Bushidobadboy: HGH Help

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BBB,
i have read through countless pages of forums, including nearly one hundred pages specifically on he “find posts” link in your account, but I have failed to find advice directed at my goals. You are highly educated not only in P.E.D’s. but Sports Performance in general, and I feel you can help me more with a more credible opinion than anyone…

First off, Some background info on myself

I am 18 years old, 6’3, 207 pounds as of yesterday, and am an elite athlete, or more specifically, basketball player. I’m looking into using HGH for several reasons, primarily to grow taller, but also for the speeded recovery benefits, as well as the more conventional benefits. I have an unlimited supply, so getting whatever amounts necessary will not be a problem.

I have quite a few questions…

What would be your suggestions on dosage amounts, and scheduling?
i have read through the “HGH Experiment” thread, but I’m not sure if those numbers would still be correct for someone of my age, and with my goals.

Does Taking the HGH I.V. rather than I.M. increase any of the risks involved with HGH? Also would I.V. increase the effectiveness with my goals in mind, or is this method simply best when bodybuilding type goals are in mind?
my father is especially concerned with the enlarging organs, and has a theory that taking it I.V. would make the organs have to process the HGH more, increasing this risk, if that makes sense??.. (Although this is completely hypothetical, and largely uneducated haha)

Would taking at a young age effect my natural GH levels in a negative sense? and if so, would these changes be permanent?

Is there anything you would suggest taking along with the HGH? Or any suggestions for my diet while i’m on this cycle?
As of now, i’ve been suggested by a local to take a liver support, just to be safe…

If i were to only do a one time cycle, would my gains in body compostion, as well as athletic performance dissipate?
Due to testing at the college an professional levels, i don’t feel i could continously cycle on and off like a bodybuilder…

I apologize for the length of this, and if any of my questions are ignorant, as i said before, i’ve spent days looking through the forums on this, i’m just not sure if all the same principles apply to my goals and age.

Thank you for your time :slight_smile:

Other’s input is also appreciated, this was originally a PM to BBB, but i’m thinking his PM’s still aren’t working as he mentioned, because it didn’t show up in my sent box =/

EDIT: fixed, just turned 18 last week (after i starting composing this message with my questions during my rsearch) not sure if that makes a difference, but i would really appreciate your help

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I realized after i posted the edit, that it prbly sounds like some bull**** to get you to answer my question, but i really did lol

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right dude. I have a steriod PDF book that should answer your questions. I can email you it or somethin if yu want?

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Bear in mind that at 17 to 18, theres half a chance all your growth plates are still open and a significant chance that some of them are as opposed to all, so if you decide to make use of your unlimited supply of HGH you may well end up:

  1. Significantly taller

  2. With a strange looking head

  3. With ape like arms

  4. Looking like a giraffe

  5. With unusally massive hands

  6. Improving your recovery

The only way to know if they are closed is a full body x-ray, and more likely an MRI along with the opinion of a good radiologist.

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So your suggesting getting a full body x-ray/MRI, to make certain that the plates still have potential for growth?

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Most guys bone growth doesnt stop till 21. I probably grew 3/4 of an inch every year from 17-19. Not everyones alike though I guess.
May I ask how tall you are currently? And point out that it may cause joint pain… that could severely effect your agility… and carpel tunnel wouldnt exactly be ideal for that perfect follow through. Then again, your decision.

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Even when GH is given to preteen children with GH deficiency for years it only causes 1-4cm of growth. No one knows what are the long term effects of hormones above normal physiological ranges on people still in puberty. You could reset your body’s natural GH level, and end up with less GH for the rest of your life.

If high doses of GH for a long period of time cause any extra growth, it won’t be more than a fraction of a cm. But, since you’re young, there’s a real chance that you could mess up your hormones. You should wait until your body has fully matured.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I just noticed that you altered your age from 17 to 18.

Unless your birthday was yesterday or today, you have effectively gifted yourself ZERO CREDIBILITY. You sir, are a liar.

That is all.

BBB[/quote]

what if he is 25 tomorrow? then will it be ok…LOL damn just sad … why do we keep re-visting the train wreck…its really NOT going to get better at all…EVER

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and as i said in the edit, turned 18 last week, while still writing the post.

Appreciate all the advice, and will definiteley reconsider…

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[quote]Lover95 wrote:
Even when GH is given to preteen children with GH deficiency for years it only causes 1-4cm of growth. No one knows what are the long term effects of hormones above normal physiological ranges on people still in puberty. You could reset your body’s natural GH level, and end up with less GH for the rest of your life.

If high doses of GH for a long period of time cause any extra growth, it won’t be more than a fraction of a cm. But, since you’re young, there’s a real chance that you could mess up your hormones. You should wait until your body has fully matured.[/quote]

Not true. I have personally seen a child of short stature age 17 gain a foot of height over 18 months on very high doses of physician prescribed GH. Having said that, how this applies to people of normal height, there is bound to be a limit. That is not the main concern though, if some of his plates are closed then he is going to end up looking like one mutated freak if he doesn’t listen. That kid I mentioned previously, whilst now being of normal height, has one freakishly large head.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

A young man who perhaps has started down the road to diabetes already, due to excessive GH use. Perhaps the man develops pancreatitis in later life and cannot effectively digest food.[/quote]

Hey BBB, two questions for you regarding this post if you get time (if I get time off from studying micro I will try to figure it out myself)

First, has excessive GH actually been linked to Diabetes and if so do you think that pulsing it could reduce this risk over the SubQ continuous release?

Second, do you think that HgH mediated pancreatitis would result from blood sugar issues or stem from a fatty liver, reduced gall bladder function, or bile duct issue?

I’m just barely science educated nerd curious again…

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Dude i would suggest you work on your athletic ability as opposed to your physical stature… remember BBB gave some sound advice.

there are some really good bb players that are not all that tall yet have made it big. I would suggest getting inspiration from them before deciding on going the radical approach of HGH which in all honesty might stuff you up due to the massive doses you would need to take for it to provide some form of skeletal growth…and even then it might be in the wrong places.

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cool stuff BBB…well thanks to the info you gave me on my other post im now shooting E3D as you suggested :slight_smile: Still reading up on HGH as I go along.