There are Democrats claiming that the sequester cuts had something to do with “security concerns.”
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.[/quote]
Why not find out where their family lives and bomb them? Then, go about our lives as if it never happened. Eye for an Eye.
I am very angry about this situation. I don’t want justice, in what Obama would call justice, I want revenge, what us hillbillies and the mafia think revenge is.[/quote]
First you need to know who did it. If it was a Muslim terrorist group then that revenge mindset, what Sicilians call vendetta, is not really going to work as far as fixing the problem and preventing future attacks. That mentality does not prevent blood feuds but only causes them and keeps them going. Revenge is their game, it’s their playing field.
They are OK with it because they understand it, live it, maybe even love it. If it were possible to kill them all then maybe it would work but that won’t happen.
You don’t want Obama’s justice but an eye for an eye. Who exactly gave the order to kill Usama? [/quote]
This is a discussion for PWI, and we have covered this extensively. Obama gave that order reluctantly not with the power you think he did.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.[/quote]
Why not find out where their family lives and bomb them? Then, go about our lives as if it never happened. Eye for an Eye.
I am very angry about this situation. I don’t want justice, in what Obama would call justice, I want revenge, what us hillbillies and the mafia think revenge is.[/quote]
I understand. But I am talking about what Joe Q. Public can do.
There’s an almost funny video from Sderot (Israel) where the arabs sent a rocket and it hits a gas station — people filling up, that sort of thing.
People take shelter and the wounded away, but IMMEDIATELY — as in 15 minutes — fill in the hole, clean up the broken glasss, and open the pumps and are back in business like nothing happened.
THAT’s what John Q. Public can do.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
First you need to know who did it. If it was a Muslim terrorist group then that revenge mindset, what Sicilians call vendetta, is not really going to work as far as fixing the problem and preventing future attacks. That mentality does not prevent blood feuds but only causes them and keeps them going. Revenge is their game, it’s their playing field.
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That’s actually not true. It’s not “about revenge.” They want things and see terrorism as a means of getting what they want – abandonment of Israel, the USA to stop preventing them from taking over the the Gulf States, etc.
Any revenge motivation is incidental.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The bombs found resemble those used in Afghanistan and the Middle East, pressure cookers with nails and BB pellets inside them. [/quote]
Yeah, it’s easier to make ---- you don’t have to transfer the explosive and you have a ready-made pressure-containing vessel to convert what is realy a “fast burn with its own oxidizer” into an explosion. Even a handy hole for the wire to the detonator.
Leaning towards thermite right now (which you can buy in quanity).
[quote]pat wrote:
The failure or success of this attack will ultimately be decided on how we react. If we react out of fear sacrificing more liberty for the sake of security then the terrorists won. If we stay the course, understanding that with liberty comes an inherent vulnerability but choose not to live in fear, then we win. The casualties of the act are just the first phase, the goal is to have us live in fear. I choose not to. Let’s get the bastards and make them live in fear.[/quote]
You’re in the USA and you honestly believe they wont enjoy taking more liberties with some fancy new powers?
More excuse to earn money, someone out there is thinking it right now.
I think we as a country need a serious discussion on our rights to purchase pressure cookers.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I think we as a country need a serious discussion on our rights to purchase pressure cookers. [/quote]
And Cell Phones
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I think we as a country need a serious discussion on our rights to purchase pressure cookers. [/quote]
I never heard of that used in bomb-making prior to today. Apparently used in Pakistan and other Mideast crackpot venues. I must say, a stroke of demented genius since (prior to the bombing) that can be obtained at any thrift store, garage sale or store without attracting attention.
Rob
[quote]pgtips wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]pgtips wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]pgtips wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.[/quote]
Why not find out where their family lives and bomb them? Then, go about our lives as if it never happened. Eye for an Eye.
I am very angry about this situation. I don’t want justice, in what Obama would call justice, I want revenge, what us hillbillies and the mafia think revenge is.[/quote]
Why punish their family when they are the ones who done nothing? [/quote]
And the people who were just standing around yesterday did something wrong?
It is a point to be made. You do something like this we will take out your family. Got it k’pish.[/quote]
I see where your’e coming from, and I think the perpetrators should die, but killing innocents just because they (whoever done it) killed innocents… don’t really add up and brings you right down to their level which is dirty, filthy inhuman monsters.
Dunno where I’ve read or heard this before but “An eye for an eye will make the world blind”
Ã??Ã?¢??Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.Ã??Ã?¢??
�?�¢?? Friedrich Nietzsche [/quote]
Us standing around being nice does not seem to work very well. Monsters understand force and power. I am angry right now, and this will subside, but right now I want to rip that MF arms off. Would prefer to do it in front of his mother.[/quote]
It’s Fair enough to be angry man, but killing the killers family will mean then that whomever killed the killers family should then, in turn, have their family killed. It’s a viscious circle and as was pointed out earlier, by a man who has first hand experience of this kind of horror, the best revenge is to mourn the dead and carry on.[/quote]
I agree. Growing up in Northern Ireland, you hear a lot of talk about getting vengeance on the other side. It is almost exactly what they want, they want you to lose your cool and lash out. As has been stated elsewhere in this thread you should mourn and move on. Such ideologies thrive on force being used against them. Eye for an eye acts as a damn recruitment drive for them.
Aside from that. My thoughts are with all those affected, whatever comfort that offers.
Fuck all these people arguing about this.
Once again - for my Boston guys out there, we down here know how you feel. We been there.
It may be a different disaster but I think this clip still applies here. Don’t watch it if you’re somewhere where some tears might embarrass you…
I don’t think it was state sponsored at all. First, the time is suspect. For HUGE impact, it would have been at the time of the first finishers. To occur that late, 4 hours after the start… Thankfully only 3 casualties. I haven’t heard how many hurt.
Not saying it was amateurish, but it doesn’t seem to be ultra high tech either. Not sure.
I am guessing it is a small group, like 2, young men, or one solo, mid 20’s, angry, attached to some fringe group, be it domestic terrorists, religious whack jobs… Don’t really accept that it was due to Israel independence day. More likely a tax day thing, an anniversary of all the other domestic crap like ruby ridge, waco, etc…or just because it was a big crowd.
I’m not hearing much, but that is probably by design.
Also, the statement that once placed under arrest, the medical expenses are incurred by the police…Is this true?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
There are Democrats claiming that the sequester cuts had something to do with “security concerns.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/boston-marathon-bombing-congress-reacts-90136.html[/quote]
They live by the motto “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” I wouldn’t expect anything less of them.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Fuck all these people arguing about this.
Once again - for my Boston guys out there, we down here know how you feel. We been there.
It may be a different disaster but I think this clip still applies here. Don’t watch it if you’re somewhere where some tears might embarrass you…
Thank you
Really, thank you
Envelope carrying Ricin sent to Mississippi Republican Senator Roger Wicker was intercepted.
oh look who showed up
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
oh look who showed up[/quote]
how have those people not all been killed yet?
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
oh look who showed up[/quote]
how have those people not all been killed yet? [/quote]
These people have no shame.
The Westboro Baptist people are so nuts that I don’t even get angry about them anymore.
I mean like if you see a guy across the street giving you the finger so you run across to confront him, then you see that he’s sort of touched and his poor mom has to come out of the store and apologize for her son’s behavior and you walk away feeling back to normal and actaully a little sad for the poor mother.
I’d still love for the Westboro Baptist people to all be struck dead by lightining though. Happier than anything.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I’d still love for the Westboro Baptist people to all be struck dead by lightining though. Happier than anything.[/quote]
It’d be funnier is someone shot them as, due to their belief in a. God’s omnipotence b. All people who suffer wrongful death being in hell, any murderer would not only have consigned them to hell, he would also be God’s agent.