Diaries? Well…write down the time you took your nootropics, the amounts, any amino acids or herbs you took with them. Write down how much choline you took and also note how many egg yolks (another choline source) you ate that day. How you felt a couple of hours later.
What kinds of work, tasks, errands, or studying you did that day and what times you did them. Note your moods and how you felt about your mental sharpness, efficiency, productivity and accomplishments for the day. Also note how much sleep you got that day…how much coffee you drank and when. Note any headaches you had and describe them, such as a tension headache in back of neck (too much acetylcholine), or one in front(more choline needed with your 'racetams). This should get you started on the right foot…
I tried 1600mg Piracetam in one go today, felt something, strongest effect so far (previous doses: 267mg lol & 800mg) noticed a change in pupils but still not quite there yet. Going to try 2400mg tomorrow.
If not stacking it do you split the dose or take it in one go?
What works for me is to take one dose a day of piracetam first thing in the morning. If I need something else later because of a long day, I will take aniracetam. If I know ahead of time I will be in a stressful situation that day, I will take 500mgs aniracetam and 200mgs theanine beforehand to keep me mentally sharp under pressure. But it all starts with my base dose of piracetam every morning.
So I know a general guide is given in the front, but what would you suggest for helping you memorize stuff? I’m alright at memorizing things, but I’d love to see how something would help. I eat plenty of eggs, and that’s about it.
[quote]byukid wrote:
So I know a general guide is given in the front, but what would you suggest for helping you memorize stuff? I’m alright at memorizing things, but I’d love to see how something would help. I eat plenty of eggs, and that’s about it.[/quote]
Repetition, I vastly prefer looking at my material everyday instead of cramming before tests.
If you’ve looked at your material enough (especially on oxi) it just sticks.
ok this might be discussed somewhere else, anybody call me out if it is. Has anybody noticed a really drastic mental effect (not just increased energy) from taking Superfood? Ive been taking it for about three weeks and have felt COMPLETELY different, happy, alert, calm…similar to anti-depression meds which I’ve had to take before but quit a long time ago. Just was wondering if anybody was considering it a mood/mental booster and not just a nutritional supplement.
Im new to T-Nation today so nobody be too harsh please.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
byukid wrote:
So I know a general guide is given in the front, but what would you suggest for helping you memorize stuff? I’m alright at memorizing things, but I’d love to see how something would help. I eat plenty of eggs, and that’s about it.
Repetition, I vastly prefer looking at my material everyday instead of cramming before tests.
If you’ve looked at your material enough (especially on oxi) it just sticks.[/quote]
Oh I know that much- I mean, I have had a lot of success with memorizing, it’s just time intensive. I’m hoping something can speed that up. I’ve looked at the racetams but honestly i feel like an 8 year old looking at porn- i know it’s cool but at the same time i’m utterly confused.
[quote]roweski wrote:
Middleageguy, may I ask why you prefer to take piracetam instead of aniracetam in the morning?
It’s just my personal preference but I can feel ani working for a longer period of time - not that I really gave piracetam a proper run. Not to mention it’s other benefits, like increasing my creativity and abstract thinking; I might be biased but it does seem like dosing ani at a higher measure at breakfast would work better than pira, then ani later on in the day. Just my two cents.[/quote]
Well, for me, pira with taurine in the morning lasts all day…ani by itself w/o piracetam in my system makes me feel lightheaded and “high”. I only take ani on certain days when I really need it. They have different effects, pira for me really increases social intelligence and creative thinking. Ani is great for studying and memorizing, and being sharp under stress.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
byukid wrote:
Ghost22 wrote:
byukid wrote:
So I know a general guide is given in the front, but what would you suggest for helping you memorize stuff? I’m alright at memorizing things, but I’d love to see how something would help. I eat plenty of eggs, and that’s about it.
Repetition, I vastly prefer looking at my material everyday instead of cramming before tests.
If you’ve looked at your material enough (especially on oxi) it just sticks.
Oh I know that much- I mean, I have had a lot of success with memorizing, it’s just time intensive. I’m hoping something can speed that up. I’ve looked at the racetams but honestly i feel like an 8 year old looking at porn- i know it’s cool but at the same time i’m utterly confused.
Just take 600mg DMAE and 600-800mg oxiracetam and you’ll find that since you only need to read something once (or maybe twice) for it to be memorised, you save a lot of time.
[quote]roweski wrote: @byukid Let me bring you into the equivalent of sex ed for nootropics!
Actually I’m in a rush, so instead of a load of anatomy, I’m just going to hand you a metaphorical banana and a condom and let you have at it.
Oxiracetam would be your best bet if you simply wanted to ‘memorize’ things, it’s incredible the amount of information you retain whilst under it’s influence. Oxi is rather stimulant-like in nature though, so I find reducing the dose and adding some aniracetam to it [which has anxiolytic properties] really smoothes it out. The racemic compounds seem to be synergistic, and the mental clarity I get from combining the two is superior to either taken alone.
Think House MD’s team. Each member on his team has a different speciality. Every member in their own right is a good doctor, but together they solve medical mysteries. Likewise with the racetams, ani and oxi just complement each other, and work together really well
The same goes for choline. You need a source for your noggin to manufacture acetylcholine, and eggs alone [unless you’re putting away a couple hundred a week] aren’t really going to do much. Alpha GPC is one of the best sources for choline, and as luck would have it big B do a decent one right here on this very site. DMAE is good if your wallet, or inclination, doesn’t stretch that far. It’s got loads of other benefits other than just being a supply of choline. E.g. it clears away/prevents ‘brain plaque’ - nasty lipids that build up in your brain as we age and allows you to better recruit the nervous system.
A good source of choline is bloody important if you’re taking -racetams as they all seem to be cholinergic [activated by acetylcholine - which is generated from… that’s right, choline].
@fourinchheals cannae say I’ve ever noticed that before, but I totally see how it can have that effect. Especially if [and I’m not saying this is the case] your diet wasn’t great before taking it.
I’m at that point right now. My veggie intake has been abysmal for a month or two now so I’m hoping for something noticeable…[/quote]
Interesting. In my case I am simply rote memorising a book, word for word. Would a stack like ani/oxi/choline be effective over a long time, like a year?
It would probably be expensive lol!
Any cheaper alternatives to ani/oxi/choline stack that facilitates rote memorisation?
[quote]fourinchheals wrote:
ok this might be discussed somewhere else, anybody call me out if it is. Has anybody noticed a really drastic mental effect (not just increased energy) from taking Superfood? Ive been taking it for about three weeks and have felt COMPLETELY different, happy, alert, calm…similar to anti-depression meds which I’ve had to take before but quit a long time ago. Just was wondering if anybody was considering it a mood/mental booster and not just a nutritional supplement.
Im new to T-Nation today so nobody be too harsh please.[/quote]
oh yes! when i first tried Superfood i had the same effect and i got on here and said something about it and people were like yeah right it wont do that its just a greens product. well, i know what you are talking about :] i felt “lighter” like my body didnt feel sluggish, more energy, faster thinking, improved mood, euphoric. great stuff.
now, that was before my veggie intake was high, as it is now. AND that was before i started taking nootropics. i bought another bottle not too long ago and didnt have near the same effect as i did my first bottle.
[quote]roweski wrote: @smartypants Like always most would recommend vinpocetine as the first ingredient in a nootropic regime. It works by effectively letting blood circulate to the ‘harder to reach’ areas of the brain, and anything you take on top of which will increase it’s effectiveness as it gets passed round the brain’s structure more easily. That should provide a noticeable increase in memory retention alone, but because of it’s MOA stacking it with other nootropics makes them more potent.
Vinpo is a great supplement, not just for nootropic purposes. BBB has written a great article on vinpocetine that explains all the benefits of taking it, and for the price it’s definitely worth looking at as a long term solution/investment. And it doesn’t need to be cycled.
Ani/oxi/choline on top of that would work wonders, I feel. At least the vast majority of anecdotal evidence, and my own personal experience, agrees. I’d take a few days off here and there, maybe weekends, simply so you continue to ‘feel’ them working. I know after I’ve taken aniracetam for many weeks at a time I start to feel normal, like that’d be my (0,0) on a graph, instead of in an elevated state. By taking a few days off a week, you really appreciate what it’s like whilst “on” and it’s that feeling that tends to motivate me more - though I see no reason why it couldn’t be taken everyday…[/quote]
I know people say that they can memorize a whole load of info on oxi and ani, i am still yet to try it. But is the memory effects sort of short term like if you where to memorize the info, could you still recall it in a couple of weeks when you haven’t used it since, only for the study session, or does the effects work on memory recall also? So you need to keep taking it?
How significant are the effects on memorization? Part of my studies, or the way I revise involves learning loads of defintions, and lists, would it help with this? Currently I am only taking dmae and vinpo, tried piracetam on several occations, and not convinced it is actually doing anything, so stopped after I ran out, didn’t notice a difference when I stopped either.
