[quote]dagill2 wrote:
What would Rippetoe say?[/quote]
lol, he’s say something hilarious, highlighting the importance of back squats.
He doesn’t seem to care as much about deadlifts as squats…
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I feel like you’d get more out of pulling from an elevated height than off the floor, in terms of both back strength/stability and helping with bodybuilding.[/quote]
what height would you recommend?
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I feel like you’d get more out of pulling from an elevated height than off the floor, in terms of both back strength/stability and helping with bodybuilding.[/quote]
what height would you recommend?[/quote]
Experiment and see. It’s getting cliche’ of me to suggest ROM progression, but it’s honestly what I would do. You end up spending way more time pulling NOT off the floor than off the floor, which saves the back a touch, but will still develop strength and size as needed.
Would at least want to be below the knee to start with.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
back’s still fucked. It’s pissing me off.
It was 130 fucking kilos! That’s baby weight! I can bench that shit like it was fucking air! I’ve front squatted that for reps!
So why can’t I pick it up off the fucking ground?
Bah. I’m just not sure it’s worth the effort. I mean, I’m a bodybuilder, not a powerlifter. I could just stick to front squatting for lower body with my usual diet of lunges, GHR, etc. to take care of hamstring training.
Maybe I should do all the mobility stuff first, then come back to deadlifting, instead of trying to do them both at the same time.
Maybe I should just try back squatting instead. I mean, I thought that deadlifting would prepare my back, but maybe the back squat’d prepare me for deadlifting? Or maybe my back’s just fucked and heavy axial loading is just verboten for the rest of my days.
Bah. I wish I could get a definitive answer on what is actually wrong with my back. No one seems to know. I have no idea what’s causing the dysfunction. Is it my tight hips? Tight piriformis? Psoas needs releasing? Maybe it’s because my pelvis is slightly more anteriorly rotated on the right?
Bah. I dunno. Next scheduled deadlift session is Sunday. If I’m not pain free by then I’ll just sack the whole fucking thing. Bah.[/quote]
Try ab wheel rollouts focusing on aggressively tilting your pelvis posteriorly with the glutes and abs. Also, you could do RDL’s instead of regular deadlifts.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I feel like you’d get more out of pulling from an elevated height than off the floor, in terms of both back strength/stability and helping with bodybuilding.[/quote]
what height would you recommend?[/quote]
Experiment and see. It’s getting cliche’ of me to suggest ROM progression, but it’s honestly what I would do. You end up spending way more time pulling NOT off the floor than off the floor, which saves the back a touch, but will still develop strength and size as needed.
Would at least want to be below the knee to start with.[/quote]
haha, yeah you’ve been championing ROM progression for as long as I can remember!
Hmmm. So maybe I’ll add some rack pulls in at the end of lower body days. I could do them for higher reps I suppose, maybe starting as low as I can comfortably get (being very conservative on ROM at first).
[quote]knokkelezoute73 wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
back’s still fucked. It’s pissing me off.
It was 130 fucking kilos! That’s baby weight! I can bench that shit like it was fucking air! I’ve front squatted that for reps!
So why can’t I pick it up off the fucking ground?
Bah. I’m just not sure it’s worth the effort. I mean, I’m a bodybuilder, not a powerlifter. I could just stick to front squatting for lower body with my usual diet of lunges, GHR, etc. to take care of hamstring training.
Maybe I should do all the mobility stuff first, then come back to deadlifting, instead of trying to do them both at the same time.
Maybe I should just try back squatting instead. I mean, I thought that deadlifting would prepare my back, but maybe the back squat’d prepare me for deadlifting? Or maybe my back’s just fucked and heavy axial loading is just verboten for the rest of my days.
Bah. I wish I could get a definitive answer on what is actually wrong with my back. No one seems to know. I have no idea what’s causing the dysfunction. Is it my tight hips? Tight piriformis? Psoas needs releasing? Maybe it’s because my pelvis is slightly more anteriorly rotated on the right?
Bah. I dunno. Next scheduled deadlift session is Sunday. If I’m not pain free by then I’ll just sack the whole fucking thing. Bah.[/quote]
Try ab wheel rollouts focusing on aggressively tilting your pelvis posteriorly with the glutes and abs. Also, you could do RDL’s instead of regular deadlifts.[/quote]
yeah core work’s definitely a piece of the puzzle, and one that I’ve been neglecting.
RDLs have bothered my back in the past, and my mobility doesn’t allow for much ROM (although that might not be such a bad thing). Definitely something to consider.
I think in the meantime that I’ll go back to front squatting, but have a light and heavy day. Instead of just using things like pre-exhaustion or ludicrously high reps, I’ll try and push the weight up.
I’ll add the rack pulls in at the end.
had a sports therapist look at me today. He was quite clear that I should NOT be deadlifting! Haha
Tried trap bar deadlifts?
lol, dude I’ve got a way more up to date log than this
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