Brain Function Boosters 2.0

Nutrition
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Normally, I would, especially since I do have long night classes.

Recall the other issue I discussed with you re: energy levels. Would that play into this?

Also, lately (past few months) I have had extreme anxiety due to some serious family issues. Losing my job last week didn’t help. As a result, I am not sleeping well.

I know I have low cortisol in the morning and high levels at night (had a saliva test done but that was a while ago, but I am sure it is still the same). I was thinking of playing with glycine+PS (800-1000 mg) at night and my noop stack (DMAE, Vinpo, Ani) plus some Theanine for the anxiety, during the day.

Damnit, I really just need to sit down with you and feed you beer in order to pick your brain. I may even bring some coveted tobacco from where I am from so we can smoke a damn nice hooka. I’ll try to find some with the Shah’s seal still on it :slight_smile:

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[quote]Caligula2008 wrote:
On the label of my piracetam, it saids that the first time should be an attack dose~ around 4-8gm, any thoughts on this?[/quote]

That’s way too much…if you do that, you may get confused and never find out how much you really need. Some people require only very small doses. I myself take 800mgs once per day in the morning first thing upon waking up. I have read that some people take half that. Start with one capsule for a couple of days, then try 1 1/2 caps, or 2 caps, etc. If you get overstimulated, cut the dose.

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well, I found out last night that a Spike Tab + public speaking = hyper gibberish and a lost audience

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[quote]middleageguy wrote:
Caligula2008 wrote:
On the label of my piracetam, it saids that the first time should be an attack dose~ around 4-8gm, any thoughts on this?

That’s way too much…if you do that, you may get confused and never find out how much you really need. Some people require only very small doses. I myself take 800mgs once per day in the morning first thing upon waking up. I have read that some people take half that. Start with one capsule for a couple of days, then try 1 1/2 caps, or 2 caps, etc. If you get overstimulated, cut the dose.
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hmmmm, I am a college student and have yet to notice an affect, this is my fourth day taking the pira, I got the stuff from americanutrtion. i usually take around 2400mg a day. I do take 40gm a vimpo each day as well. Ani and DMAE are on backorder right now so maybe I should wait for DMAE before I notice the affects? I guess I probably need to up my choline levels…
I will keep taking though, will hopefully really help w/ my work.

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[quote]Caligula2008 wrote:
middleageguy wrote:
Caligula2008 wrote:
On the label of my piracetam, it saids that the first time should be an attack dose~ around 4-8gm, any thoughts on this?

That’s way too much…if you do that, you may get confused and never find out how much you really need. Some people require only very small doses. I myself take 800mgs once per day in the morning first thing upon waking up. I have read that some people take half that. Start with one capsule for a couple of days, then try 1 1/2 caps, or 2 caps, etc. If you get overstimulated, cut the dose.

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In your case, where 2400 mgs is not working, I would try doubling the dose over a couple of days to see if that makes a difference…

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[quote]karlrichii wrote:
well, I found out last night that a Spike Tab + public speaking = hyper gibberish and a lost audience[/quote]

No surprise there, stimulants can be useful but I wouldn’t consider them a nootropic. At least not at the doses found in Spike.

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[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
karlrichii wrote:
well, I found out last night that a Spike Tab + public speaking = hyper gibberish and a lost audience

No surprise there, stimulants can be useful but I wouldn’t consider them a nootropic. At least not at the doses found in Spike. [/quote]

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Its highly possible he’s not used to the compounds in it.

I know if I haven’t had coffee for a couple days, even a cup will give me jitters.

Same with alcohol - If I haven’t had a drink in a few days, even one beer gives me a buzz.

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[quote]Wise Guy wrote:
Ghost22 wrote:
karlrichii wrote:
well, I found out last night that a Spike Tab + public speaking = hyper gibberish and a lost audience

No surprise there, stimulants can be useful but I wouldn’t consider them a nootropic. At least not at the doses found in Spike.

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Its highly possible he’s not used to the compounds in it.

I know if I haven’t had coffee for a couple days, even a cup will give me jitters.

Same with alcohol - If I haven’t had a drink in a few days, even one beer gives me a buzz.

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Yes, you do have to experiment with these things beforehand…don’t wait and take something new right before a significant event, important exam, etc.

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Ok, I’m REAAAALLLLLYYYYY trying to make sense of all this, but i just can’t. I’m trying. Really.
So can someone knowledgeable on this help me out please?
What I’m trying to improve is: concentration, focus, cognitive attributes, motivation?, creativity, memorizing and retaining information easier, mood?, overall health benefits

I’m thinking:
DMAE
Vinpo
and one of racetams(don’t really know which one)

Good? No good? Do I need anything else?
What brands do you recommend?
What amounts daily? (also give this for women as my gf won’t stop bothering me about this)
Is this realistic?
Any side effects I should expect from any of these?

EDIT: I re-read some stuff and seems that I should go with:
Vinpo 3 x 10mg ED with food
DMAE 600mg once or twice per day
aniracetam 600mg 3 x ED

I have yet to figure out which brands are good to buy in US

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[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
Ok, I’m REAAAALLLLLYYYYY trying to make sense of all this, but i just can’t. I’m trying. Really.
So can someone knowledgeable on this help me out please?
What I’m trying to improve is: concentration, focus, cognitive attributes, motivation?, creativity, memorizing and retaining information easier, mood?, overall health benefits

I’m thinking:
DMAE
Vinpo
and one of racetams(don’t really know which one)

Good? No good? Do I need anything else?
What brands do you recommend?
What amounts daily? (also give this for women as my gf won’t stop bothering me about this)
Is this realistic?
Any side effects I should expect from any of these?

EDIT: I re-read some stuff and seems that I should go with:
Vinpo 3 x 10mg ED with food
DMAE 600mg once or twice per day
aniracetam 600mg 3 x ED

I have yet to figure out which brands are good to buy in US[/quote]

I’ll PM you where I buy my racetams, very realiable and quick. I don’t really know how they stack up on price but I do know that I don’t feel bent over a barrel by their prices.

All I take is Vinpo, DMAE, Ani everyday and Oxi 2-3 times per week. (I’m a premed student I study a shitload).

I’m definitely sharper for it. I get no side effects, you may be different, everyone has their own biochemistry, but as I understand it if you stay with reasonable doses (which should be the same between sexes, most of the effects are targeted at the brain which shouldn’t differ too much between people) you won’t get side effects.

Overdoing it on DMAE can cause some side effects like stiff neck, headaches, etc but I’ve taken very large doses sometimes and never gotten problems.

I would space out the DMAE.

Let me know if you want me to PM you the brands of Vinpo and DMAE I use, but they’re nothing special and easily found on the net.

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Also, just post here if you didn’t get my PM, I know they can be kinda screwy on the site sometimes.

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Running Power Drive, extra 500mg of DMAE and Ginko 120mg right now.

Loving it. I’m really liking the Ginko - I seem to respond to it well. I’m noticing its overall ability to dilate versus vinpo which is cerebral only.

I may stack the two down the road.

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I’m pretty sure the vinpocetine is not as effective as when I first started using it. Noticed a big effect at first, well the first couple of days got pretty tired as soon as I took it, but after that was great. Still currently only taking 10mg 3 times a day, should I increase the dosage or perhaps just take all 3 in one hit in the morning? Is this safe to do? I didn’t think you could build a tollerence to it.

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BBB why didn’t you responded my PM? the exam thing is so fukin’ important for me these days you know… :frowning:

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[quote]imagination wrote:
I’m pretty sure the vinpocetine is not as effective as when I first started using it. Noticed a big effect at first, well the first couple of days got pretty tired as soon as I took it, but after that was great. Still currently only taking 10mg 3 times a day, should I increase the dosage or perhaps just take all 3 in one hit in the morning? Is this safe to do? I didn’t think you could build a tollerence to it.[/quote]

Just because you don’t “feel” it’s effects physically, doesn’t mean it’s not working.

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[quote]imagination wrote:
I’m pretty sure the vinpocetine is not as effective as when I first started using it. Noticed a big effect at first, well the first couple of days got pretty tired as soon as I took it, but after that was great. Still currently only taking 10mg 3 times a day, should I increase the dosage or perhaps just take all 3 in one hit in the morning? Is this safe to do? I didn’t think you could build a tollerence to it.[/quote]

I think I have developed a tolerance to it after many months of daily use. I was only using 5mgs at a time, but recently stepped up to 10mgs per dose, it worked great for a few days, then it lost its effectiveness. I have quit for the past week, only taking some gingko. I may try 5mgs tonight before class again, if I do, I will report back here the results.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
middleageguy wrote:
imagination wrote:
I’m pretty sure the vinpocetine is not as effective as when I first started using it. Noticed a big effect at first, well the first couple of days got pretty tired as soon as I took it, but after that was great. Still currently only taking 10mg 3 times a day, should I increase the dosage or perhaps just take all 3 in one hit in the morning? Is this safe to do? I didn’t think you could build a tollerence to it.

I think I have developed a tolerance to it after many months of daily use. I was only using 5mgs at a time, but recently stepped up to 10mgs per dose, it worked great for a few days, then it lost its effectiveness. I have quit for the past week, only taking some gingko. I may try 5mgs tonight before class again, if I do, I will report back here the results.

Why so cautious with the dose?

BBB
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Is 30mg a day (3 x 10mg doses) too little? what can i step it up to safely? or would it be ok to take just one big dose in the morning, say 30mg at once?