Calling Out the <25 Age Crowd

Training Bodybuilding
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I’ll play

Age: 16
Height: 5’10"
Weight: 170 lbs
BF%: idk, too high
Level: Beginner
Training for: Hockey and track(thrower). But mostly to be a big strong mother fucker.

Workout stats:
Bench: 185
Squat: 315 (have not maxed in a month)
Deadlift: 335 (have not maxed in a month)

Goals:
ST: (This summer) 365 squat, 400 deadlift and to add size too forearms/arms.
LT: (By end of junior year) 200+ Bench, 400+ squat, 500 deadlift; 200 lbs
LLT: (College) 500+ squat, 600+ dead , 225+ lbs, throw shot 40ft, disc 120ft and compete in PL, strong man.

I had surgery on my labrum to fix an “impresive” tear and remove bone spurs on december 16th. Just finished rehab and started to do shoulders and arms again last week, Still cant BB bench.

I am currently doing.
M:Back/Biceps
T:chest/Triceps
W:“Core”
T:Shoulders/traps
F:Legs/Biceps
S:off
S:off

Train every thing heavy with lots of volume. No pussy footing around.

Call out sept. 1st

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Age 18, 180lbs., 5-10, probably between 8-10% BF (I have no idea), been lifting seriously for exactly 6 months. The first 6 months I was here I was a vegetarian triathlete and fell into the TBT “functionality” trap. Eventually, my vision cleared. I’ve put on about 30 lbs. since then using a BP split. Oh, and I love my steak, gotta have at least a half pound a day.

I have no idea what my BB bench is, I haven’t benched since March. I DB bench 90lbs per hand for about 8 reps though… Squat is sitting at about 265 for 8. Haven’t deadlifted in a long while either. Last time I did I was doing 375 for 5.
3-6 months from now I would like to have broken the 200lb BW mark. I would like to be squatting 315+ for reps. Maybe I’ll try for a bench max, something like 250. 2-3 years from now, I have no idea since I haven’t been in this very long. I don’t have much of a reference point.

I don’t see much point in making a training log, my trusty notebook does a good job and I can bring it with me to the gym.
I will, however, repost here in September (if I remember).
Good luck all, train hard.

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know the best damn motivation?

Meeting Pro’s in real life.

When I saw Kai Greene and shook hands with him I was like DAYUM HOW DOES SOMEONE GET SO DAMN BIG?

I felt inspired to get super swole from that day on.

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This shows your specific inability to comprehend what you read. I stated: “In general, though, the younger generations are physically inferior.”

You do not cite specific examples as a way to establish that a general rule doesn’t apply. Indeed, every general rule will have exceptions.

In general, college kids are weak. They are weaker than previous generations of college kids.

It has almost always been the case that people declined in their late 20s to early 30s. So pointing to “old guys” who suck doesn’t establish anything contrary to my initial point.

It has not always been the case that college kids started their decline in college. In fact, college used to be the height of vigor and virility for the American male.

Yet now college kids look like dopes; aren’t in shape; and are generally inferior to previous generations of college kids.

It’s a shame. You kids are squandering your youth.

Money is easy to come by. Anyone can get it. If you lose it, get more.

The same cannot be said of your youth.

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
jb99 wrote: Like LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Rafa Nadal, Dwayne Wade, I won’t even get started on some of the young football players. I’ve yet to see a better athlete than LeBron James, and that includes any generation…

This shows your specific inability to comprehend what you read. I stated: “In general, though, the younger generations are physically inferior.”

You do not cite specific examples as a way to establish that a general rule doesn’t apply. Indeed, every general rule will have exceptions.

In general, college kids are weak. They are weaker than previous generations of college kids.

It has almost always been the case that people declined in their late 20s to early 30s. So pointing to “old guys” who suck doesn’t establish anything contrary to my initial point.

It has not always been the case that college kids started their decline in college. In fact, college used to be the height of vigor and virility for the American male.

Yet now college kids look like dopes; aren’t in shape; and are generally inferior to previous generations of college kids.

It’s a shame. You kids are squandering your youth.

Money is easy to come by. Anyone can get it. If you lose it, get more.

The same cannot be said of your youth.[/quote]

This shows your inability to complete a persuasive argument. You say “in general college kids are weak”. Fascinating statement there and I am anxiously awaiting your data on how you came to this conclusion. Then you say they “are weaker than previous generations of college kids”. Another mind-blowing statistic that you somehow conjured up. I sure do wish I knew how you compiled lifting and strength statistics of college students from generation to generation to match them up?!?? So now please explain to me how you formed this “general rule” that you speak of. Maybe it’s your personal observations? Wouldn’t that be a highly sophisticated way to make generalizations!

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[quote]Fishsticks wrote:
I’m just getting more and more motivated by every day. On the last day the gym is open before new years, I’m going to rip those fucking 440lbs off the ground like it was air.

Haha seriously though, is there any chance for me pulling this off (literally :D)? Adding about 100lbs to my deadlift in pretty accurately 6 months. That’s almost 20lbs every month. I’ve had awesome progress lately in the deadlift, but I’m fearing it’s just newbie gains, I will keep at it as far as possible no matter what though.[/quote]

I started lifting when I was 16

I couldn’t pick up 60kg [132lbs] then, not even for a single

340lbs to 440lbs for a single in 6 months for a single is reasonable [I’ve done it]

however the journey from 440 to 500lbs for me took an age [close to a year]

keep at it and smash out the squats too

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I think a lot of college age guys that ARE somewhat big or trying to get huge are so freaking busy they don’t really post. If you’re college age and have time to sit here and post regularly you probably don’t have the motivation and effort put forth in the gym to get big, so you use the “I don’t want to get huge” as an excuse to slack off in the gym. Most college age people are working, going to school, homework, trying to hold a decent love life, and still hit the gym. What subject do you think suffers first? Not that the rest of people who post here regularly aren’t busy, but when your career is set, you’re married, and don’t need to study something 3 hours a day you have more time to enjoy message boards and post rather then lurk. Just my 2 cents.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I do agree with this mind set. It matters little what people PLAN to do. What matters is what you actually did. It is really easy for everyone to say they will make significant progress…however, when it comes down to it, the number of adults on this forum who have gained more than 50lbs of lean body mass after they quit growing in height is probably less than 6-10 (I hope I’m wrong).

It would be ideal if this forum was filled with people outdoing “average”. That would make this the coolest place to participate. But as it stands, things aren’t that way.

Everyone can make a “before” post. It takes balls to have an “after” thread where people’s responses include expletives and accusations of being a science experiment.
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As always, you’re right on the spot Professor. That would be damn awesome to see people who have gained those 50 lbs of lean body mass AFTER puberty, hs, or even college.

I’m pretty sure someone who’s gained an impressive amount of size can appreciate it more (i.e. Prof) because that person knows what it takes.

It’s like when I actually see someone who does squats or deads properly (hell someone who just lifts heavy and busts their butt) I usually throw out a word of encouragement after my workout. Same goes for seeing someone walking around at over (!!!) 200 lbs.

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
It’s not just a bodybuilding thing.

At the MMA/BJJ gyms I train at, college kids come in all the time. I school them with not just technique, but strength and fitness. I am in my early 30s.

It used to be that “college kid” meant something. Talk to some old-timers in the gym. Guys who are 40 or so will say, “Man, when I was your age college kids would come in and just tear shit up. It took all of my wits to keep up with them” The college kids had less technique, but lots of energy and aggression.

I don’t see that much, anymore. It’s a detained group of people.

I don’t know if it’s the Nintendo generation, estrogen in the water, or what.

I even know that the Army has had to change Basic Training. The new recruit comes in so detained that they get stress fractures. Their little bones can’t even handle a road march. So Army training is much less demanding in years past. This, even though we are in a “war.”

I am not insulting everyone who is college aged. A generalization doesn’t mean it applies to everyone. If all of you posting are exceptions to the rule, that’s incredible. May you lead the next physical revolution.

In general, though, the younger generations are physically inferior.[/quote]

I’m in college and I really can’t disagree with one word of that. Most guys (and people) are such wimps now a days. They don’t what it is to actually push yourself and stop imposing your own limits. I think the gym is a great place to learn how to push yourself physically and that can (and should) translate to other aspects of life. That tough class, that new job, that hot brunette, that big job you’ve got to do…get some damn confidence, stop being afraid of failure, put yourself out there and go for it.

I will say it’s like a double edged sword though. IMO, It’s way easier to stand out with the younger crowd the way it is. No work ethic, no goals, no accomplishments, no job, it’s almost too easy…but hey I’m not complaining, just getting back to work.

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My training log

Im 15 years old and Disagree completely with younger ages being inferior . The smart younger ages dont post so often and boast stats . I ve only came on this site for a main reason which was the articles were so intresting and much better than bodybuilding.com . I rarely post here but I visit the site more than once a day to check for new articles! I’ve followed the threat starters advice and made a training log and the link is above GOODLUCK TOO EVERYONE

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[quote]Krish wrote:

My training log

Im 15 years old and Disagree completely with younger ages being inferior . The smart younger ages dont post so often and boast stats . I ve only came on this site for a main reason which was the articles were so intresting and much better than bodybuilding.com . I rarely post here but I visit the site more than once a day to check for new articles! I’ve followed the threat starters advice and made a training log and the link is above GOODLUCK TOO EVERYONE [/quote]

while you personally may be awesome. i agree that our generation generally blows the cock

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I’m 22, no log as such but I don’t see the point really. If you are doing this so you don’t look silly on your “workout blog” then I don’t think you will go too far.

I would like to extend the point Cali made. Our generation surely sucks but I think more accurately the general population suck, regardless of age.

People who suck in the gym can be dedicated in other areas of life, which is to be commended. However, we are not interested in them seeing as this is a BODYBUILDING FORUM.

I have also noticed that people who truely succeed in the gym tend to do very well in life in general.

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[quote]Dave_ wrote:

I have also noticed that people who truely succeed in the gym tend to do very well in life in general.

[/quote]

Yeah, I’ve noticed that alot of the vets here, are often well educated.
(I know that some people measure “Success” by education and some don’t but my observation is still true)

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[quote]Dave_ wrote:

I have also noticed that people who truely succeed in the gym tend to do very well in life in general.

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or are locked up for 25 to life…

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Dave_ wrote:

I have also noticed that people who truely succeed in the gym tend to do very well in life in general.

or are locked up for 25 to life…[/quote]

Again, we all measure success differently. I mean, prison time is: Free food, housing and gym membership… I bet some people like that.

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[quote]DouglasJ16 wrote:

I will say it’s like a double edged sword though. IMO, It’s way easier to stand out with the younger crowd the way it is. No work ethic, no goals, no accomplishments, no job, it’s almost too easy…but hey I’m not complaining, just getting back to work.[/quote]

The hardest part is finding like minded individuals to help you find your way!

“Everyone wants to be a ______ but nobody wants to do no hard ass shit!”

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Dave_ wrote:

I have also noticed that people who truely succeed in the gym tend to do very well in life in general.

or are locked up for 25 to life…[/quote]

But god damn it, they didn’t do it half assed!

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Krish wrote:

My training log

Im 15 years old and Disagree completely with younger ages being inferior . The smart younger ages dont post so often and boast stats . I ve only came on this site for a main reason which was the articles were so intresting and much better than bodybuilding.com . I rarely post here but I visit the site more than once a day to check for new articles! I’ve followed the threat starters advice and made a training log and the link is above GOODLUCK TOO EVERYONE

while you personally may be awesome. i agree that our generation generally blows the cock[/quote]

Agreed, it’s mostly people around our age that sport the Abercrombie look. Shame!

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Hopefully i can help for team young guys. Since the bashing has gone further then just bodybuilding goals, I would also like to say that I’m halfway through a degree in robotics engineering.

I started out at 155 lbs, currently 193

Age: 19
Height: 5’10"
Weight: 192lbs
BF%: 11-12%
Level: Intermediate (2.5 yrs training)

I made my gains by finding Rippetoes Starting Strength FAQ online and following it to the letter

Workout stats: Last tested 1RMs (few months ago)
Bench: 265 - 2 singles
Squat: 385x1
Deadlift: 435x1

Goals:
ST: 3/4/5 plate lifts - bw to 210
LT:

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Dave_ wrote:

I have also noticed that people who truely succeed in the gym tend to do very well in life in general.

or are locked up for 25 to life…[/quote]

Plenty of MMMs.