Brain Function Boosters

I’ve tried modafinil, deprenyl, hydergine, and ritalin and had some great results from all but I seem to burn out quite easily on them (not the hydergine - general effects of that are less pronounced) and similarly with Spike.

I tend to need stimulation but cannot tolerate stimulation for long which makes sense I suppose, physiologically I’m creating a deficit.

So I’m trying various commercial products such as vinpocetine, DMAE, huperzine, rhodiola in an effort to replicate the nice effects without the eventual downsides I experience. Incidentally Spike is just like modafinil imo and I love it, just can’t tolerate it for long, more’s the pity.

I found these two products which combine the aforementioned ingredients, titanIQ and bodyquicken/brainquicken; has anyone tried them?

I’ve taken titanIQ and enjoyed it and I think brainquicken is similar. Any feedback or alternatives would be appreciated.

I’ve tried ritalin, hydergine, selegiline and modafinil and found all bar the hydergine helpful although as someone who needs stimulation I cannot tolerate either of these for long.

Similarly I’ve tried Spike (which imo is like modafinil) and although I love the effects I cannot tolerate for more than a couple of days.

Anyone have any hints on how to increase my tolerance to these drugs and prevent the inevitable crash? I know I’m creating a deficit but has anyone found the holy grail?!!

I’m also trying some more commerically available products containing vinpocetine, DMAE, rhodiola, huperzine and these are titanIQ and brainquicken. Actually only tried titanIQ (it’s UK based as opposed to brainquicken) but they’re both similarly composed and I have to say I’m pleased with the results, not crashed yet after a week, but I do crave the real hit that modafinil can give, so any advice would be greatfully received.

Just guessing; but I doubt that mixing powders would be a problem. Unless, they formed together somehow…

Lots of companies that sell supplements in cap/powder form mix stuff together.

Has anyone ever gotten pretty sick feeling (stomachache and/or vomiting) after taking paracetem?

My girl tried it last weekend with a meal before we trained and then she didn’t feel good, not sure if it was related.

she had 250mg of it with a small meal and water.

Aren’t all the 'racetams supposed to be legal for import to the U.S.? I emailed bulk nutrition, and they said they’d been having trouble getting them past customs. Everywhere online seems to be out of stock.

B rock, I’ve been using piracetam for about a month now, in doses up to 2g with and without food, and had no issues.

[quote]T Ham wrote:

Some melatonin is sublingual, you still think double capping is better? I guess a the fall asleep vs stay asleep problem.[/quote]

I dunno - I have never tried the sub lingual route.

With melatonin, I don’t think it is necessary.

I use a double release form of melatonin, and extra cap it.

Anyone else experiment or have comments about methyl donors like TMG, DMG, SAMe or DMAE (part of its benefits are from methyl donation). I believe TMG and Ashwagandha have a synergistic effect when taken together…I skipped my TMG the other day and the Ashwagandha was not nearly as effective that day, I felt agitated all day.

The next day I took my 250mgs Trimethylglycine and my 300mgs Ashwagandha together again and was back to “normal”. I believe the TMG is why I get good results from such a low dose of Ashwagandha.

Guys, when taking DMAE with piracetam, BBB has suggested 600mg once or twice a day (with perhaps 2+g of piracatam I believe).

Is that 600mg ‘elemental’ DMAE, or 600mg DMAE-bitartrate or whatever it’s bonded to usually?

Also, does anyone know the conversion rate?

My apologies if this has been covered, I read up to about page 30 and ran out of time :frowning:

Best,

Dan

Bump? :<

ScienceDaily (Mar. 23, 2009) ? Preliminary research in healthy men suggests that the narcolepsy drug modafinil, increasingly being used to enhance cognitive abilities, affects the activity of dopamine in the brain in a way that may create the potential for abuse and dependence, according to a study in the March 18 issue of JAMA.

[quote]danchubb wrote:
Guys, when taking DMAE with piracetam, BBB has suggested 600mg once or twice a day (with perhaps 2+g of piracatam I believe).

Is that 600mg ‘elemental’ DMAE, or 600mg DMAE-bitartrate or whatever it’s bonded to usually?

Also, does anyone know the conversion rate?

My apologies if this has been covered, I read up to about page 30 and ran out of time :frowning:

Best,

Dan[/quote]

Thats 600mg of actual DMAE.

DMAE Bitartrate is usually 1/3 actual pure DMAE.

So your gonna need 1800mg a day.

The usual BN supplier will do.

So, lot’s. Thanks for that reply. What other options are there for choline boosting apart from DMAE - that people believe work. Eg is say 200mg actual DMAE + 400mg phosphatidyl choline an okay substitute? Has anyone had any experience with Alpha-GPC as compared to others? Or citicoline?

Best,

Dan

Thanks for that roweski. What are your thoughts on doing a mix of phosphatidyl choline and DMAE instead of just DMAE? Or is 600mg DMAE Bitartrate sufficient in your opinion? Also, do you split that into two doses (or more) to have with each serve of your racetam(s) of choice? Or just in one hit.

Thanks for the help mate.

Dan

No, I didn’t get a PM. I just sent you one however - did you get that?

Yeah, ta.

Has anyone noticed the shortage of Racetams lately?

It would seem that even BN havent got any in stock???

What gives?

Did you get my PM, Wings?

[quote]wings_931 wrote:
Has anyone noticed the shortage of Racetams lately?

It would seem that even BN havent got any in stock???

What gives?[/quote]

www.bodybuilding.com/store/prima/piracetam.html

For piracetam, it is cheaper than the prices that BN used to have.