[quote]Dolli123 wrote:
i will try 6 eggs in the morning
what should i have for post workout then ?
and i dont like beef and it is quite expensive so i will stick to chicken breast but i have that for dinner,what should i eat why you just help and tell me.[/quote]
What? Since when is ground beef more expensive than chicken breast? In my 27 years of life, I have never once seen chicken breast be cheaper than ground beef. [/quote]
My experience has been pretty much the exact opposite of yours.
Chicken breasts are $2/lb compared to ~$3/lb for 80% ground beef (~$3.80 for 97%), around these parts.
[quote]Dolli123 wrote:
i will try 6 eggs in the morning
what should i have for post workout then ?
and i dont like beef and it is quite expensive so i will stick to chicken breast but i have that for dinner,what should i eat why you just help and tell me.[/quote]
What? Since when is ground beef more expensive than chicken breast? In my 27 years of life, I have never once seen chicken breast be cheaper than ground beef. [/quote]
My experience has been pretty much the exact opposite of yours.
Chicken breasts are $2/lb compared to ~$3/lb for 80% ground beef (~$3.80 for 97%), around these parts.[/quote]
Wow what the hell? Chicken breast is around $SIX.FIFTY$ per pound here.
Dolli, are you a girl? Not trying to be presumptuous, but your diet, screen name, and weight would imply so. If you are, being a girl + being English are two automatic strikes against you, nutritionally.
You said the original diet added up to 3000 calories. It doesn’t look like 3000 calories, so I ask: where are you getting those numbers from?
How active are you during the day when you aren’t training. And how do you train?
There’s a fundamental calories in and calories out problem that needs to be answered.
im a boy,and i was looking at the back of the packs and using a calculator to add the calories up,i mostly only walk around the house,and i was doing full body workouts 3 times a week im trying to sort out my meals before i start.
[quote]Dolli123 wrote:
i will try 6 eggs in the morning
what should i have for post workout then ?
and i dont like beef and it is quite expensive so i will stick to chicken breast but i have that for dinner,what should i eat why you just help and tell me.[/quote]
What? Since when is ground beef more expensive than chicken breast? In my 27 years of life, I have never once seen chicken breast be cheaper than ground beef. [/quote]
My experience has been pretty much the exact opposite of yours.
Chicken breasts are $2/lb compared to ~$3/lb for 80% ground beef (~$3.80 for 97%), around these parts.[/quote]
Wow what the hell? Chicken breast is around $SIX.FIFTY$ per pound here.[/quote]
Now THAT’S pretty fucked. But, then again, eating chicken day in and day out ain’t much of a treat.
[quote]Dolli123 wrote:
im a boy,and i was looking at the back of the packs and using a calculator to add the calories up,i mostly only walk around the house,and i was doing full body workouts 3 times a week im trying to sort out my meals before i start.[/quote]
Well then, that would be your FIRST mistake. Get in the gym and learn as you go. I swear, there must be hundreds of people like you on this forum all “waiting until they get this or that sorted out” before they ever work hard in the gym.
You will NEVER have it ALL sorted out because the moment you do, you will have made enough progress that a change will need to be made to compensate.
This is why we are pointing out that you are making this too damn complicated. Eat until you no longer weigh 125lbs and keep doing that, while also lifting weights really hard, until you are no longer a bean pole.
You are a kid yet for some reason think all of these older and bigger guys around you don’t know what we are talking about. That makes ZERO sense.
You will NEVER have it ALL sorted out because the moment you do, you will have made enough progress that a change will need to be made to compensate.
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Dolli, reread this; it is more profound than you would think.
Personally, if I tried to ‘sort everything out’ before starting, I would never start since there ‘might be a better method’.
Please use some logic, if a bunch of big guys are giving you advice, take it and implement it. Eat, lift, sleep, repeat. Increase the first two parameters until you gain size.
[quote]Dolli123 wrote:
im a boy,and i was looking at the back of the packs and using a calculator to add the calories up,i mostly only walk around the house,and i was doing full body workouts 3 times a week im trying to sort out my meals before i start.[/quote]
If you can add the majority of your calories from packages you’re f#ed. eating at least 50% of your cals from foods that will spoil if you leave 'em out of the fridge for more than 4 days, like meat and veggies. Buy those. Eat lots of them, and use these tools:
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
If you can add the majority of your calories from packages you’re f#ed. eating at least 50% of your cals from foods that will spoil if you leave 'em out of the fridge for more than 4 days, like meat and veggies. Buy those. Eat lots of them, and use these tools:
This kid just needs to eat more at this point. Twinkies and PopTarts would probably help him at this point based off how little he’s currently eating. There’s no reason to make this any more complicated.
I’m not sure whether you do this intentionally, but you have a bad habit of over complicating things for newbies.
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
If you can add the majority of your calories from packages you’re f#ed. eating at least 50% of your cals from foods that will spoil if you leave 'em out of the fridge for more than 4 days, like meat and veggies. Buy those. Eat lots of them, and use these tools:
This kid just needs to eat more at this point. Twinkies and PopTarts would probably help him at this point based off how little he’s currently eating. There’s no reason to make this any more complicated.
I’m not sure whether you do this intentionally, but you have a bad habit of over complicating things for newbies.[/quote]
OP - My appologies
HK - You’re right. That’s my bad. I need to recognize this as being a fault of mine. I personally like things complicated, because I like things optimal and scientific. Yada yada yada. Results are certainly to be obtained from just learning how to eat a lot.
OP For now, forget about tracking calories and the scale and all that, but the rest of my post stands. Anyways, you want simple and guaranteed success? Try the GOMAD (gallon of milk a day) diet. Seriously. Combine that with the a pound of ground beef a day. Something like this. Add poptarts (and some of the milk) post workout. Drink some of the milk before too if you want. Get a gatoraid for during the workout if you want. Eat some grilled cheeses and PB&Js. There really is nothing wrong with this is you want to gain mass. It will work. Tweak it as you will, but following this will put mass on you if you lift heavy 4-5 times a week.
[quote]Dolli123 wrote:
tell me what is wrong with the breakfast [/quote]
It is little.
An example of my breakfast when I was working to break the 200 lbs barrier:
6 eggs scrambled up, with: bacon, sausage, ham, cheese, and ground beef mixed in (somewhere around 1000-1200 cals right there), then afterwards 2 cups of yogurt with blueberries mixed in. Does that give you an idea of what’s wrong with yours?
Throw excuses out the window and just f#ing do it. Learn recipes that work and find solutions as you go, not before you go. Otherwise you’ll never go anywhere.
My breakfast this morning was kinda to hungry4mores typical mass brkfst:
Started off with 6 eggs fried in butter (about a quarter stick – none of this little pat of butter or pam spray BS) with 10 or so baby bella mushrooms thrown in that I sliced up. To this I added about 3/4 cup shredded cheese blend. And this was a rushed bulking breakfast. Normally I would have thrown in some more chopped veggies or something. This was a good start though calorie wise. An hour later, a shit ton of chocolate (not typical for me, nor healthy because it was the sugary kind, but it works oatmeal would have been a much better choice, or even granola bars, or just more almonds, and or a banana or something), and 30 or so almonds, as well as 2 mozzarella string cheeses. Then I also had about 6 oz berries in 1.5 cups of greek yogurt with splenda. This was just breakfast and early mid-morning snack. Oh, wait, and I had 2 medium sized cupcakes too that were leftover from a work part last friday (but I was still on the cut at the time so I ate them now to compensate and make myself “whole” today)…
A simple solution that really I find helps with bulking, is to stash food where you need to. Get some protein or energy bars and stick em in your desk, bag, both or what have you. Keep an assortment of nuts there too. Don’t worry which bars or which nuts. For now, just get a jar/bag of nuts and a box of generic energy/protein bars. Choke em down if they suck, and get a different brand next time. Also get a shaker bottle, a spare one. Keep a clean shaker, bottle of water, with 2 scoops of protein in it and 2 Tbs ground flax in your trunk (backpack, gym bag, all of the above, or wherever) and use it in a pinch (of course you wait to put the water in) – then be sure to use it at least weekly so it doesn’t go bad. You can even keep a bag of mixed nuts, a protein bar, dried fruit, etc. all in separate bags and toss them all into the shaker bottle, for an easy portable emergency meal solution. Throw in your bag/trunk/both some pop top packaged tuna and mayo packs and some napkins maybe, etc etc. Shit you could even put mayo packs into your protein shake. Point is there is no excuse to not being able to put down massive amounts of cals. You gotta just F#ing do it. Get big before you worry about getting too big or too unhealthy. Try it for a few months. It won’t kill you to accomplish something.
OP…simply take what you eat, times it by 3, and that’s your starting point. You like chicken? Add a whole avocado each time you eat it, and thats an extra 400 cal. Add a spoon of olive oil to 3 meals, doesnt matter which ones. Pretty simple eh?