[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
My God, look at those bombs![/quote]
I’d love to defuse those things.
[quote]sandos wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
What makes me mad is that the 8 year old kid wasn’t even scraped off the street yet and Chris Matthews was yelling RIGHT WING RADICALS all over the place. I would love to hit that f*cker. Why does he even have a job
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Do you think you could find and post that? I’d love to see it.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
Well they are conservatives.
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I think you are confused.[/quote]
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.[/quote]
Tyranny is not conservatism. Making your women dress up like fucking circus tents and treating them worse than most rats is not a conservative tenet.
[quote]sandos wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
What makes me mad is that the 8 year old kid wasn’t even scraped off the street yet and Chris Matthews was yelling RIGHT WING RADICALS all over the place. I would love to hit that f*cker. Why does he even have a job
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Fear not, for they are still trying to find any possible way to link this to either a right wing group, or even the NRA.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
HELL NO!!! Preach it brother.
[quote]pat wrote:
Making your women dress up like fucking circus tents.[/quote]
Bee Keepers…
[quote]postholedigger wrote:
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Check out this guy who was being interviewed about the bombing.
http://twitter.com/jane__bradley/status/325183952497283072/photo/1
See anything interesting?[/quote]
Ha![/quote]
Hopefully he does not use that on himself.[/quote]
No, he uses it on his pet chihuahua. There. Does that make you feel better?
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Whoa, bud, simmer down…
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
Well they are conservatives.
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I think you are confused.[/quote]
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.[/quote]
Because in this country, being a Conservative conjures up the images of Mitt Romney and Karl Rove.
Not exactly radical Islamists. [/quote]
Where did I equate them to the conservative party? They are very different from Christian conservatives, but both are conservative. As distasteful as it is Westboro is a conservative christian group. Different religions, almost the same the same wackiness. Minus the blowing themselves up part of course.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
Well they are conservatives.
[/quote]
I think you are confused.[/quote]
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.[/quote]
Because in this country, being a Conservative conjures up the images of Mitt Romney and Karl Rove.
Not exactly radical Islamists. [/quote]
Where did I equate them to the conservative party? They are very different from Christian conservatives, but both are conservative. As distasteful as it is Westboro is a conservative christian group. Different religions, almost the same the same wackiness. Minus the blowing themselves up part of course.
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I agree, but I am speaking within the realm of politics.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
Well they are conservatives.
[/quote]
I think you are confused.[/quote]
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.[/quote]
Radical muslims preach of form of state-ownership, essentially a religious socialism.
It’s pretty much the opposite of small-government conservatism (which would have been called “classic liberalism” back in the day).[/quote]
Aren’t most religions socialist to a degree, even though they preach social conservatism? Feeding the poor ect… One of the few redeeming qualities IMO.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
Well they are conservatives.
[/quote]
I think you are confused.[/quote]
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.[/quote]
Tyranny is not conservatism. Making your women dress up like fucking circus tents and treating them worse than most rats is not a conservative tenet.[/quote]
I believe you mean Christian tenet. And actually there have been many conservative religions that have done exactly that.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.[/quote]
Radical muslims preach of form of state-ownership, essentially a religious socialism.
It’s pretty much the opposite of small-government conservatism (which would have been called “classic liberalism” back in the day).[/quote]
Aren’t most religions socialist to a degree, even though they preach social conservatism? Feeding the poor ect… One of the few redeeming qualities IMO.
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You are confusing being charitable with state ownership and control.
They have nothing to do with each other, except that socialism uses forced redistribution as a means of controling the less fortunate and harming political enemies of the state.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.
Radical muslims preach of form of state-ownership, essentially a religious socialism.
It’s pretty much the opposite of small-government conservatism (which would have been called “classic liberalism” back in the day).
Aren’t most religions socialist to a degree, even though they preach social conservatism? Feeding the poor ect… One of the few redeeming qualities IMO.
You are confusing being charitable with state ownership and control.
They have nothing to do with each other, except that socialism uses forced redistribution as a means of controling the less fortunate and harming political enemies of the state.[/quote]
I never mentioned conservative GOVERNMENT, you did. I am talking about being conservative as in a religious institution is conservative, to the point of preserving tradition and such.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.
Radical muslims preach of form of state-ownership, essentially a religious socialism.
It’s pretty much the opposite of small-government conservatism (which would have been called “classic liberalism” back in the day).
Aren’t most religions socialist to a degree, even though they preach social conservatism? Feeding the poor ect… One of the few redeeming qualities IMO.
You are confusing being charitable with state ownership and control.
They have nothing to do with each other, except that socialism uses forced redistribution as a means of controling the less fortunate and harming political enemies of the state.[/quote]
I never mentioned conservative GOVERNMENT, you did. I am talking about being conservative as in a religious institution is conservative, to the point of preserving tradition and such.
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It is disingenuous to compare people across vast cultural gaps using words like left, right, conservative, and liberal. Those words are relative terms and have no bearing on absolute belief. Depending on where you are from a conservative could be a socialist or an anarchist. Left and right only make sense for group labeling in a specific culture at a specific time. Much the way it is for the physical left and right, political left and right is a matter of perspective. A strong federal government (left wing) type from back in the day like Hamilton or Adams today would be to the right of the Libertarians. Hamilton and Obama are both of the “left”, though on the same stage they’d be polar opposites.
US conservatives and totalitarian Islamists share little to nothing in common in terms of actual beliefs.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.
Radical muslims preach of form of state-ownership, essentially a religious socialism.
It’s pretty much the opposite of small-government conservatism (which would have been called “classic liberalism” back in the day).
Aren’t most religions socialist to a degree, even though they preach social conservatism? Feeding the poor ect… One of the few redeeming qualities IMO.
You are confusing being charitable with state ownership and control.
They have nothing to do with each other, except that socialism uses forced redistribution as a means of controling the less fortunate and harming political enemies of the state.[/quote]
I never mentioned conservative GOVERNMENT, you did. I am talking about being conservative as in a religious institution is conservative, to the point of preserving tradition and such.
[/quote]
It is disingenuous to compare people across vast cultural gaps using words like left, right, conservative, and liberal. Those words are relative terms and have no bearing on absolute belief. Depending on where you are from a conservative could be a socialist or an anarchist. Left and right only make sense for group labeling in a specific culture at a specific time. Much the way it is for the physical left and right, political left and right is a matter of perspective. A strong federal government (left wing) type from back in the day like Hamilton or Adams today would be to the right of the Libertarians. Hamilton and Obama are both of the “left”, though on the same stage they’d be polar opposites.
US conservatives and totalitarian Islamists share little to nothing in common in terms of actual beliefs.
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I agree, but strictly speaking radical Islamist’s are by definition conservative. Sort of like calling the left in this country communists as so many on this board are inclined to do.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.
Radical muslims preach of form of state-ownership, essentially a religious socialism.
It’s pretty much the opposite of small-government conservatism (which would have been called “classic liberalism” back in the day).
Aren’t most religions socialist to a degree, even though they preach social conservatism? Feeding the poor ect… One of the few redeeming qualities IMO.
You are confusing being charitable with state ownership and control.
They have nothing to do with each other, except that socialism uses forced redistribution as a means of controling the less fortunate and harming political enemies of the state.[/quote]
I never mentioned conservative GOVERNMENT, you did. I am talking about being conservative as in a religious institution is conservative, to the point of preserving tradition and such.
[/quote]
It is disingenuous to compare people across vast cultural gaps using words like left, right, conservative, and liberal. Those words are relative terms and have no bearing on absolute belief. Depending on where you are from a conservative could be a socialist or an anarchist. Left and right only make sense for group labeling in a specific culture at a specific time. Much the way it is for the physical left and right, political left and right is a matter of perspective. A strong federal government (left wing) type from back in the day like Hamilton or Adams today would be to the right of the Libertarians. Hamilton and Obama are both of the “left”, though on the same stage they’d be polar opposites.
US conservatives and totalitarian Islamists share little to nothing in common in terms of actual beliefs.
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I agree, but strictly speaking radical Islamist’s are by definition conservative. Sort of like calling the left in this country communists as so many on this board are inclined to do.
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Not really. Correct or not, communist is a very specific list of absolute beliefs.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.
Radical muslims preach of form of state-ownership, essentially a religious socialism.
It’s pretty much the opposite of small-government conservatism (which would have been called “classic liberalism” back in the day).
Aren’t most religions socialist to a degree, even though they preach social conservatism? Feeding the poor ect… One of the few redeeming qualities IMO.
You are confusing being charitable with state ownership and control.
They have nothing to do with each other, except that socialism uses forced redistribution as a means of controling the less fortunate and harming political enemies of the state.[/quote]
I never mentioned conservative GOVERNMENT, you did. I am talking about being conservative as in a religious institution is conservative, to the point of preserving tradition and such.
[/quote]
It is disingenuous to compare people across vast cultural gaps using words like left, right, conservative, and liberal. Those words are relative terms and have no bearing on absolute belief. Depending on where you are from a conservative could be a socialist or an anarchist. Left and right only make sense for group labeling in a specific culture at a specific time. Much the way it is for the physical left and right, political left and right is a matter of perspective. A strong federal government (left wing) type from back in the day like Hamilton or Adams today would be to the right of the Libertarians. Hamilton and Obama are both of the “left”, though on the same stage they’d be polar opposites.
US conservatives and totalitarian Islamists share little to nothing in common in terms of actual beliefs.
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I agree, but strictly speaking radical Islamist’s are by definition conservative. Sort of like calling the left in this country communists as so many on this board are inclined to do.
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Not really. Correct or not, communist is a very specific list of absolute beliefs. [/quote]
I see what you are saying but when has the left in this country ever espoused that specific set of beliefs? There may be aspects of socialism that have been latched onto but to call them Communist exposes a lack of knowledge about communism.
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Authorities tell TMZ pic is authentic (fwiw): Boston Marathon Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- DEATH PHOTO SURFACES
Pic: https://twitter.com/SelfCuttingGirl/status/325302951117737984/photo/1
I would love to ask the local people who live in Boston, those who are in their homes right now, if they truly hate the NRA right now.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Wonder if any of the lefties who immediately predicted or hoped the bombers were Tea Partiers or right wing “gun nuts” will apologize? Don’t hold your breath.[/quote]
Can I get a hell no.[/quote]
Well they are conservatives.
[/quote]
I think you are confused.[/quote]
How so? Doesn’t get much more conservative than radical Islam.[/quote]
Tyranny is not conservatism. Making your women dress up like fucking circus tents and treating them worse than most rats is not a conservative tenet.[/quote]
I believe you mean Christian tenet. And actually there have been many conservative religions that have done exactly that.
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No, I meant conservative.