Boston Marathon Bomb

Loolu · April 16, 2013, 11:15am

I just read a report that some runner after running the marthon, then ran to the hospital to donate blood. It makes you proud to be human.

cstratton2 · April 16, 2013, 11:38am

[quote]Makavali wrote:
So I get that people are probably angry and upset… so…

[quote][i]Boston. F***ing horrible.

I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, ‘Well, I’ve had it with humanity.’

But I was wrong. I don’t know what’s going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.

But here’s what I DO know. If it’s one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). Thisis a giant planet and we’re lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they’re pointed towards darkness.

But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We’d have eaten ourselves alive long ago.

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, ‘The good outnumber you, and we always will.’[/i][/quote]

Read and absorb. I find it helps.[/quote]

Wasnt it Ghandi who said Ã¢??You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is like an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.Ã¢??

Thanks for posting that by the way, I have not really seen the world as any specific viewpoint for sometime, however for a bit of time now I have been walking in the complete darkness and am trying to reach out to the light already myself.

pgtips · April 16, 2013, 12:22pm

[quote]therajraj wrote:
HOLY FUCK[/quote]

The site of this makes me feel physically sick. The thought of one of my loved ones being caught in a blast like that makes me want to cry, kill, be killed and hide from the world all at once.

pat · April 16, 2013, 2:11pm

The failure or success of this attack will ultimately be decided on how we react. If we react out of fear sacrificing more liberty for the sake of security then the terrorists won. If we stay the course, understanding that with liberty comes an inherent vulnerability but choose not to live in fear, then we win. The casualties of the act are just the first phase, the goal is to have us live in fear. I choose not to. Let’s get the bastards and make them live in fear.

Jewbacca · April 16, 2013, 4:15pm

Random points:

The guy on top of the building is probably a dead end. Watching sporting events from the top of buildings in Boston is a local tradition. You are free of cops and crowds, can drink beer and BBQ, and there is generally a nice sea breeze. I used to do this all the top, and watched everything from the Head of the Charles race, to the marathon, to Red Sox games, to the Boston Pops July 4 celebration at various peoples’ houses.
I’ve been in a total of one explosion (inside a bus). I was not burned, but hit with scrapnel, as was my wife, who was killed. The only persons burned (in my incident) was the suicide bomber and the bus driver who tackled the bomber as he got on. So the guy with burns is a pretty good suspect, IMHO.
I have seen lots of bombs go off from living in Gush. (We used to get shelled a fair amount.) Shells use high explsoives. They have a real “fast” fireball and are brightly colored. I’ve watched the explosion. It’s kind of slow and the smoke is real white. That indicates to me that it was home made or used some sort of low-explosive (e.g., gun powder you get at any sporting goods store).
The event was done for publicity, or the terrorist(s) is/are idiots. If you want casualties you blow something up in an enclosed space (e.g., a T station, T-train, or a bus). The roof and walls capture the explosion and push it down. Outside like this, a lot of the force just goes “up” and the rest travels along the ground. (This is why most of the injuries are leg-related.) In short, this was done for “effect” not for casualties, per se. Or the terrorists are stupid.
The leg-related injuries are also indicative of something blocking/shaping the explosion, like a cement trashcan. If I recall, the ones in Boston have an open bottom and top. This would re-enforce the natural direction of the explosion to go up and down.
The explosions went off after most of the crowds left because the leaders were already back in the hotels drinking beer. This could be accidental or done to minimize casualties.
I am still leaning on the Israel Independence/Memorial Day connection. This is personal bias, but there were all sorts of calls by imans to attack on this day. (The fact that it landed on 4/15 is coincidental to how the Jewish calendar works vs. the Roman solar calendar that is the secular calendar.) Obviously, this is pure speculation.

I am very sorry this is happening here. Terrorists suck. The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.

Jewbacca · April 16, 2013, 4:35pm

FWIW, Gaza?s Jihadiya Salafia (al-quada) is taking credit. Apparently, there have been some arrests in Pakistan and Afganistan.

I can post the link, but it’s in Hebrew. I assume the Jerusalem Post or something in English will pick this up and I will post a link then.

They sometimes take credit for a things they don’t do, so take this with a grain of salt.

pgtips · April 16, 2013, 4:37pm

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Random points:

The guy on top of the building is probably a dead end. Watching sporting events from the top of buildings in Boston is a local tradition. You are free of cops and crowds, can drink beer and BBQ, and there is generally a nice sea breeze. I used to do this all the top, and watched everything from the Head of the Charles race, to the marathon, to Red Sox games, to the Boston Pops July 4 celebration at various peoples’ houses.
I’ve been in a total of one explosion (inside a bus). I was not burned, but hit with scrapnel, as was my wife, who was killed. The only persons burned (in my incident) was the suicide bomber and the bus driver who tackled the bomber as he got on. So the guy with burns is a pretty good suspect, IMHO.
I have seen lots of bombs go off from living in Gush. (We used to get shelled a fair amount.) Shells use high explsoives. They have a real “fast” fireball and are brightly colored. I’ve watched the explosion. It’s kind of slow and the smoke is real white. That indicates to me that it was home made or used some sort of low-explosive (e.g., gun powder you get at any sporting goods store).
The event was done for publicity, or the terrorist(s) is/are idiots. If you want casualties you blow something up in an enclosed space (e.g., a T station, T-train, or a bus). The roof and walls capture the explosion and push it down. Outside like this, a lot of the force just goes “up” and the rest travels along the ground. (This is why most of the injuries are leg-related.) In short, this was done for “effect” not for casualties, per se. Or the terrorists are stupid.
The leg-related injuries are also indicative of something blocking/shaping the explosion, like a cement trashcan. If I recall, the ones in Boston have an open bottom and top. This would re-enforce the natural direction of the explosion to go up and down.
The explosions went off after most of the crowds left because the leaders were already back in the hotels drinking beer. This could be accidental or done to minimize casualties.
I am still leaning on the Israel Independence/Memorial Day connection. This is personal bias, but there were all sorts of calls by imans to attack on this day. (The fact that it landed on 4/15 is coincidental to how the Jewish calendar works vs. the Roman solar calendar that is the secular calendar.) Obviously, this is pure speculation.

I am very sorry this is happening here. Terrorists suck. The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.[/quote]

Dude, point 2… I’m sorry to hear that, that must have been / be such a hard thing to deal with.

dmaddox · April 16, 2013, 4:45pm

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.[/quote]

Why not find out where their family lives and bomb them? Then, go about our lives as if it never happened. Eye for an Eye.

I am very angry about this situation. I don’t want justice, in what Obama would call justice, I want revenge, what us hillbillies and the mafia think revenge is.

csulli · April 16, 2013, 4:47pm

[quote]pgtips wrote:
Dude, point 2… I’m sorry to hear that, that must have been / be such a hard thing to deal with.[/quote]
I read what he said about it somewhere else before. It’s even worse than you think.

pgtips · April 16, 2013, 4:50pm

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.[/quote]

Why not find out where their family lives and bomb them? Then, go about our lives as if it never happened. Eye for an Eye.

I am very angry about this situation. I don’t want justice, in what Obama would call justice, I want revenge, what us hillbillies and the mafia think revenge is.[/quote]

Why punish their family when they are the ones who done nothing?

MaximusB · April 16, 2013, 4:53pm

Jewbacca,

In reference to your point #2, I cannot even comprehend that.

My deepest condolences my friend.

The bombs found resemble those used in Afghanistan and the Middle East, pressure cookers with nails and BB pellets inside them.

dmaddox · April 16, 2013, 4:55pm

[quote]pgtips wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.[/quote]

Why not find out where their family lives and bomb them? Then, go about our lives as if it never happened. Eye for an Eye.

I am very angry about this situation. I don’t want justice, in what Obama would call justice, I want revenge, what us hillbillies and the mafia think revenge is.[/quote]

Why punish their family when they are the ones who done nothing? [/quote]

And the people who were just standing around yesterday did something wrong?

It is a point to be made. You do something like this we will take out your family. Got it k’pish.

pgtips · April 16, 2013, 5:03pm

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pgtips wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

The best revenge is to mourn your dead and go about your life as if it never happened.[/quote]

Why not find out where their family lives and bomb them? Then, go about our lives as if it never happened. Eye for an Eye.

I am very angry about this situation. I don’t want justice, in what Obama would call justice, I want revenge, what us hillbillies and the mafia think revenge is.[/quote]

Why punish their family when they are the ones who done nothing? [/quote]

And the people who were just standing around yesterday did something wrong?

It is a point to be made. You do something like this we will take out your family. Got it k’pish.[/quote]

I see where your’e coming from, and I think the perpetrators should die, but killing innocents just because they (whoever done it) killed innocents… don’t really add up and brings you right down to their level which is dirty, filthy inhuman monsters.

Dunno where I’ve read or heard this before but “An eye for an eye will make the world blind”

â??Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.â??

â?? Friedrich Nietzsche

dmaddox · April 16, 2013, 5:05pm