[quote]Ape Escape wrote:
Black Flag wrote:
I never heard about gaining extra fat after 17%, can you tell where you got that from? I’m just curious, I’m not trying to challenge you or anything
A Training Philosophy For Solid Mass Gain
by: Kelly Baggett
Foundational Principles
- Maximizing Partitioning
A natural trainee can maximize environmental factors that affect his partitioning by training at the right frequency with the right type and dosage of training, eating enough food, sleeping enough, staying relatively stress free, and keeping his body composition within his ?optimum muscle building window? which, generally speaking, is between the range of 10-17% body-fat for most males and 12-20% for most females.
At less then about 10% body-fat, levels of various anabolic hormones such as testosterone go to crap, (unless you were born at 5% body-fat). At the other end, anymore then 17% body-fat and sensitivity to various anabolic hormones goes down the drain.
- Nutrition
How powerful is the effect of eating? Studies have been done on overfeeding where people were fed an additional 1000 calories per day for 100 days without any training whatsoever. Of the weight they gained, even in the absence of exercise, an average of 35% was lean muscle mass.
- Genetic Limits
“Genetic limits” really refers to how much muscle mass a person can carry at a given body-fat percentage and not how much muscle mass they can carry overall. Your ?genetic natural limit? while maintaining a lean 6% body-fat might be 200 lbs.
But if you train and eat your way up to a 300-pound bodyweight, sure as hell you will be carrying more then 200 pounds of muscle. This is why the biggest sumo wrestlers, who do little besides eat, on average carry more muscle mass then the biggest bodybuilders. That?s not a recommendation to go out and get as fat as an oversized water buffalo, but it is reality. [/quote]
No, I don’t think “quotes from personal trainers” counts as proof of anything. I am really really surprised at the numbers of people confused on this issue.
This is much like the “drink 8 glasses of water” thing. No one quite knows who originally started the “8 glasses” thing or how it was proven to be the magic number of “glasses”, but since it kept getting repeated over and over, the public just quietly accepted it until it started appearing in Saturday morning cartoons.
PROOF is a little more complex than, “well he/she said it”, especially when there are people who disagree.