[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
This kind of stuff really hits a nerve with me.
The whole Bullying thing has been a media hot button topic. To that end I have heard many people IRL and on Tnation claiming how it is a right of passage and Bullying and complaining about it is leading to the pussification of America and of people in general. While I have dealt with bullying and teasing as a kid, none of it was fun, it was embarrassing at times emasculating but thankfully I overcame it not unscathed (maybe a little angry as a teenager) but for the most part Im over it.
When I really struggled with bullying was when it was done to my step son, who came out as a homosexual in high school. The damage it done and the heartbreak I felt when my son was terrified to go to school, because he was isolated, beaten up, humilated and emotional scarred left me with a whole new take on the bullying and its being pushed to the forefront.
The horror he went through for simply being attracted to dudes crushed me and my wife, and it left him with lasting emotional damage. He was an introverted, quiet, unassuming, smart and talented child that had to deal with what I considered over the top bullying. He never made a spectacle of himself or his sexuality but I always had an idea.
Highschool kids picked it up as well and he was betrayed by the few friends he confided in. While not directly related to the video (the kid was a fucking boss BTW) Bullying should not be tolerated the was so many people feel it should. Watching quite a few documentaries about it and being left in tears because I feel so bad for these emotionally tortured kids has totally changed my views on the subject.
While the media loves to beat things to a dead horse, and go over the top to the point where you are almost forced to be contrarian on the matter this is one topic that really needs constant attention. Many times the ones being picked on dont have the fortitude to stand up for themselves and they end up doing damage sometimes ireperable damage to themselves[/quote]
I get that.
Alas, if you are a pussy it wont get better if you are coddled for being one.
I think it would be (or have been) infinitely healthier for your stepson if he got beaten down after punching a bully in the bollocks, than to do no bolloks punching at all.
Maybe some kids never get it and fall by the wayside, but the rest learns to bollocks punch.
And bollocks punching is where its at.
You cant build a society based on what the most weak, timid and stupid would do or can handle. [/quote]
You can stand there in your ivory tower and talk about what’s good for society, let’s see how you feel if you ever have a child and witness them being bullied and changing in front of your eyes.
In this instance, you’re like the guy with no kids giving parenting advice. [/quote]
I was that kid.
I took on 4 at a time.
I would like to say that I lost but dispended lots of punches to the bollocks and it was totally worth it, but due to excessive bolloks punching I kind of won.
If I ever have a son, I would rather have him kick, bite and claw to a defeat than meekly accept this nonsense and win by running for help.
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I’m with you on this one.
Hell, why stop there?
Every time I had a kid, I threw em into the forest alone for 6 months to be raised by wolves. The first 3 never came back. But they were pussies, so fuck those guys, right? My current son returned after 6 months carrying the corpses of the pack of wolves which had raised them which he had strangled by hand. So I guess he’s manly enough for me to call him my son. But only just.
On a serious not, I was bullied too, and I was also a kid that fought back. I got into a shit ton of fights in school. Where did it get me? Well, I’ve got a face covered in scars from violence. My unprovoked attack sent a guy to the hospital once when I was lost in a total fit of rage. Even now, I often feel like I have to hold my rage in check. I’d like to say my experiences made me a better man, but I really can’t say that.
As a father now, while I would certainly wish my son would have the cojones to handle his own shit, I already know from personal experience that this doesn’t necessarily make you a better man. I also understand that a large proportion of kids who are targeted for bullying already have pre-existing issues with anxiety disorders or depression. I also know how difficult and demoralizing it is to go through school without a friend. It’s not fair to judge someone else for getting help for problems that are greater than they can handle if you haven’t first walked a mile in their shoes, and I certainly wouldn’t disparage my son for doing so. Not everybody is a fighter.
Orion, I hope you have a son that is a little metrosexual hipster bitch. That would be divine justice. But not only that. You’d find out something about funny about what it means to be a father. Because even if your son turned out the be a bitch, he’s still the same cute little toddler that ran toward you with a mischievous grin while carrying his stuffed monkey.
This is a topic that you cannot truly appreciate until you look at it from the side of a parent. Until then, you are only parading your ignorance so openly that it’s causing me to wince a little.
