[quote]therajraj wrote:
I’m not a ‘truther’ by any means but I am wondering about something.
He shot himself in throat right? If that’s the case, why is there a photo of him climbing out of the boat looking completely unharmed?
I don’t get it.[/quote]
“Completely unharmed?” How do you get that out of a blurry partial photo of the guy? You can’t see his throat, and a throat wound isn’t likely to stop anyone from getting out of a boat. I wonder if that’s blood on his lower torso…
[quote]nrt wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I’m not a ‘truther’ by any means but I am wondering about something.
He shot himself in throat right? If that’s the case, why is there a photo of him climbing out of the boat looking completely unharmed?
I don’t get it.[/quote]
“Completely unharmed?” How do you get that out of a blurry partial photo of the guy? You can’t see his throat, and a throat wound isn’t likely to stop anyone from getting out of a boat. I wonder if that’s blood on his lower torso…[/quote]
Relative to reports are suggesting, yes.
It seems to me it would be quite difficult to climb out of a boat right after you take a bullet point blank through the throat.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]nrt wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I’m not a ‘truther’ by any means but I am wondering about something.
He shot himself in throat right? If that’s the case, why is there a photo of him climbing out of the boat looking completely unharmed?
I don’t get it.[/quote]
“Completely unharmed?” How do you get that out of a blurry partial photo of the guy? You can’t see his throat, and a throat wound isn’t likely to stop anyone from getting out of a boat. I wonder if that’s blood on his lower torso…[/quote]
Relative to reports are suggesting, yes.
It seems to me it would be quite difficult to climb out of a boat right after you take a bullet point blank through the throat.
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How do we know he is climbing out, and climbing out for the final time, and that a gunfight or accident didn’t happen after this?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
How do we know he is climbing out, [/quote]
Well it appears that there is a light being flashed upon him and there’s a pic being taken… If you look at how they found him, they took aerial pictures that picked up his body heat or whatever. Check the link I posted in the previous page.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
and climbing out for the final time, and that a gunfight or accident didn’t happen after this?[/quote]
They said he shot himself by putting a gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger. Was there even a final gun battle reported? I don’t think so
[quote]therajraj wrote:
if you believe your government wouldn’t use you as collateral damage, use a situation to manipulate you through their bought and paid for media outlets to disolve your rights from under your nose, well, I have a bridge I can sell you."
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whether you believe the conspiracy or not, this is true
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Was there even a final gun battle reported? I don’t think so
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Yes.
Check the WSJ today (or yesterday can’t remember) the boat has about 200 more bullet holes in it than the pic you posted.
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Yes, because we think of Americans as loud, uncultured and with an over exaggerated gun ho attitude to everything.
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Everything except exercise, lol.
Former brother-in-law Elmirza Khozhugov explains Tamerlan Tsarnaev?s (the bomber’s) grievances to the New York Times:
“He was angry that the world pictures Islam as a violent religion.”
So he blew up an eight-year old boy and a couple of hundred other Americans.
And now the media are full of stories about how the Tsarnaevs were all-American kids and ?beautiful, beautiful boys? and maybe it was the boxing or the Ben Affleck movies or the classical music but, whatever it was, it was nothing to do with Islam. Nothing whatever.
So I guess it worked.
(Credit to Mark Steyn)
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
And now the media are full of stories about how the Tsarnaevs were all-American kids and ?beautiful, beautiful boys? and maybe it was the boxing or the Ben Affleck movies or the classical music but, whatever it was, it was nothing to do with Islam. Nothing whatever.
So I guess it worked.
(Credit to Mark Steyn)
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Been having this conversation else where today, and frankly I’m tired of the palace guard media trying to paint these monsters as humans. They aren’t. I don’t care, ultimately, what god they pray to, it doesn’t really matter. The ties to terror groups are there with or without religion.
I don’t know if it is politcal, PC or what is driving the editors of these papers and websites to push this narrative, but it is wrong, and isn’t going to end well.
I hate the medai says things like they ate at fast food places just like we do and saw movies just like we do and all that…what stupid stuff to say.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I hate the medai says things like they ate at fast food places just like we do and saw movies just like we do and all that…what stupid stuff to say.[/quote]
Agreed. It is the normalization of irrational behavior, which ends up giving these animals celebrity status.
They are pushing, and pushing this “they are humans, normal people, we should have empathy for them” (even though as normal people we could never have empathy for someone that would mass murder innocents) narrative.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I hate the medai says things like they ate at fast food places just like we do and saw movies just like we do and all that…what stupid stuff to say.[/quote]
Well they have a point…
You know…in that way, Hitler was just one of us too. He breathed air, ate food, blinked, and at one point, came out of a woman’s panooch…JUST LIKE US!
[quote]postholedigger wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I hate the medai says things like they ate at fast food places just like we do and saw movies just like we do and all that…what stupid stuff to say.[/quote]
Well they have a point…
You know…in that way, Hitler was just one of us too. He breathed air, ate food, blinked, and at one point, came out of a woman’s panooch…JUST LIKE US![/quote]
If today’s editors ran the times way back when
Anyone catch what the mother of these two assholes said ? …
“I think now they will try to make my Dzhokhar guilty because they took away his voice, his ability to talk to the world…they do not want the truth to come out.”
“If they are going to kill him, I don’t care,” she said, her voice quaking with anger. “My oldest one has been killed, and I don’t care. I don’t care if my youngest one is going to be killed today.”
She added, “And I don’t care if I am going to get killed too. And I will say Allahu akbar.”
[quote]Nards wrote:
I hate the medai says things like they ate at fast food places just like we do and saw movies just like we do and all that…what stupid stuff to say.[/quote]
I agree.
I really hate how they are trying to make the older brother out to be this awesome olympic-level boxer too. WTF? Plenty of guys have taken boxing lessons and had some amateur fights. I read somewhere that he lost his only fight in round 1. He sucked. Why do we have to paint a mystical olympic image of him?
I am getting tired of the ‘this is a setup’ attitude from his family as well… and now even the Uncle has come out and attempted to deflect the responsibility away from the two Tsarnevs by saying it was ‘a friend from Cambridge’…
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Anyone catch what the mother of these two assholes said ? …
“I think now they will try to make my Dzhokhar guilty because they took away his voice, his ability to talk to the world…they do not want the truth to come out.”
“If they are going to kill him, I don’t care,” she said, her voice quaking with anger. “My oldest one has been killed, and I don’t care. I don’t care if my youngest one is going to be killed today.”
She added, “And I don’t care if I am going to get killed too. And I will say Allahu akbar.”
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I think this explains a lot.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
“He was angry that the world pictures Islam as a violent religion.”
So he blew up an eight-year old boy and a couple of hundred other Americans.
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You have got to be shitin’ me.
It’s like they expect us think terrorists and plain old evil people are from another planet and drink gasoline and feel sad on sunny days and angry on sunny days or some shit. As though it’s strange that a terrorist can still have emotions like happiness or anything other than anger.
I also when reporters just go around asking people in the neighborhood or at the recent London Marathon if they feel safe now or if they are scared of another attack in the near future…the damned reported knows full well that the people will respond with optimistic answers but they keep fishing for something negative and I also think they just want to make sure that the words “Don’t feel safe/ terrorist attack/ near future” and all that are just being said at all.
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
“He was angry that the world pictures Islam as a violent religion.”
So he blew up an eight-year old boy and a couple of hundred other Americans.
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You have got to be shitin’ me.[/quote]
This is what I’m getting at, you are a rational human. Who is by all accounts well adjusted enough where your idea of “snapping” is having too many scotchs or eating 32 snickers.
No matter how smart, kind hearted or open minded you may be, you will never, nor will anyone who isn’t batshit insane, ever be able to reconcile that thought process in your mind. It will never make sense, no matter how hard you try, and if it ever does make sense, you need to have yourself locked up because you are fucking nuts.
People can talk about empathy and understanding and compasion all fucking day, but they are lying to themselves if they even remotely think they “get it” or ever will.
Out of the billions of people on Earth, there will be a couple broken ones. An unbroken person will never be able to have true empathy for a human broken like this…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I hate the medai says things like they ate at fast food places just like we do and saw movies just like we do and all that…what stupid stuff to say.[/quote]
Agreed. It is the normalization of irrational behavior, which ends up giving these animals celebrity status.
They are pushing, and pushing this “they are humans, normal people, we should have empathy for them” (even though as normal people we could never have empathy for someone that would mass murder innocents) narrative.
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That’s one way of looking at it, don’t get caught up in your own enlightenment of media subjectivity.
I look at it differently. The current emphasis on how normal they were scares me – look what a normal person, a person you could be saying “hi” to everyday, is capable of.
They were “normal” because they fit into society well, especially the younger brother (there’s an entirely different conversation on the warning signs of the older brother). How do I know you’re not batshit crazy in your head?
