Got my Prami. Took it with almond milk. Whoever said this was foul was not kidding- this is straight up casein hydrosylate intense negative taste. I’ve got plenty of chemistry reading to do, so we’ll see how this goes.
Not to hold the newby sign over my head, but . . . has anyone else experienced a kick-to-the-head sensation from taking in more than 250mg of DMAE? I’ve tried it in different forms, at different times, and with either no other substances aside from water, or the rest of my daily doses with grape fruit juice.
Every time I break 250, get nasty headaches and a two days without sleep running on caffeine feeling.
[quote]Vash wrote:
Not to hold the newby sign over my head, but . . . has anyone else experienced a kick-to-the-head sensation from taking in more than 250mg of DMAE? I’ve tried it in different forms, at different times, and with either no other substances aside from water, or the rest of my daily doses with grape fruit juice.
Every time I break 250, get nasty headaches and a two days without sleep running on caffeine feeling.[/quote]
Are you sure there’s nothing else in your DMAE?
I’ve taken the stuff in some truly massive doses (grams) on many occassions, no issues here.
The choline should help PREVENT headaches from choline depletion, not cause them.
Hey guys, I’ve had a LONG(almost 2 years) break from school and was thinking about starting a stack for this semester. I’ve never taken any sort of “brain boosters” if that makes a difference.
How does this look?
Vinpocetine 3 x 10mg with food.
Huperzine A 3 x 50mcg with food.
DMAE 600mg once or twice per day, to replenish chloin levels.
Aniracetam (not sure on the dosing yet, any advice?)
I also read that you should be up with your B complex vitamins. How do you recommend taking these? I mean should I get a multi or should I try and get all the B vitamins in separate pills to dose them differently? if so how much do you recommend of each daily?
Also should I take everything with food? and which ones should I take with fat?
Sorry for all the questions but after 3 threads it can get confusing and I want to make sure I get this right.
From what I got out of the BFB threads, BBB no longer recommends Huperzine, I forget why, but his word is gold in regards to noops.
Ani dosing is 600-600mg.
Afaik, you should take all nootropics with fat, so that they can be shuttled across the blood-brain barrier.
My stack for reference:
[quote]Daily:
Vinpocetine: 3x/day @ 10 mg with food(fat)
DMAE bitartrate(~30%DMAE): 1-2x/day @ 600mg(2x/day when studying)
Aniracetam: 3x/day @ 600mg(take these with fat)
1/2 hour before study sessions:
Oxiracetam: ½ hour before studying 600-800mg, taken with fat
Exam stack 30-60 minutes prior to an exam:
Bacopa: 600mg
Vinpocetine: 1x 10 mg with food(fat)
DMAE bitartrate(~30%DMAE) : 1x 600mg
Aniracetam: 1x 600mg(take these with fat)
Brain clear(to be done before above protocol)
Centrophenoxine/Lucidril, 3000mg/day for 21 days.[/quote]
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Vash wrote:
Not to hold the newby sign over my head, but . . . has anyone else experienced a kick-to-the-head sensation from taking in more than 250mg of DMAE? I’ve tried it in different forms, at different times, and with either no other substances aside from water, or the rest of my daily doses with grape fruit juice.
Every time I break 250, get nasty headaches and a two days without sleep running on caffeine feeling.[/quote]
Interesting. I do get headaches from DMAE if I accidentally OD, so perhaps a reduction in dose will be the answer. I suggest multiple small doses throughout the day, totalling no more than 250mg initially.
BBB[/quote]
Certainly not ignoring the response, BBB - thanks for the assistance!
I backed down to 250 in the morning, then another 250 four hours later (for convenience). First few days, I had what felt like a tension headache. After day four, nothing. Just felt clear.
I noticed, though, my verbal recall is . . . different. I’ve been tracking my weight and karate training, diet, sleep, and perceived stress (on a 1-10 scale), and am having an apparently patternless waving/troughing of verbal skill. I have noticed each “incidence,” for lack of a better term, falls three to four hours after my second 250mg dose. I’m going to add in a third, and see what happens.
Would it be wrong to toss the pramiracetam in with a shake? I’m thinking like- 2 tbsp almond butter, 2 scoops chocolate whey, 1 scoop Superfood, a bit of ice and almond milk, and a dose of prami.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
Hey guys, I’ve had a LONG(almost 2 years) break from school and was thinking about starting a stack for this semester. I’ve never taken any sort of “brain boosters” if that makes a difference.
How does this look?
Vinpocetine 3 x 10mg with food.
Huperzine A 3 x 50mcg with food.
DMAE 600mg once or twice per day, to replenish chloin levels.
Aniracetam (not sure on the dosing yet, any advice?)
I also read that you should be up with your B complex vitamins. How do you recommend taking these? I mean should I get a multi or should I try and get all the B vitamins in separate pills to dose them differently? if so how much do you recommend of each daily?
Also should I take everything with food? and which ones should I take with fat?
Sorry for all the questions but after 3 threads it can get confusing and I want to make sure I get this right.[/quote]
Scratch the huperzine, take 600-1200mg ani per day and use a b complex supplement.
Take 'em with food, as a general recommendation.
BBB[/quote]
Thanks man!!
Going to buy the “drugs” today. I’ll be back with some feed back in a couple of weeks.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]byukid wrote:
Would it be wrong to toss the pramiracetam in with a shake? I’m thinking like- 2 tbsp almond butter, 2 scoops chocolate whey, 1 scoop Superfood, a bit of ice and almond milk, and a dose of prami.[/quote]
Sounds like a tasty shake… until you add the prami which is one of the foulest substances ever to cross my lips.
Just cap the prami and swallow with the shake.
Did I mention that sounds like a very tasty shake???
BBB[/quote]
I don’t have the stuff for capping yet, so I just toss it in with some v-8 or grape juice. it’s not too bad like that.
I just ordered this for making caps.
I’ve always been surprised that Biotest never went all out in developing a smart drug supplement.
Although decaf Spike was pretty darn good.
Thanks for all the great info.
I read through the past threads and this one, and just placed my first order.
This will be my everyday stack:
Aniracetam 750mg x 2-3x/day
Vinpoetine 10mg x 3x/day
DMAE 100mg x 3x/day
Vit. B Complex
Flameout 2 capsules x 2x/day
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]catalyst wrote:
Thanks for all the great info.
I read through the past threads and this one, and just placed my first order.
This will be my everyday stack:
Aniracetam 750mg x 2-3x/day
Vinpoetine 10mg x 3x/day
DMAE 100mg x 3x/day
Vit. B Complex
Flameout 2 capsules x 2x/day
[/quote]
Excellent. Add on regular, low GI meals, proper hydration and quality sleep and you should have a winner!
Let us know how you get on.
BBB[/quote]
Will do! I’m looking forward to it.
hey, by the way, if you do that shake with the prami in it, it’s really not bad. there’s an initial strong taste, but the almond butter overwhelms it.