[quote]Chushin wrote:
BTW, just curious: What are you, some 19 year-old grad student? For your sake, I sure hope so. Otherwise, you have my (sincere) sympathies.
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We usually call 19 year old grad students prodigies.
[quote]therover wrote:
What I mean is, when the shit hits the fan ( it hasn’t happened yet, but one scenario is Israel attacks Syria, worse case, they use a tactical nuke on them ), all the nations would band together regardless of un-common interests to fight against Israel. So I am sure that scenario didn’t enlighten you because you know that would happen. [/quote]
The shit hit the fan already.
Israel is illegally occupying part of Syria (the Golan heights). Do you see the Saudis “band together” with Damascus to fight Israel?
Israel attacked Lebanon a year ago, killing countless Lebanese children and women, maiming a lot more, and making millions of refugees. The “jewel” of the M.E was blasted into oblivion. Did you see anyone raise a finger?
If Israel drops nukes on anyone, you can bet your yearly supp budget that the countries in the region (in fact the whole international community) will band together against Israel. However, tt won’t be because they don’t ascribe to the Jewish faith as you claim. It’ll be out of concern for the future of humanity. Heck, even the US may turn out against Israel at that point.
From your writing, I gather that you think countries in the M.E. are inherently anti-Semitic. That is a misinformed position at best.
Thanks for the input.
[quote]mstott25 wrote:
We usually call 19 year old grad students prodigies. [/quote]
More importantly, would they hang out on T-Nation. Would they hang out at all?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Israel is illegally occupying part of Syria (the Golan heights). Do you see the Saudis “band together” with Damascus to fight Israel?
Saudis would be the last to jump on the band wagon.
Israel attacked Lebanon a year ago, killing countless Lebanese children and women, maiming a lot more, and making millions of refugees. The “jewel” of the M.E was blasted into oblivion. Did you see anyone raise a finger?
Yes…doesn’t Iran supply Hezbollah with weapons ( as well as resources such as soldiers ? ) Besides, there really isn’t a Lebanon per se in terms of the Lebanese people. There are more nationalities occupying the country now instead of Lebanese, and the country has turned radical Muslim. It was predominatly a Christian country with an Orthodox religion and peaceful prior to all the shit. So…in a way, why would the other nations raise a finger when Israel attacks because it’s not their country anyway. Now…if Israel attacks Iran, Syria, Jordan…etc. Then lets see how many fingers are raised. The US could have really done a great thing by stepping in and stabilizing Lebanon when it had the chance, but I bet you Israel had a say in that one.
If Israel drops nukes on anyone, you can bet your yearly supp budget that the countries in the region (in fact the whole international community) will band together against Israel. However, tt won’t be because they don’t ascribe to the Jewish faith as you claim. It’ll be out of concern for the future of humanity. Heck, even the US may turn out against Israel at that point.
When did I claim it’s due to the Jewish faith ? I never said that or implied that. Religion was never in my statements so I don’t know how you implied that. All I said was it’s because they are Jewish. They hate Jews…plain and simple. Been that way for a long, long time my friend. And religion is not the reason why.
And the US would side with Israel in a second, deeming Syria ( or whatever counry they attacked) a terrorist nation and part of the axis of evil ( that is, if GB was President).
From your writing, I gather that you think countries in the M.E. are inherently anti-Semitic. That is a misinformed position at best.
Again…not anti-Semitic…ANTI-JEW. I thought I clarified that after you scolded me and wikipedia linked me on what a Semite is. Yes, that is what I think. Countries in the M.E. are anti-Jew. You think different ? If so, I got lots of land in Mississippi I can sell you cheap.
[quote]therover wrote:
Yes, that is what I think. Countries in the M.E. are anti-Jew.
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Anti-Zionist? Probably. Since the majority of the world is, you should be safe in making that countries in the ME are anti-Zionist. Probability 101.
Anti-Jew? No fucking way. Jews have been living in peace and harmony in those countries for centuries (not so much harmony in Russia, but Jewish people rose to prominent positions there if you know what I mean). You can’t make abstraction of history and label a whole bunch of countries anti-Jew without as much as a shred of evidence.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Jews have been living in peace and harmony in those countries for centuries (not so much harmony in Russia, but Jewish people rose to prominent positions there if you know what I mean). You can’t make abstraction of history and label a whole bunch of countries anti-Jew without as much as a shred of evidence.[/quote]
Jews are still living in Iraq ? Yeah about 50 of them ( from probably over 100,000 50 years ago). Same with Iran, although the numbers are probably a little higher. It’s a fact more and more Jews are removing themselves ( due to any number of reasons ) from these countries.
So, they maybe living in peace and harmony amongst themselves, but I don’t see how they could in Iraq, when the Iraqi constitution wanted to remove them as a community instead of treating them as a minority.
And when I speak of countries, I am talking M.E. countries, close to Israel…not freaking Russia !
But, if you want me to get even more specific…Zionists. Maybe, to clarify my argument even more, the countries do not like Israel. So, they will band together against Israel, no matter what beef they have with each other.
That was the point I was trying to make. Sorry I was not clear.
Now I expect a response like ’ No shit they don’t like Israel’ So…you can save 1 minute of your time and not respond.
But, as to the initial theme of this thread, I agree with you. Also, you have very valid points of argument on other threads that you posted or replied to. You obviously do your homework. What my problem is, you attack another’s point of view like it does not matter or it’s bullshit. Not good.
Remember, lots of us here misspell words, do not clarify with specifics and generally voice an opinion to continue intelligent dialog and to possibly learn something and get another’s point of view. What should not happen is a response that calls people racists, SOB’s, a-holes, etc. Then again, some people have nothing better to do or they feel that using these words bolsters their response.
[quote]therover wrote:
So, they will band together against Israel, no matter what beef they have with each other. [/quote]
That’s much better formulated. It indeed appears that the state of Israel hasn’t been generally accepted in the region. As long as you realize that the beef is with “Israel” and not with “the Jewish people”, we can be on the same wavelength.
I don’t see much evidence to support your theory that, say Iranians and Saudis could ever “band together”, but you’re entitled to speculate.
Anyway, that was quite an interesting talk spaceman. Thanks for taking the time to share your views.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
I remember when I was a nitpicking little prick, too. Right up until my 13th birthday.
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You’ve done a lot of growing up these past three years.
[quote]lixy wrote:
therover wrote:
I don’t see much evidence to support your theory that, say Iranians and Saudis could ever “band together”, but you’re entitled to speculate.
You are correct on that one, and there is not much evidence with any of my theory and I hope it’s never proved ! . I was thinking more of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Jordan. But I am glad to see you understand my point of view…however nutty it is !