, literally the 5th front squat I’ve done in my life.

I also haven’t squatted anything heavier than 45 lbs in ~8 years. (Well, I guess my kids are about 75 combined. Besides that though.)

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Yesterday: Axle Press 70# x 2. Then upped to 75# and did several doubles through the day. Maybe 16-20 total reps.

Today. Two or three sets of Axle Press 75# x 2.

Same warmups.

Windmills with Toe-touch: 55# x 5 (per side)
Wide-grip Axle Curls: 70# x 8 - wraps on right wrist, no increase in reps
Leaning Side Press: 40# x 6 (per side)
Upper-back Meadows Rows: 30# x 20 (per side)
Palms-forward Alternating DB Press: 20# x 24
Jefferson Squat: 245# x 16 (8 each side)
[break for massage and food]
3 Squat Variations: 45# x 22; 22; 22 (66 total reps)
Shrugs: 72.5# x 30
Forward Bend: 88# x 16 - 7 DOH, then strapped
Straight-leg Situps: 31# x 10
H2H Swings: 45# x 16
Wrist Roller: 45# x 2 each way - quite hard
Backwards BB Raise: 31# x 10 - reverse grip
Pullovers: 31# x 16

Notes:

  • tried out a reverse grip for the backwards bb raise. This may hit the long head better.
  • pressing every day seems to be fine so far. Went up 5 pounds on that. Other presses went fine too.
  • I probably could have squeezed out a 9th rep in the curls (as prescribed), but I thought I was only doing 8 for the day. I track my workout in two places right now and they weren’t in sync.
  • attempting DOH for the forward bends/jefferson curls was a bad idea. Affected grip for swings and wrist roller.

I’m mentally trying to reverse engineer Easy Strength. It’s been surprisingly difficult to find good search terms to research “reps per week” in relation to strength gains. Seems like 9 (3x3) or 10 (2x5) reps per day per lift, done for 3 or 5 or 7 days a week depending on implementation. 27 to 70 reps a week, per lift.

If you’re pushing at the limit (not Dan’s recommendation) the 3s can go up to 90% and the 5s to 85%. Probably better stated as a high end of 80-90%, but done by the right principles, probably most are in the 60-70% range with 2x5 and maybe 65-75% with 3x3.

So I feel like I can summarize something by saying something like this: a good target for strength gains is around 45 reps of ~65%-70% a week. Sufficient strength stimulus while limiting systemic fatigue.

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Have you read the Easy Strength Omnibook? That would be a HUGE help here.

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I haven’t (yet). I’m just working from a few writeups like yours, and some threads (with Dan) on the davedraper site.

That’s reallg going to muddy things. Like what has happened to 5/3/1.

I can buy you a copy if you need. More people should buy Dan’s stuff. He gives so much

Is it better to start with the first Easy Strength book, or is it fine to just start there? (Budget’s not an issue, just wondering.)

Never read the first to be able to say. But the Omnibook is probably Dan’s best work period.

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@T3hPwnisher Bought the book. I’m sure my takeaways will be completely different than yours, but that’s what makes it fun.


My layered in work, the daily pressing.

75# axle presses: 3 triples, 5 doubles (19 reps) - spread throughout the day

And then I wanted to try out some delt workout I saw… and misremembered… from a Mike Israetel video.

Forehead face pulls: 3x12 with 10#, then 15#, then 20#
Lateral raises: 3x12 with 5# plates. Constant tension reps from 45 degrees down to 45 degrees up

I then re-skimmed that video and that was only a rough approximate of what he actually prescribed. Delt pump was interesting and different though.

Taking tomorrow off.


Reading through my old log is a headtrip.

As long as they are right, that’s all that matters :slight_smile:

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“45 reps per week at 65-70% intensity.” That’s a Pretty Solid nerd analysis of lifting weights dude!

Check out this post from legendary Power Lifting coach Boris Sheiko, where he recommends 30-55 lifts per week (depending on experience) at about 69% intensity.

"Previously it was mentioned that recommendations for monthly volume are the following:

Beginner = 700
Class 3 = 900
Classes 1 & 2 = 1000
CMS = 1100
MS = 1250
MSIC = 1700

Having seen these it is difficult to make an assessment of these recommendations without further explanation, such as:

  1. To what period of training do these recommendations apply: the base, competitive or the average of all periods?

  2. The number of training day these loads should be applied to is not specified. For example, in most cases the MSIC athletes in Russia train 4-5 times per week, MS train 4 times, Class 1 and CMS train 3-4+ times, and the others train 3 times. From this, it follows that the more training days, the easier it is to carry a greater load.

3 workouts in 1 week = 12 per month
4 workouts in 1 week = 16 per month
5 workouts in 1 week = 20 per month

  1. It is not known whether the number of lifts includes general developmental exercises, such as hyperextensions, reverse hypers, exercises for the abs, exercises for the pectorals, lats, arm muscles, or leg muscles. And what about incline bench presses, shoulder presses, dumbbell bench presses, etc.?

  2. We should also not forget that athletes in lighter weight classes can more easily handle larger loading than athletes in heavier weight categories. Therefore, the programs of athletes in lighter weight classes are planned with larger volumes than athletes in heavier weight categories.

  3. Similarly, it is much easier for juniors to handle larger loading than adults and the same relationship applies between adults and veterans.

Beginners (1st Month) - 3 training sessions per week.

In the first month I plan only one exercise with a barbell at a time to study the art (from three-competitive lifts). I usually use 5-6 lifts in 5 approaches. For example:

Day 1 - learning how to perform squats.
Day 3 - learning how to perform bench presses.
Day 5 - learning how to perform deadlifts.

Also planned alongside the barbell exercise are 3-4 exercises for the development of general athletic qualities such as power, speed-strength, endurance, and flexibility. Agility is also developed through participation in team sports (football, basketball, volleyball) once or twice per week.

The result is 350 - 450 competitive lifts and special preparatory exercises. Great attention is paid to general fitness.

Beginners (Months 2-4) – 3 training sessions per week.

Two barbell exercises are planned in this stage, one competitive exercise, and one specifically for securing technique. For example:

Day 1

  1. Squat
  2. Bench press w/board

Day 3

  1. Bench press
  2. Deadlift off boxes

Day 5

  1. Box squats
  2. Close grip bench press

The result is 450 - 550 competitive lifts and special preparatory exercises at low intensity in the range of 50-60%. The share of general physical exercises still constitute the majority of the volume.

Classes 2 & 3 - 3 training sessions per week.

The athletes continue pursing technique mastery. Special preparatory exercises are used not only to secure technique, but also to increase the strength qualities of lagging muscle groups. Loading is increased from 600 - 750 competitive lifts and special preparatory exercises. The intensity of loads rises to 60-65% in the preparatory periods. The share of general physical exercise is reduced slightly.

Class 1 and CMS - 3-4+ training sessions per week.

During training sessions the athletes work on improving the performance of equipment and the development of competitive exercise power qualities through special preparatory exercises. The number of lifts in competitive and special preparatory exercises for 16 workouts per month range from 800 - 1300. Intensity increases to 67-69% in the preparatory periods.

MS and MSIC (Elite)

There can be no recommended levels of stress. Here are some real examples of loading variations in this group of athletes:

Microcycle Load Distribution of a MS Lifter in the Preparatory Period

Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Total
Lifts 204 183 252 200 1237
Avg % 68.2% 69.7% 68.5% 68.8% 69.0%
Workouts 4 4 4 4 16

The next example is for Andrey Belyaev.

Microcycle Load Distribution of a MSIC Lifter in the Preparatory Period

Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Total
Lifts 365 341 385 326 1417
Avg % 68.0% 71.4% 73.7% 69.5% 70.7%
Workouts 8 8 8 8 32

The next example is for Alexey Sivokon.

Microcycle Load Distribution of a Honorary MSIC Lifter in the Preparatory Period

Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Total
Lifts 756 724 831 801 3112
Avg % 69.6% 72.5% 71.7% 60.5% 71.2%
Workouts 7 8 8 8 31

See the graphic for a summary. You will see the typical volume progression as well as examples of programs on this site. Notice that special cases such as juniors and lighter weight categories can tolerate above average volumes. Dear reader, please do not take the graph as dogma. It is based on averages and will not apply in every case."

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@FlatsFarmer

Wow, thanks for sharing that. I “knew of” Sheiko but never really looked into his stuff. (New rabbit holes to explore!) Feels a bit strange to find out I came to a very similar conclusion.

It is pretty funny reading both Sheiko and Dan John in the same day. Two very different approaches to end up at basically the same place.

(There’s some credit to Pavel in there too, who seems to bridge both approaches.)

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Overreaching a bit, maybe. Undersleeping, maybe. ( ← probably that)

General energy levels and focus at work hasn’t been great. Actually, that leftward pulling at my tailbone and related left hamstring, calf, QL tightness also a bit of a problem. Had a massage on Friday and I think I’m still recovering from that. It hit me hard.

Did 3 windmills on one side, didn’t like it, and will hold off the full workout until tomorrow.

Stuff I did do though.

Axle press from rack
75# 3x3
70# a few singles fiddling with grip width
80# at least six doubles. Probably will do a handful more today.

From my old training log, I was doing something around 120# Z presses, for sets of 5. It didn’t translate to improving my overhead. Too much backbend.

I knew the problem was “my core”. I thought some instability work (bottom-up squats, overhead lockouts, farmers walks) were the solution. It wasn’t bad stuff. I kind of enjoyed doing it.

(Also, on that note, I don’t know what anyone gets from short farmers walks with dumbbells except grip work. My heavy farmers walks were with 170# per side. That, at least, had an effect.)

Anyway, nowadays, I know what my problem was.

My abs were weak. My hip flexors were weak. My thoracic spine was locked up so only my lower back could bend.

Everything else was weak too, sure. But those were actually holding me back.

I also missed the memo about upper back training back then. I thought my mat pulls were enough. But if you look at the back like a T, I was building up the “|” (which was good) and not the “—” (which was bad). Hindsight.

It’s reassuring when the science guys and the folk-wisdom guys agree on stuff.

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2 months in review.

It’s now been 2 months since I restarted lifting (+ a few days).

I look better than I did last month, which was better than the month before.

Morning bodyweight was around 148 at the start of the month. It’s now consistently above 150. The actual slope of the line is 2.6 lbs/mo. Where I wanted it to be.

I ate consistently well, and where I didn’t, I had full control over that. However, I did have some illness, appetite, and mood things that affected food intake.

All of the important lifts went up.

Windmills: from 40# x 6 to 55# x 6
Jefferson Squat: 225# x 16 to 245# x 18
Forward Bend: 68# x 20 to 88# x 16

Everything is higher rep so it’s a bit difficult to compare. It was still a 20# increase for bilateral compounds and a 15# increase for unilateral compound.

I also added in more shoulder stuff, and renewed my long term goal of “get good at deadlifts and presses”.

The main mistake I made was #3 here with the daily pressing work I added in. It’s just too much right now. Maybe should just stick with 3x3 or 5x2 if I’m going to do it. 20+ reps a day is too much for me.

There’s kind of a 4th goal, which is “don’t make your body more painful”. Not quite the same as “don’t get injured” since it also includes “don’t aggravate existing injures”. I don’t feel worse now than I did at the beginning of the month, so, success?

Lifting.

We’re going on vacation soon, so I’m trying to finish a few things off at work before I go. Late night last night, tired today, and motivation still waning. (Undersleeping, overreaching)

Won’t have gym access for 10 days. May deliberately overreach on presses before I leave.

I’ve done half the workout. If I have time, I’ll do the rest later. If not, tomorrow.

Warmups with green band. Yellow band went missing. “It’s not a toy!”

Windmills with Toe-touch: 55# x 6 (per side)
Wide-grip Axle Curls: 70# x 7,2 - a clumsy 9 reps
Leaning Side Press: 45# x 3 (per side)
Upper-back Meadows Rows: 30# x 22 (per side)
Palms-forward Alternating DB Press: 24# x 12
Jefferson Squat: 245# x 18 (9 each side)

Notes:

  • messed up the first rep of the side press on both sides by not loading the lats well enough. Jerk, load the lats, then press. Those do make my shoulders feel kind of not-great during the reps, though fine after.
  • axle curls maybe got better? 9 reps as 7,2 is maybe better than a straight 8. Maybe.
  • left low back is doing its thing of bending during the high-rep alternating pressing. Right side is stable, left gives out. This was a thing from years ago and was especially notable with overhead lockouts, then. I think it may be related to something PRI works with.

Later that night.

Straight-leg Situps: 36# x 6

For having a goal that involves a 540 lb axle pull from 18", I’d never actually lifted an axle from 18". :person_shrugging: Since I’m leaving town tomorrow, today seemed like a good time to try that.

Figured out a setup with my rack. Mat on the bottom support bars, jack stands just to keep the mat from falling off.

Worked up to a single at 360. Failed to move 380 twice. Failed 370.

The most I pulled before was probably around 410 x 3 at that height (starting at 13") on a stiff barbell. (405 + 35 lb chains).

That height is interesting. Seems to be all back. Can’t figure out how to get my hamstrings into it… which means my SI joint feels fine right now. Tight left hamstring may be 90% of that problem.

@T3hPwnisher

I feel a little needy in asking. Given my first attempt with that axle pull, is there anything that stands out to you? Get bigger and stronger, sure. But in addition to that? Setup or execution or especially obvious-to-you weakness at some point of it.