bullshit

nope i didnt disappear.and i havent been hiding, just busy.let me make this very clear before i even start to say anything else.im not trolling.i did not start this thread because i am just out to have some fun getting under a few peoples skin who i honestly dont even really know.i wrote this thread because it has to do with stuff ive noticed going on in this forum for awhile.im aware of the neilgs, jackedhulk/bigconans, and 51yearold stans out there and im definitely not one of them.i have more of a life than to just sit around and piss people off i dont even know.now that i said that ill move on.

i think its hilarious for some of you to already assume that im a “f’in newbie” or however else some of you put it, saying that im just bitching because i got put down in some other thread.actually that never happened and this thread really has nothing to do with me or a personal issue.its about tolerance.you have no clue how long ive been here, what i have or havent read at tmag, and what i do or dont know.its bullshit that anybody ever even made that an issue in here.i know for a fact that ive actually been here reading this site for longer than some of you that posted a reply.does that make me feel special?do i act like im better than ANY of you becase of it?no and it has absolutley nothing to do with what i was saying.i guarantee theres lots of people here who know three times as much as i do, despite the fact that ive been here awhile.

and the whole popping out taking a punch and running to hide thing.what reason do i have whatsoever to “hide”?oh no is someone going to come get me, kick my ass, put me in my place?are some people not going to be my friend anymore?i dont even know anyone here personally anyway.but on the same token does it really make a difference if you DO know my real name, number, where i live or whatever?what difference does that make on what im saying?what i say has still been said whether you know who i am or not and its still relevant.

im not here looking for respect or because “i just want people to love me and take me seriously too”.i could really give damn about being accepted as a respectable voice in this forum.i use this place to learn.im just saying this because i love this place and i feel like the mental attitude has really gone to shit sometimes.ive learned more here than i ever did in any thing i did in college and i want it to be that way for as many other people as possible also.this thread was supposed to make some people realize that you dont have to be a dick to someone because theyre interested in something youre not.

im sorry the thread i spoke of in the dogg pound was not exactly as i stated it in the first post.i should have had my facts more straight.the point is that the thread talked about some things that might seem pretty minor to some people.it was just an example just like the oatmeal thread is only one example of a lot of other threads that are the same way.i have no interest in that fish oil question or how much money it could cost or save me by understanding that stuff, because its not an issue to me whatsoever.but i think its absolutely fine if someone else finds that important.and really that oatmeal thread had to do with some things that have never been on this board before.it wasnt a dumb newbie question.yet a bunch of vets wanted to weight it down with those kettleball remarks.and i dont see where anyone who was seriously taking a part in that thread was ever “impolite” to someone who knows more than them.nor was there one ounce of constructive criticism that someone just didnt want to listen to.so dont play that card on me.and i could personally really give two fuckin shits about that oatmeal question.maybe some day it will interest me and ill go fuckin around with the search engine like i do about every day and happen back upon that thread and learn something i didnt know before.

to the person who said something about “not saying anything” theres a huge difference with callling someone out for giving misleading or even dangerous information and making fun of someone for their interest in a subject.in fact they have absolutely nothing to do with each other.somebody else said something about just about everything here has been discussed before.okay so lets just shut down the training nutrition section because itd be dumb to talk about that anymore wouldnt it? everythings been talked about.but it looks to me like there is stuff there everyday thats hasnt been there before.yeah theres plenty of the “dude how can i just pack on some serious mass” and “i want to rip up for the girls this summer” and they do get annoying.but im sure going in and thinking up some stupid smartass remark takes more wasted time and effort than just to pass over the thread and keep scrolling down.

im aware of the tmag flavor.i know patricia is the movie freak, ko is the chef, ike is hardcore deadlift guy, goldberg is the westside nut, cake is the weird guy with the quotes and MBE is the timeline master or at least used to be when he was here more, and theres a whole lot more that add their own spice to the mix.but its funny that nowhere in there did i see someone known as just an asshole.i dont think anyone here is truly like that.its just that some people seem to have a huge chip on their shoulder lately.its like theyve run out of things to talk about themselves so they go fuck with others for what theyre saying.im aware of the crazy nature of this board sometimes and i do have a sense of humor.i have flat out laughed out loud and gotten a bunch of weird looks in the computer lab when reading stuff on this board sometimes.thats just people being funny though, not getting kicks by being a prick.

its just a matter of principle and how people treat each other.i never said anything about people having to be all sweet and offer cookies to new people on this fuckin board.but theres a difference between being real forward and being a flatout dickhead.i know theres going to be some saying “oh go sit in the corner and rub your pussy” or something like that.hell some people already have.and thats fine by me if you think this is just whining.those are the kind of people i dont give a fuck to associate with anyway becuase theyre not even getting the point im trying to make here they cant read between the lines.i just think some people have taken this “tmag in your face attitude” thing a bit too far and seem to think that they are the blue tman himself and they need to just shoot everyone in the leg with some harsh criticism.i just hope that i might have made at least ONE person out there think twice before they respond to a newb with someone asshole remark, and maybe even decide to help the guy instead even if its a simple “go use search”.if i did that just got through to one person then i accomplished a little of what i wanted to do with this thread.

when this forum first started it truly was a place where anybody could ask anything with no worries about being labeled a dumbass or made fun of because they asked a question that seemed kind of out of line.about the worst thing anyone was ever going to say was “dammit we already talked about it go use search”.you were just an ignorant, skinny, fat, or weak person one time too who just wanted to learn more, get bigger, lose some fat, or get stronger.remember that.

“Weird” guy?

Wounded Dude, wounded…

“Is it weird in here, or is it just me”

~ Steven Wright

I think some of the underlying problems, which you’re describing the symptoms of, are being address. Look at the “Why do regulars stop posting” and the “Forum FAQ” posts. Civility is on the wane everywhere in the world. If that’s what you’re saying, I agree. But I really feel that’s a symptom, not a problem unto itself.

I’ve been reading this site since year one and reading the forums off and on since their inception. I’ve only recently started posting. People talk about the “good old days” of the forums, but I’ve always thought it went it cycles – good times, bad times. (Why anyone posted or read the early forum I’ll never know. It was so slow.) One thing that pretty much a constant. Carping points out problems but participating helps develop solutions. Participate!

I’m more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt about your feelings, but if you really want people to read any more of your posts you’ve got to get the legibility under control. Try composing in your email client rather than Word so you don’t get those question marks. And remember that in English, we like capitals at the beginning of our sentences and spaces after our periods. There was only one ee cummings.

anon, while I actually agree with several of the things you’ve said, I don’t see how you will change anyone’s mind here if you continue to try to get your ideas across in the same manner. Because you’re posting as anon, all we know of you is this thread, which shows us that you’re judgemental, combative, insecure, and apparently hated your 8th grade English teacher. (I did too, but I learned how to use the shift key!)

Can you understand why very few are taking to your ideas well?

Im not really sure where Im coming off as judgemental, combative, or insecure. Im not judging anyone here as a person for the things they said. I even said I dont think anyone here is REALLY an asshole. Theres a lot more to who a person is than just the things they say to people. I just said its bullshit the way some people are treating others lately, when theres no reasonable justification for it whatsoever. In fact part of this thread was to point people in the other direction towards not being judgemental. And for being combative, Im not really trying to “win” anything here so to speak. I have not come out and attacked anybody personally. I dont really see this as a competition of me trying to score points or pin someone to the ground first. Its just me standing on a soapbox and speaking my mind about something I care about. As for being insecure well that I might understand just a tiny little bit if youre referring to the fact that Ive posted under anon. But as I said no one REALLY knows me anyone so what difference does it make if I post as anon03, GiantThor, or DanJones? And if people criticize me or things I said correctly Ill take it like a man. Its just that not one person has really come in here and given a good reason for being a prick on these boards just for the hell of it. I admitted before I kind of twisted things up when I talked about the Dogg Pound thread and apologized. I dont believe Im absolutely right and my word is the last and only right one on the subject. And Ive addressed as many peoples points as I could with a counterpoint, not just called them a name. So Im not really on the defensive or on the run here.

Im not trying to be difficult. Ive said it already and Ill say it again, I just love this place and dont want it to go to shit, because lately it hasnt been near as fun to read and learn around here.

I pretty much agree with everything Anon3 has said in this thread. I don’t think he is combative at all. He’s just seems to be saying be nice, and don’t think you’re special just because you’ve been posting a long time.

JimmyMcD…Mrs.V, et al…Thanks!

Every effort is made to insert the correct amount of sense into the nonsense of my posts.

…and that ain’t easy…

Still hurtin’ over the “weird” crack though.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, it’s a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope. Which is what I do, and that enables you to laugh at life’s realities”

~ Theodor Geisel

Anon – can you take it on faith that collectively we won’t allow this thing to go off the deep end?

Let’s turn it around for a minute. What do you LIKE most about this place? What do you read first? How do you fit it in with your training? What are your goals? Give us something positive to rally around and there’s no doubt we will.

Cake Im sorry I didnt mean that in a derogatory way at all. I was just saying youre the guy that always says things that no one else thinks of but really they usually have a lot of truth or sense to them. It wasnt a knock. Sorry.

I was a newbie when i was 12. At that age i started reading everything i could about training. I loved bill star and muscle media 2000. Then i read everything i could once i got around to the internet. I have no patience for some of the posts that have been posted lately. One guy on the photo forum just asked if anybody knew of any good training programs. what the fuck is that about? its not about thinking your better than somebody else. its about people having some damn common sense about things.

anon03…

:slight_smile:

'Cake

“I have never understood why it should be considered derogatory to the Creator to suppose that he has a sense of humour”
~ William R. Inge

“. One guy on the photo forum just asked if anybody knew of any good training programs. what the fuck is that about?”

Damn, the nerve this guy has!! Coming asking for people to share training programs in a damned bodybuilding site. WHat’s this world coming to…

Restless,

I believe the point was that what the guy did was akin to walking onto a car lot and asking if the salesman knows of a good place to get a car.

There are a ton of programs in the magazine and then repeatedly discussed on the forums. Asking if we know of any good training programs is insane with the amount of knowledge that is freely available if one will, in fact, avail themselves of it.

A question a step above would be to ask what others’ favorite routines for gaining mass are. The next step would be to ask about a specific plan that the guy read about.

Great job restless. Way to totally miss what i was saying. You are the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

I dunno Goldberg, even if he missed your point he still did a damm good job of busting your balls.

What’s the matter Goldyboy, don’t like the taste of your own medicine?

Sarcasm is your friend, isn’t it?

"There are a ton of programs in the magazine and then repeatedly discussed on the forums. Asking if we know of any good training programs is insane with the amount of knowledge that is freely available if one will, in fact, avail themselves of it. "

I see no problem with that. If asking is offensive then maybe we just just delete the forum and instead place a link for the search engine.

What’s the point of having a forum then?

OF course questions are going to be asked a million times, that is the nature of the beast. There’s nothing you can do about that.

Restless, the point of having a forum is discussed in the rest of my post.

Asking a question is not offensive. Saying fuck you you stupid honkey is offensive. Asking a stupid question is annoying.

And he really didnt “bust my balls”. He took what i said out of context to try and make me look stupid. Thats not busting my balls. Thats being a reporter.

I calls them likes I sees them…