Has anyone taken a caffeine based fat loss supplement with creatine?
shouldn’t be a problem but space them out. Caffeine can affect insulin sensitivity and the absorption of whatever nutrient you are trying to shuttle into the muscle. How much exactly caffeine will affect this i’m not sure, but i’ve heard a number of times that caffeine based pre-workout stimulants can affect nutrient/glucose absorption by the muscles. HOT-ROX first thing in the morning probably won’t affect a mid-morning post-workout drink toooooo much.
I was also intserested in this topic. To be more specific: HOT-ROX Extreme + creatine mono. I’m sure it’s OK to use them both but what would be OPTIMAL…
Great thanks. I am taking them both together. The first two days i took them close together, and got a migraine. Today i spaced them out and it seemed to work.
Yes, I am currently. I don’t think it should be a problem just make sure to drink lots of water.
[quote]Breakzilla wrote:
I was also intserested in this topic. To be more specific: HOT-ROX Extreme + creatine mono. I’m sure it’s OK to use them both but what would be OPTIMAL…[/quote]
From my own experience thus far, just make sure to really space them out. And definitely drink ALOT of water like jlats said, but not too much. Personally I haven’t been able to sleep for more then two hours continually, I have to keep waking up to go to the bathroom… lol. Today I am going to take out the creatine and see how I feel.
Some of the research on creatine had users mixing it with tea, and they still got the same results, so it’s largely a myth that caffeine somehow negates the benefit of creatine.
This nonsense probably got started because caffeine has a slight diuretic effect and higher water intake is encouraged with creatine use.
Just drink enough water and you’ll be fine.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
Some of the research on creatine had users mixing it with tea, and they still got the same results, so it’s largely a myth that caffeine somehow negates the benefit of creatine.
This nonsense probably got started because caffeine has a slight diuretic effect and higher water intake is encouraged with creatine use.
Just drink enough water and you’ll be fine.[/quote]
Thanks so much!
This study says caffeine completely eliminates the benefit of creatine.
Thanks atypicaluser, were you able to read the full article?
No, but here’s a discussion of the study:
“They anticipated that caffeine would lend a helping hand to creatine. They were surprised and disappointed to find the opposite - caffeine actually counteracted creatine’s positive effects!”
[quote]atypicaluser wrote:
This study says caffeine completely eliminates the benefit of creatine.
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Unfortunately, this hasn’t been confirmed by any other studies. In fact, there are multiple studies showing that caffeine does not alter the effects from creatine.
This illustrates why it’s best to look at the body of research on a topic, rather then any one study.
You can find plenty of studies that appear to show some pretty outlandish things.
www.creatinemonohydrate.net/creatine_newsletter_19.html#Featured
How about that? A couple more sources.
[quote]atypicaluser wrote:
This study says caffeine completely eliminates the benefit of creatine.
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It was only based on nine subjects, so caution advised!
They also only tested it during the loading phase, and i think those articles are about the same study. As of right now, i stopped taking the caffeine supplement, it was making me dizzy, giving me headaches and keeping me up all night, so just creatine for me for now.
Well, creatine is very cheap and your body will excrete what it doesn’t need anyway with no ill effects. So if you are worried about it, take another dose at a time when you have not consumed caffeine. I usually take more than 5g a day. On training days, I take it pre and post-workout. And often both on training and non-training days, a dose in the evenings with BCAAs in between a meal.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Well, creatine is very cheap and your body will excrete what it doesn’t need anyway with no ill effects. So if you are worried about it, take another dose at a time when you have not consumed caffeine. I usually take more than 5g a day. On training days, I take it pre and post-workout. And often both on training and non-training days, a dose in the evenings with BCAAs in between a meal.[/quote]
So far I have been taking it for a month, did a one week loading with 20 g a day, now take 5-10 g a day, along with BCAAs, I think it was just the other supplement I was having problems with. Didn’t take it yesterday, felt much better, had a great workout.