[quote]RBlue wrote:
Yes, that’s why there are stalls. Any unisex bathrooms I’ve been in have ALSO had stalls.
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oH NO NO NO… I’m waiting till women go to the restroom at a ball game and find nothing but a trough.
If this thing ever happened, I guarantee this will happen:
Little girls will walk into the bathroom, look at some guys penis while he’s at the urinal and the mother/father of the girl will claim the guy is trying to show his cock to little girls. OR the guy will try to show his cock to some little girl and claim he was just pissing at the urinal (he always stands really far back). Yeah, this seems like a great idea.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
If this thing ever happened, I guarantee this will happen:
Little girls will walk into the bathroom, look at some guys penis while he’s at the urinal and the mother/father of the girl will claim the guy is trying to show his cock to little girls. OR the guy will try to show his cock to some little girl and claim he was just pissing at the urinal (he always stands really far back). Yeah, this seems like a great idea.
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My sick little head can think of a million more such scenarios. Maybe women don’t realize how perverted men are? LOL.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
If this thing ever happened, I guarantee this will happen:
Little girls will walk into the bathroom, look at some guys penis while he’s at the urinal and the mother/father of the girl will claim the guy is trying to show his cock to little girls. OR the guy will try to show his cock to some little girl and claim he was just pissing at the urinal (he always stands really far back). Yeah, this seems like a great idea.
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My sick little head can think of a million more such scenarios. Maybe women don’t realize how perverted men are? LOL. [/quote]
Speak for yourselves guys. I am going to go use the stall. Make sure the walls go all the way to the floor and the door locks. You know little kids are going to stick their head under the stall walls if they do not go to the floor.
On a possibly related note: anyone notice that women seem more likely to eschew boundaries? I’ve noticed this among my female friends. I wonder why? I know I strike them as a bit strange: because, personally, I maintain a ton of boundaries everywhere, more than most of my male friends.
This even extends politically: most men I know want our borders protected or even sealed; many women I know don’t see national boundaries as that important, etc. Just my own little observation.
Another thing: if what is erotic is “transgressing boundaries” - what happens if we no longer have any boundaries?
LOL…methinks I have too much time on my hands.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
If this thing ever happened, I guarantee this will happen:
Little girls will walk into the bathroom, look at some guys penis while he’s at the urinal and the mother/father of the girl will claim the guy is trying to show his cock to little girls. OR the guy will try to show his cock to some little girl and claim he was just pissing at the urinal (he always stands really far back). Yeah, this seems like a great idea.
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My sick little head can think of a million more such scenarios. Maybe women don’t realize how perverted men are? LOL. [/quote]
Speak for yourselves guys. I am going to go use the stall. Make sure the walls go all the way to the floor and the door locks. You know little kids are going to stick their head under the stall walls if they do not go to the floor.[/quote]
LOL!
[quote]RBlue wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]RBlue wrote:
What’s the big deal? In residence, we had unisex bathrooms/showers. The world did not implode, and no women felt their ‘dignity’ was undermined. When it’s all said and done, women and men all shit, piss, and clean themselves (or at least, most clean themselves); why is it so important to have separate rooms for them to do it in?
Somewhat on-topic story: When I was in the 2nd grade, the school I attended was a small one, with the only bathrooms in the basement - the girls on one side, the boys on the other. I got detention once for daring to set foot on the boys’ side (literally ‘set foot’; I took one foot, and stepped across the dividing line).[/quote]
Just because you do not wish to have dignity does not mean others do not. Out of the half dozen girls I have talked to about this, they have all said that they would not feel comfortable with men in their bathrooms while they were going to the bathroom, most even turn on the water if there is a possibility there is a man outside the door.
As well, I do not think that parents or myself would feel comfortable having little girls coming into the bathroom when I whip out my cock to take a piss at the urinal. I am not shy, however I can attempt to believe that it is no appropriate for little girls to be subjected to that. If a guy is in the bathroom and sees my cock, different, he has one, little girls do not.[/quote]
Pretending women are something they are not (creatures that, like men, use bathrooms) is not dignity. It strikes me a ridiculous that a grown woman would be so hung up on peeing that she would run some water to hide the fact. That is incredibly fucked IMO. What kind of princesses do you hang with?[/quote]
Women that have class, I guess. How about this, since it is such a problem that a man would care about a woman enough to respect her privacy while she does something that should be private. I, as a man, do not want women to come into my sanctuary of repulse. Yes, I understand women take defecate and eliminate waste just like men, however I do not want to see it, as I do not want to see another man do it.
Further on my comment on privacy, if the act is not supposed to have some level of privacy why are there stales, why don’t we just do the whole shebang and just line all sides of the bathroom with toilets sans stales and do it in public. Why even go into a room, just set up next to a tree with some wipes and shit in public. Hell, why even go outside, no privacy right, just put a bin in every room, in the corner, and just push away in class, at work.
Oh, yeah we used to do that when we weren’t as civilized, great so we are going backwards now. So much for progress. Old ideas said to be new.
We are civilized, there is a difference between necessity like animals, and knowing what’s proper and doing it. Why do people have such difficulty doing what is right, because it is right.[/quote]
Dignity? Class? Civilized? What a fucking joke.
Yes, the act is supposed to have some level of privacy. Yes, that’s why there are stalls. Any unisex bathrooms I’ve been in have ALSO had stalls. Hence, they’ve ALSO had that same level of privacy.
Does it make you feel like a big man to attack my character, simply because I disagree about this being problematic?
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Sweetie, I never replied to you so how would I possibly attack your character. How will you justify saying that someone that feels they should have dignity and privacy, especially from the opposite sex while going to the bathroom is a fucking joke? You are going to force them to use something that all people should be able to use and make it uncomfortable for them?
Well since people’s opinion on bathrooms are set, what about locker rooms they go along with the package. So, now you have no privacy to get dressed or not.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]RBlue wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]RBlue wrote:
What’s the big deal? In residence, we had unisex bathrooms/showers. The world did not implode, and no women felt their ‘dignity’ was undermined. When it’s all said and done, women and men all shit, piss, and clean themselves (or at least, most clean themselves); why is it so important to have separate rooms for them to do it in?
Somewhat on-topic story: When I was in the 2nd grade, the school I attended was a small one, with the only bathrooms in the basement - the girls on one side, the boys on the other. I got detention once for daring to set foot on the boys’ side (literally ‘set foot’; I took one foot, and stepped across the dividing line).[/quote]
Just because you do not wish to have dignity does not mean others do not. Out of the half dozen girls I have talked to about this, they have all said that they would not feel comfortable with men in their bathrooms while they were going to the bathroom, most even turn on the water if there is a possibility there is a man outside the door.
As well, I do not think that parents or myself would feel comfortable having little girls coming into the bathroom when I whip out my cock to take a piss at the urinal. I am not shy, however I can attempt to believe that it is no appropriate for little girls to be subjected to that. If a guy is in the bathroom and sees my cock, different, he has one, little girls do not.[/quote]
Pretending women are something they are not (creatures that, like men, use bathrooms) is not dignity. It strikes me a ridiculous that a grown woman would be so hung up on peeing that she would run some water to hide the fact. That is incredibly fucked IMO. What kind of princesses do you hang with?[/quote]
Women that have class, I guess. How about this, since it is such a problem that a man would care about a woman enough to respect her privacy while she does something that should be private. I, as a man, do not want women to come into my sanctuary of repulse. Yes, I understand women take defecate and eliminate waste just like men, however I do not want to see it, as I do not want to see another man do it.
Further on my comment on privacy, if the act is not supposed to have some level of privacy why are there stales, why don’t we just do the whole shebang and just line all sides of the bathroom with toilets sans stales and do it in public. Why even go into a room, just set up next to a tree with some wipes and shit in public. Hell, why even go outside, no privacy right, just put a bin in every room, in the corner, and just push away in class, at work.
Oh, yeah we used to do that when we weren’t as civilized, great so we are going backwards now. So much for progress. Old ideas said to be new.
We are civilized, there is a difference between necessity like animals, and knowing what’s proper and doing it. Why do people have such difficulty doing what is right, because it is right.[/quote]
Dignity? Class? Civilized? What a fucking joke.
Yes, the act is supposed to have some level of privacy. Yes, that’s why there are stalls. Any unisex bathrooms I’ve been in have ALSO had stalls. Hence, they’ve ALSO had that same level of privacy.
Does it make you feel like a big man to attack my character, simply because I disagree about this being problematic?
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Sweetie, I never replied to you so how would I possibly attack your character. How will you justify saying that someone that feels they should have dignity and privacy, especially from the opposite sex while going to the bathroom is a fucking joke? You are going to force them to use something that all people should be able to use and make it uncomfortable for them?
Well since people’s opinion on bathrooms are set, what about locker rooms they go along with the package. So, now you have no privacy to get dressed or not.[/quote]
I’d rather have SOME privacy along side people of my own sex than have extreme privacy with both sexes.
It begs the question, why fix what isn’t broken?
Ah yes, I forgot the USA is paralysed by fear of pedophiles lurking behind every corner. You do realise that most child abuse is carried out by relatives? If you are concerned about your kids seeing some guy expose themselves, would you let your little boy go to the toilet alone?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Sweetie…[/quote]
This makes you sound like a complete tit.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Sweetie, I never replied to you so how would I possibly attack your character.[/quote]
I see you’re breaking out the patronizing, now. Big, smart man needs to talk down to insolent woman.
Take a closer look. This:
was a direct reply to my post. And pretty obviously a passive-aggressive attack of my character - oh, sorry, my ‘dignity’.
Forgive me; the fucking joke is your choice of words and rhetoric to justify your claims.
And again, there are stalls in these unisex bathrooms, so privacy exists.
I went to a bar last Friday and the woman’s bathroom had a long line, while the guys did not, so girls started using the men’s bathroom. As one of the girls was walking out a guy stopped her and demanded her to flash him as compensation for using the men’s bathroom, unfortunately he got slapped; that ungrateful bitch.
[quote]playmaker08 wrote:
I went to a bar last Friday and the woman’s bathroom had a long line, while the guys did not, so girls started using the men’s bathroom. As one of the girls was walking out a guy stopped her and demanded her to flash him as compensation for using the men’s bathroom, unfortunately he got slapped; that ungrateful bitch.[/quote]
Technically, to be fair, he should have demanded that she squat and piss in front of him.
Hey anyone want some Brownies?
I have a feeling there would be more glory holes if this happened. Just a thought.
This will probably just make a good deal of people uncomfortable. At least the bathroom thing will. The locker room thing is freaking hilarious. Most of the time I don’t even want to be in the male locker room. Not to mention the prevailing Christian mentality towards sexuality in the US. Christians tend to like the idea of “decency.” It varies, but it’s a general principle I have seen held by a lot of religious folks.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]RBlue wrote:
Yes, that’s why there are stalls. Any unisex bathrooms I’ve been in have ALSO had stalls.
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oH NO NO NO… I’m waiting till women go to the restroom at a ball game and find nothing but a trough.[/quote]
I’m usually drunk at games, so I do not care as much. But usually the lines in the men’s bathrooms are shorter then the women’s, and most of the time no line at the stalls, so I always see a few women come into the men’s bathroom to use the shitters or to have a little ball park romance in the bathroom.
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
Ah yes, I forgot the USA is paralysed by fear of pedophiles lurking behind every corner. You do realise that most child abuse is carried out by relatives? If you are concerned about your kids seeing some guy expose themselves, would you let your little boy go to the toilet alone?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Sweetie…[/quote]
This makes you sound like a complete tit.[/quote]
Why because I used a term of endearment? Get over your self-righteousness. Same thing if I said sport, or brother to a man, or a woman said Hun to you or me, I would not take offense, I would see it as a term of endearment.
[quote]RBlue wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Sweetie, I never replied to you so how would I possibly attack your character.[/quote]
I see you’re breaking out the patronizing, now. Big, smart man needs to talk down to insolent woman.
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What? Like I said → Sweetie is a term of endearment, trying to defuse any tension. I am not trying to be condescending, maybe having a gracious manner, if you felt that I was being condescending my apologies, not my intentions.
Was not the statement you quoted, so I assumed you thought the one you quoted was to you. It was not a passive-aggressive anything. If I remember correctly you said something about dignity not being undermined, last time I checked dignity is one of those relative terms were only the person can tell. Just like some women do not feel their dignity is tarnished when having premarital sexual intercourse and others do.
I am not sure why I am arguing about dignity and all that. I am, also, not sure why the government is trying to regulate this anyway, violation of private property and freedom as far as I can see. It is up the businesses how they want to regulate who goes into what rooms.
Having public bathrooms in a business, for personal use, is not a right, so not having them is not hurting anyone, it is actually benefiting them for no cost. Business should be able to regulate them as they wish.
[quote]forlife wrote:
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
You either would have to be insane, or perverted, or seriously out of touch with your sexuality to take this seriously.
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You do realize this is the norm in Europe, right? At least, it was the case in Paris a few years back.
Not that I like the idea, but it’s a stretch to call it “insane” or “perverted”.[/quote]
Europe itself is a toilet. Why people make arguments about something being OK by what happens in that small section of the world is beyond me. I mean that beyond this thread
[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
[quote]forlife wrote:
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
You either would have to be insane, or perverted, or seriously out of touch with your sexuality to take this seriously.
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You do realize this is the norm in Europe, right? At least, it was the case in Paris a few years back.
Not that I like the idea, but it’s a stretch to call it “insane” or “perverted”.[/quote]
Europe itself is a toilet. Why people make arguments about something being OK by what happens in that small section of the world is beyond me. I mean that beyond this thread
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It’s bullshit anyway. There may be a few bathrooms like that that see huge use - but they are massively patroled; and anyway, it’s certainly not in any way the norm. If anything, btw, in France gender distinctions are even more fiercely maintained and defended.