[quote]forlife wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
Yes, I acknowledged this, but also told you that it is due to the radical Gay movement, but MOST AMERICANS STILL OPPOSE YOUR VIEW!
The point was that there has been a significant trend toward increasing acceptance of gays over time. We saw the same thing when it came to civil rights for blacks and women, and it is happening again with gays. The bigots don’t like it, but it is only a matter of time before their generation dies off and equal rights take another step forward.
This is a good ploy of yours. Attach my Biblical views to true evils of the past so as to marginalize God and the Biblical view.
Go back and study your history. The racial bigots used the very same bible to justify slavery. The misogynists used the very same bible to justify denying women the right to vote. What you now call “true evils” was at one time in our history considered completely normal, and was directly supported from the bible.
Marriage, until very recently, was 1 man + 1 woman.
Did you forget all the examples of polygamy I provided from the bible? You still haven’t provided that biblical verse that you claimed as proof that Abraham’s polygamy was considered a sin. That is because there is no such verse. Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham, and their polygamous union was sanctioned by society at the time. So much for marriage always being defined as 1 man + 1 woman.
What you engage in was regarded as a mental illness needing correction. That, sir, is a fact.
Every major medical and mental health organization in the world has concluded that homosexuality is NOT a mental illness as you claim. Again, you need to educate yourself instead of sticking your head in the sand as bigots are wont to do:
The American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses in 1973. The American Psychological Association followed suit in 1975; the National Association of Social Workers in 1977; the National Psychoanalytic Association finally followed suit in 1991, stating that homosexuality was not a disorder.
From “Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation & Youth: A Primer for Principals, Educators and School Personnel”:
"The most important fact about ‘reparative therapy,’ also sometimes known as ‘conversion’ therapy, is that it is based on an understanding of homosexuality that has been rejected by all the major health and mental health professions. American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of Social Workers, together representing more than 477,000 health and mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus there is no need for a ‘cure.’
In 1998-MAR, the Governing Council of the American Counseling Association (ACA) approved a motion that the association:
?opposes portrayals of lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth and adults as mentally ill due to their sexual orientation; and supports the dissemination of accurate information about sexual orientation, mental health, and appropriate interventions in order to counteract bias that is based in ignorance or unfounded beliefs about same-gender orientation.
You don’t like it, as it serves your religious agenda to demonize gays as being mentally ill. But the facts are against you, and every major medical and mental health organization in the world says you are wrong.
What do you think God meant when He said that if you have sexual relations with a person of your own sex it is “abomination?” What do you think it means?
I think it means that the men who wrote that particular passage believed incorrectly that homosexuality was wrong…just as they believed incorrectly that slavery was justified and that women should not have a voice in public affairs.
Did you forget that the very same men also wrote that eating lobster, wearing mixed fibers, and eating blood is an ABOMINATION?
My viewpoint is that women cannot be pastors nor can they stand in the pulpit and teach men the Bible. That is what the Bible says and that is what we do in our church and churches like ours.
Actually, the bible says that women should not so much as speak in church. It also says that they must at all times have their heads covered. Do you still believe this is “God’s Unchangeable Word”?
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Don’t forget to include new testament and old testament versus for us to read forlife 
BTW - did you know the Bible says that homosexuality is an abomination? Oh wait, that is why you hate Christians so much, isn’t it?
That’s right - You hate Christians. Is is so obvious by how you continually attack the Christians on this thread.
Using the words of one of your chums on this thread “you are a small-minded bigot”, and “I’m grateful I will not have to meet you in person”
Regards.