Lol. I did NO Explode once. Need my money back
[quote]BiggerthnU wrote:
ok so say someone was young and dumb last summer and bought the BSN mass stack for some outlandish price…can i get my money back or how would i go about this?[/quote]
You would need to contact the Lawyers and state your problem. There information is on the PDF file. If the Lawyers win the case or BSN settles you would either receive a refund or a new product that meets its label claim. This will probably take over a year though!
[quote]2thepain wrote:
Too bad I didn’t keep any of my receipts. I always thought BSN was over hyped and over priced, finally someone has proven it. [/quote]
Your not the only one who thinks BSN is over hyped and priced. When this info hits Bodybuilding.com’s forum or Getbig there will be so much trash talking it will be insane. To bad BSN could not just make a quality product as that would have save allot of customers some money.
Wow, I am totally shocked by this. Surly these allegations can’t be true about such a respected and reputable company like BSN.
I told the guys at my high school that take NOExplode and other crap about this lawsuit, and their reactions were priceless.
“I dunno dude, I feel SOO pumped and huge when I take it. I gained like 15 lbs in two weeks!”
[quote]Acebgd12 wrote:
I told the guys at my high school that take NOExplode and other crap about this lawsuit, and their reactions were priceless.
“I dunno dude, I feel SOO pumped and huge when I take it. I gained like 15 lbs in two weeks!”[/quote]
TYPICAL!
Missed this and posted it under a new thread. Good thing I’ve never bought these guy’s products.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
Missed this and posted it under a new thread. Good thing I’ve never bought these guy’s products.
http://supplementpolice.com/Complaint.pdf
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Where did you post yours? Has any BSN Reps responded to your post? They have not responded on GetBig, the MD website and BB.com yet.
[quote]daniel_lamon wrote:
Hagar wrote:
Missed this and posted it under a new thread. Good thing I’ve never bought these guy’s products.
http://supplementpolice.com/Complaint.pdf
Where did you post yours? Has any BSN Reps responded to your post? They have not responded on GetBig, the MD website and BB.com yet.[/quote]
I posted it but it got erased. I found out about this somewhere else so I came right over to tell you guys but I never saw this topic was already posted. My apologies to the mods.
Doubt you’ll get any responses from a BSN rep. I hope they pull their crap off the shelves ASAP. The company owners should have their assets seized and their asses thrown in prison. Assholes getting rich off of scamming people. I really hope they get some years in prison for this. AND NOT IN FINLAND!!
I’m going to print off multiple copies of this and bring it to the gym with me. That way I have ammo for when someone claims their efficacy.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
daniel_lamon wrote:
Hagar wrote:
Missed this and posted it under a new thread. Good thing I’ve never bought these guy’s products.
http://supplementpolice.com/Complaint.pdf
Where did you post yours? Has any BSN Reps responded to your post? They have not responded on GetBig, the MD website and BB.com yet.
I posted it but it got erased. I found out about this somewhere else so I came right over to tell you guys but I never saw this topic was already posted. My apologies to the mods.
Doubt you’ll get any responses from a BSN rep. I hope they pull their crap off the shelves ASAP. The company owners should have their assets seized and their asses thrown in prison. Assholes getting rich off of scamming people. I really hope they get some years in prison for this. AND NOT IN FINLAND!! [/quote]
You said it!! The FDA needs to crack down and enforce the rules and regulations that are already set in place by USA and International Law.
[quote]Epimetheus wrote:
I’m going to print off multiple copies of this and bring it to the gym with me. That way I have ammo for when someone claims their efficacy. [/quote]
I hope GNC will pull the items from their shelves as they can also be sued for selling a product that is known to be an inferior product!
Any guesses on how badly this would cripple BSN, if the plaintiffs win?
[quote]Acebgd12 wrote:
Any guesses on how badly this would cripple BSN, if the plaintiffs win?[/quote]
It should cost them allot as they are one of the top newer companies in the market. Not to mention they have a large cary over to other sports like MMA and so on. Not only does the creatine claim seem to be false, but so does the patent pending claim. The patent pending claim is probably a federal offence. BSN will most likely blame their raw material supplier and pass the blame onto them, but it is BSN that is making the claims and not the supplier manufacturer so who knows. Is there a Lawyer on T-Nation?
[quote]Epimetheus wrote:
I’m going to print off multiple copies of this and bring it to the gym with me. That way I have ammo for when someone claims their efficacy. [/quote]
You should tape it up in the bathrooms and on the front door of the gym. I wonder what is actually in the product as the stated ingredient is not in there. Could it be something banned or not safe and that is why BSN made up a special kind of creatine? Is that to far fetched of a statement, who knows.
The BSN website still maintains all of these claims. Seems kinda pitiful… I didn’t read through the entire court document but am interested to see scientific refutation of the possibility of CEM…
This case could be a destructive blow to the protection of the supplement industry we all defend and make use of. Though I am not fan of BSN, I am worried about the ripple effect this will bring into the ethical marketing, and ultimately legality of all supplements. This may seem strange to defend a company that based its self off deceptions, but I can see where opponents to the industry will use this as the fresh meat they were dying to sink their teeth into.
One positive though, obvious as it may be, is the increase in purity testing!
BSN has apparently responded. I don’t know if it’s legit or not but this is what I found on other forums earlier:
Not rolling over and dying, and claim everything is false, including CEM3 not existing. Does anyone do organic chemistry around here? Can they indicate what they think about the existence of Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate?
[quote]dantheman wrote:
The BSN website still maintains all of these claims. Seems kinda pitiful… I didn’t read through the entire court document but am interested to see scientific refutation of the possibility of CEM…
This case could be a destructive blow to the protection of the supplement industry we all defend and make use of. Though I am not fan of BSN, I am worried about the ripple effect this will bring into the ethical marketing, and ultimately legality of all supplements. This may seem strange to defend a company that based its self off deceptions, but I can see where opponents to the industry will use this as the fresh meat they were dying to sink their teeth into.
One positive though, obvious as it may be, is the increase in purity testing! [/quote]
I know what you are saying! I feel the existing Federal and International laws are enough. They just need to be enforced so things of this nature do not happen again!
“BSN contends that all of the claims made against it and Chris Ferguson are meritless and intends to vigorously defend itself against these allegations.”
The lab assays have been out for ever! The date the material was analyzed was 04/04/06. Why has it taken them over a year to defend its self?
I really like this quote:
“DON?T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ? RELY ON WHAT IS PROVEN”
Lets see, what is proven? Your Cell Mass with lot number 950GC26 does not contain any CEE Malate. BSN does not have any lab assays that are available to the public to dis prove the other. BSN does not have any sources to back up their claims for CEM3 on their website. BSN does not have any independent third party studies or any study showing the “no bloat, no load, no cycle” creatine (At least in their product description). So yes, lets RELY ON WHAT IS PROVEN!!