I am considering adding tren to my never-ending test cycle (basically, a very, very aggresive TRT dose, like 250E3D Cyp for the last many years) because, well, I want to be a monster and my girlfriend concurs. (Ancillaries are 150-200 E4D HCG, depending on how the boys feel and low dose adex E4D.)
Sex is a very important part of my life and relationship with my girlfriend. She’s a 2-a-dayer, 3-4 on weekends, can’t sleep without an orgasm girl. She’s cool with steroids, provided they don’t fuck up our sex life.
Hence, a bit spooked by tren.
I have a buddy who swears by low dose Dostinex (Cabergoline) as the solution.
In fact, he uses Dostinex all the time coupled with Cialis, because he’s worse of a sex fiend than I am. Says the results are like having an erection for the first time, everytime.
His girlfriend loves it too, as it (allegedly) lets her have mutiples.
Bit spooked about Dostinex, and am curious about side effects of medium term (like a Tren cycle long) and long term usage. Recommended dosages besides what the “bro” tells me, etc.*
THanks!
I like the guy, but he is a living chemical experiment who will put anything into his body at any time. Large Brow Ridge Guy.
THETHIRDRUFFIAN: Thank’s for your insight.Bro i went to an endrocrinologist on friday and he was fine with me takeing Delatestryl T-enanthate @2.5 c,c,"s every 14-day’s But he didn’t condone longterm arimedex? One concern and I believe this to be legitamate. Im 53 and he said a little extra estrogen would be helpful for my bone health I.e. osteoprosis? I asked him.Dr. won’t to T,turn into estriol?estrogen etc.I also asked at WHAT Dose.He said there is no accurate answer,as some people can get gyno without even being on steroids.He said obesity and steroids is a design for Side affects.My endo did approve of Clomid.He was negative trowards novadex,actually didnt condone its use.I also asked about Hcg.He said it was too $$expensive and only an option for use in fertilty.Thanks johnny
[quote]johnny k53 wrote:
THETHIRDRUFFIAN: Thank’s for your insight.Bro i went to an endrocrinologist on friday and he was fine with me takeing Delatestryl T-enanthate @2.5 c,c,"s every 14-day’s But he didn’t condone longterm arimedex? One concern and I believe this to be legitamate. Im 53 and he said a little extra estrogen would be helpful for my bone health I.e. osteoprosis? I asked him.Dr. won’t to T,turn into estriol?estrogen etc.I also asked at WHAT Dose.He said there is no accurate answer,as some people can get gyno without even being on steroids.He said obesity and steroids is a design for Side affects.My endo did approve of Clomid.He was negative trowards novadex,actually didnt condone its use.I also asked about Hcg.He said it was too $$expensive and only an option for use in fertilty.Thanks johnny[/quote]
Time to get grandpa johnny back to the nursing home…
OP: Curious how long you have been at 500+ mg week of test, and what your experience has been at that dose. Pretty sustained muscle growth or did you gain quickly and level off afterwards? Any side effects of note?
[quote]johnny k53 wrote:
THETHIRDRUFFIAN: Thank’s for your insight.Bro i went to an endrocrinologist on friday and he was fine with me takeing Delatestryl T-enanthate @2.5 c,c,"s every 14-day’s But he didn’t condone longterm arimedex? One concern and I believe this to be legitamate. Im 53 and he said a little extra estrogen would be helpful for my bone health I.e. osteoprosis? I asked him.Dr. won’t to T,turn into estriol?estrogen etc.I also asked at WHAT Dose.He said there is no accurate answer,as some people can get gyno without even being on steroids.He said obesity and steroids is a design for Side affects.My endo did approve of Clomid.He was negative trowards novadex,actually didnt condone its use.I also asked about Hcg.He said it was too $$expensive and only an option for use in fertilty.Thanks johnny[/quote]
Time to get grandpa johnny back to the nursing home…
OP: Curious how long you have been at 500+ mg week of test, and what your experience has been at that dose. Pretty sustained muscle growth or did you gain quickly and level off afterwards? Any side effects of note?
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Yo Knuckle-Head.Read the M-f’in 411.I said 500mg’s every 14-day’s Mr.Balla why all the negative feedback,moreover im not some frail old man.Im 6-2 250 and still can train with 315 for set’s of 6-12 on bench.Also ive work in a correctional institution and am invilved in altercation’s with younger men,like YOU,and kick their Ass!!!I can’t understand your lack of ability to do anything without drug’s.What’s with that Mr.Balla.By the way,at the nurseing home we would like you to come and explain and give-us an exhibition.Also i was 3rd in the jr. Mr.Canada in 1978 and 2x heavyweight Mr South coast.Mr.Balla please tell us what competition’s you competed in and why you even take steroid’s.bye for now Little Balla!!!
[quote]johnny k53 wrote:
THETHIRDRUFFIAN: Thank’s for your insight.Bro i went to an endrocrinologist on friday and he was fine with me takeing Delatestryl T-enanthate @2.5 c,c,"s every 14-day’s But he didn’t condone longterm arimedex? One concern and I believe this to be legitamate. Im 53 and he said a little extra estrogen would be helpful for my bone health I.e. osteoprosis? I asked him.Dr. won’t to T,turn into estriol?estrogen etc.I also asked at WHAT Dose.He said there is no accurate answer,as some people can get gyno without even being on steroids.He said obesity and steroids is a design for Side affects.My endo did approve of Clomid.He was negative trowards novadex,actually didnt condone its use.I also asked about Hcg.He said it was too $$expensive and only an option for use in fertilty.Thanks johnny[/quote]
Time to get grandpa johnny back to the nursing home…
OP: Curious how long you have been at 500+ mg week of test, and what your experience has been at that dose. Pretty sustained muscle growth or did you gain quickly and level off afterwards? Any side effects of note?
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Too Mr,Balla,is that philipino? I have a dr. named Balla.The difference is maturity!!!I assume you are a young-man.Son you don’t have to be alway’s disrespectful.I welcome any disagreement on theory of steroid use,but let’s be gentlemen and not attack each other personally.Life my friend has a way of coming around.It’s called karma?Regarding my use of testosterone.I can take legally Dr.Rx up to 500mg’s every 2-week’s that’s really high in a rx world.The next is Arimedex.I personally never had a problem with gynocomastia.I used large doses from 18-25 and in the era there was no Anti-estrogen aromatization drug’s.The majority of people that competed never developed gyno.I am sorry that,that has changed.I believe it’s a result of how pharmacologically advanced aas and peptide’s have come.The real deal my friend is not to Look for Immediate gratification.Be patient,pay your due’s.Mr balla there are no short cut’s in quality bodybuilding and living a quality life.I welcome a reply in a mature,and i know your not stupid,your just a young Smart-ass. I was one in my day!!! seeya Mr.Balla
[quote]johnny k53 wrote:
THETHIRDRUFFIAN: Thank’s for your insight.Bro i went to an endrocrinologist on friday and he was fine with me takeing Delatestryl T-enanthate @2.5 c,c,"s every 14-day’s But he didn’t condone longterm arimedex? One concern and I believe this to be legitamate. Im 53 and he said a little extra estrogen would be helpful for my bone health I.e. osteoprosis? I asked him.Dr. won’t to T,turn into estriol?estrogen etc.I also asked at WHAT Dose.He said there is no accurate answer,as some people can get gyno without even being on steroids.He said obesity and steroids is a design for Side affects.My endo did approve of Clomid.He was negative trowards novadex,actually didnt condone its use.I also asked about Hcg.He said it was too $$expensive and only an option for use in fertilty.Thanks johnny[/quote]
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
OP: Curious how long you have been at 500+ mg week of test, and what your experience has been at that dose. Pretty sustained muscle growth or did you gain quickly and level off afterwards? Any side effects of note?
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About a year. It was 200 E3D, but then I upped it.
I do have high RBC, but I donate double RBC every 2 months. I get insomnia on the day of the shot, but that’s about it. I have gained a fair amount, and am still steadily gaining, but I am very, very tall (just shy of 7 feet), so I am fighting being a bean pole by genetics.
Heart and all check out fine. Have to get top-down physicals for key-man life insurance for the company I own every year and then Tri-Care (military) does one because I am a vet and discharged after injury (got shot/burned).
Wish I had PMs. I saw Cortez (?) post about Cabergoline abd would love his insight.
Try it and see? Some guys have sexual issues on it, other guys are a machine with it. Coupled with your “TRT” dose you will probably see results with as little as 350 mg/week. Have some caber on hand in case shit. And if you start having too bad of side effects, just stop taking it.
[quote]johnny k53 wrote:
THETHIRDRUFFIAN: Thank’s for your insight.Bro i went to an endrocrinologist on friday and he was fine with me takeing Delatestryl T-enanthate @2.5 c,c,"s every 14-day’s But he didn’t condone longterm arimedex? One concern and I believe this to be legitamate. Im 53 and he said a little extra estrogen would be helpful for my bone health I.e. osteoprosis? I asked him.Dr. won’t to T,turn into estriol?estrogen etc.I also asked at WHAT Dose.He said there is no accurate answer,as some people can get gyno without even being on steroids.He said obesity and steroids is a design for Side affects.My endo did approve of Clomid.He was negative trowards novadex,actually didnt condone its use.I also asked about Hcg.He said it was too $$expensive and only an option for use in fertilty.Thanks johnny[/quote]
Time to get grandpa johnny back to the nursing home…
OP: Curious how long you have been at 500+ mg week of test, and what your experience has been at that dose. Pretty sustained muscle growth or did you gain quickly and level off afterwards? Any side effects of note?
[/quote]
Yo Knuckle-Head.Read the M-f’in 411.I said 500mg’s every 14-day’s Mr.Balla why all the negative feedback,moreover im not some frail old man.Im 6-2 250 and still can train with 315 for set’s of 6-12 on bench.Also ive work in a correctional institution and am invilved in altercation’s with younger men,like YOU,and kick their Ass!!!I can’t understand your lack of ability to do anything without drug’s.What’s with that Mr.Balla.By the way,at the nurseing home we would like you to come and explain and give-us an exhibition.Also i was 3rd in the jr. Mr.Canada in 1978 and 2x heavyweight Mr South coast.Mr.Balla please tell us what competition’s you competed in and why you even take steroid’s.bye for now Little Balla!!![/quote]
^this…one of the best conversations ive seen on here, I had a hearty LOL. As far as the caber ive never taken it, although im gonna have to pick some up in march so let us know how it goes.
I was after the effects of Caber and PEA, it was described somewhat here and on Erowid as an energy stimulant with some euphoric effects, some said (on erowid) that it was similar to MDMA. For me, it wasn’t, and really wasn’t a pleasant thing at all. It felt more like taking too much adderall with a pot of coffee.
I also read that one of the side effects of caber can make men multi orgasmic. The reasoning is that caber lowers proalactin so much that you don’t have the refractory period. I found that not to be true or pleasant. The Caber I used was from ADC so I believe it to be legit.
All in all, the effects weren’t great, although, I was not using any AAS that would require it.
YMMV
Good Luck.
[quote]PKNY wrote:
FWIW, I tried Caber after reading this thread
I was after the effects of Caber and PEA, it was described somewhat here and on Erowid as an energy stimulant with some euphoric effects, some said (on erowid) that it was similar to MDMA. For me, it wasn’t, and really wasn’t a pleasant thing at all. It felt more like taking too much adderall with a pot of coffee.
I also read that one of the side effects of caber can make men multi orgasmic. The reasoning is that caber lowers proalactin so much that you don’t have the refractory period. I found that not to be true or pleasant. The Caber I used was from ADC so I believe it to be legit.
All in all, the effects weren’t great, although, I was not using any AAS that would require it.
YMMV
Good Luck.[/quote]
What was your dosage? It seems that .5mg EW is all that is needed for pro-sexual effects.
I cannot find the thread, but I read one here that BBB was talking about men’s multi O with it, and I think he said to take 1mg…not 100% on that though.
The pills are tiny and are 1mg. After I cut it in half, and took the first part an hour passed and I didn’t feel any different. Dopey me thought, shit, take the other half. WRONG.
I got this dizzy doped out feeling, lasted in various ways for a day or so. It was bad enough that I decided to
just keep the pills around in case I wanted to use Tren one day, but the experimental drug enhancement part
is over with that shit. So, ya…in hindsight I am pretty sure it was just me being a dumbass with the dosage.
If you are gonna do it, I’d start with the smallest dose possible and work your way up.