Book: 'Wheat Belly'

Nutrition
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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Alex Stoddard wrote:
Braggs Soy Sauce is wheat/gluten free[/quote]

you obviously dont understand. this is the greatest soy sauce i’ve ever tasted. words cannot express…[/quote]

+1 this.

Braggs’ Liquid Aminos and Bragg’s Apple Cider Vinegar are wonderous.[/quote]

What are the benefits that you’ve experienced from ACV? what’s it good for? I’ve read all different opinions and was just interested to hear about your experience.[/quote]

First and foremost, it tastes awesome. Sometimes food is about taste :slight_smile:

It’s supposedly good for insulin sensitivity (at least ACV with the mother). I do what I can to improve that. It certainly isn’t harmful and I use vinegar in salad and on vegetables, so might as well use one that tastes great and may have some benefit.

So, in the context of increasing insulin sensitivity and keeping blood sugar at a good level, dropping breads and full-time high carb intake, while taking cinnamon extract, R-ALA, and Berberine, the Bragg’s ACV fits.
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It’s extremely nutrient rich - potassium, phosphorus, fluorine, silicon, trace minerals and pectin as well as many other powerful nutrients and enzymes

Oxymel, a product which is essentially honey and ACV has been used to dissolve painful calcium deposits in body.

It’s good stuff, like you do I use it on vegetables mixed with EVOO.
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Great to know. I use it on salads from time to time, so I just wanted to hear the benefits that everyone was aware of, thanks for sharing.

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^ np

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What do you guys think of spelt pasta? The packaging says very low gluten on the front.

Also brown rice pasta tastes great.

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well…

IIFYM

Sorry…I had to. But, for real steely…I remember you being open and proud about being Italian, now you’re dissing pasta. I’m slightly heartbroken. Pasta is one of the cheapest, tastiest, satiating carb sources that I can think of…I don’t know a difference in my abs if I switch between potatoes as my carb source or pasta, truthfully. And, I feel the same physically as well.

I really think the whole gluten thing has been blown out of proportion, and I think the same about paleo.

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[quote]facko wrote:
I really think the whole gluten thing has been blown out of proportion, and I think the same about paleo.[/quote]
I hear this a lot.
Often times from individuals who constantly struggle with weight and digestive issues (maybe not for you, but milk doesn’t cause me to have cramps, that doesn’t mean lactose intolerance doesn’t exist).

You have a lot of support. Doctors think it’s non existent (gluten issue), and Paleo is a fad.
Paleo happens to be the ORIGINAL diet.

A guy I worked with was telling me about his wife’s gut “issues”. He described them, upset stomach, cramps, pains, diarrhea, etc.
Investigating these issues with medical professionals, she had 3 operations (full hysterectomy), pills, told to avoid red meat, etc. Everytime, no relief.
I told him about gluten. They did their research and started eliminating gluten the next morning. The morning following, she had her first solid bowel movement in 11 years!! Think about that!!!

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[quote]facko wrote:
well…

IIFYM

Sorry…I had to. But, for real steely…I remember you being open and proud about being Italian, now you’re dissing pasta. [/quote]

Where did I “diss pasta”?

I think if you compare my eating philosophy with many (most?) on this board, I tend to be pretty lenient saying only if you know your body and how it reacts to certain foods, then eat the ones that fit your goals and don’t make you feel like shit.

But I’ll say this-- if pasta makes me feel ill and bloats me, why would I eat it? I’ve never on these pages told anyone not to eat anything. Some people handle pasta (and wheat) just fine. Why wouldn’t they eat it if it didn’t derail their goals?

I’m all about presenting and discussing information.

In fact, in the book, the author suggests that pasta may be somewhat better than other ‘whole wheat’ because it uses durham wheat which is a little different than the typical strain of dwarf wheat used in most wheat products.

I know many of Italian descent who don’t eat pasta because it contributes to their weight and health issues. Not sure of connection. I know a lot of proud Slavics who don’t eat perogis, too.

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People have too much obsession with the consumption of wheat. There’s a million sources of complex carbs or non-complex carbs that are great and healthy for you outside of bread. Corn and sweet potato as primary examples.

Outside of that eating a few pieces of bread a day, esp some good whole wheat stuff loaded down with essential vitamins probably isn’t going to hurt anyone esp if you train a lot during the day. If you run a lot or do more than one intense sessions of lifting or activity, those carbs are going to power you through those workouts, if you are finishing your workouts better, doing more workouts because these carbs are giving you energy, hell you’ll be healthier for it.

I even eat more carbs on days when I am doing high rep squats seems to help “power” through the workouts more. Though I have noticed once you get so lean, getting leaner is easier on dramatic carb reduction.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
2. Glutamine can really help heal the gut.

BBB[/quote]

How do you suggest using it? When do you suggest taking it? and how much?

I use it, but only right upon waking or right after working out, and usually only take around 5g’s.

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[quote]IronClaws wrote:
… good whole wheat stuff loaded down with essential vitamins probably isn’t going to hurt anyone …
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The premise of the book is that with today’s ubiquitous GM’d wheat, there is no “good whole wheat”. It challenges the notion that today’s modern “whole wheat” is good.

People always parrot the phrase “good whole [grain]” like it’s universal truth not to be challenged, but 10 years ago (and still today) there are some that will swear to the death that “good whole wheat = good … whole eggs = bad”

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[quote]Alex Stoddard wrote:

You have a lot of support. Doctors think it’s non existent (gluten issue), and Paleo is a fad.
Paleo happens to be the ORIGINAL diet.

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Wow.

There is WAY too much emphasis on this paleo thing.

Look, it may/may not be “the ORIGINAL diet” (guess we’ll never know until we invent the time machine) but then again, besides the novelty factor, what exactly is “the ORIGINAL diet” gonna do for us?

Paleos, for all their touted attributes, had shorter life expectancies than ordinary human beings, lived in a far different environment and YES (this being T-Nation) generally did not possess anything close to resembling an ideal body type for anybody on this forum.

They were:
i) Shorter
ii) Had much lower life expectancy
iii) Did NOT have huge bulging muscles (would probably be considered “skinny” on here)

I’m not knocking the paleo diet and advocating gluten free for those who have intolerances or celiac is important but pushing it as the be all and end all diet for everybody with the barest of research apart from a skimpy understanding of paleo man >> modern man.

Maybe the average paleolithic was indeed fitter than the average Joe from 2011, but then again they also likely didn’t lie on the couch all day with xbox and sodas. They also walked every bloody where. To attribute all that down solely to diet seems disingenuous and unscientific.

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PS: I bought “Wheat Belly” and am halfway through reading it. It’s a decent read. Will post thoughts when done.

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
2. Glutamine can really help heal the gut.

BBB[/quote]

How do you suggest using it? When do you suggest taking it? and how much?

I use it, but only right upon waking or right after working out, and usually only take around 5g’s.[/quote]

fwiw, 5g 2x per day should be enough to heaal/maintain healthy gut lining but on another note i know some pretty big BBer’s who swear by taking 20g in their PWO shake for better recovery

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[quote]NotaQuitta wrote:

[quote]Alex Stoddard wrote:

You have a lot of support. Doctors think it’s non existent (gluten issue), and Paleo is a fad.
Paleo happens to be the ORIGINAL diet.

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Wow.

There is WAY too much emphasis on this paleo thing.

Look, it may/may not be “the ORIGINAL diet” (guess we’ll never know until we invent the time machine) but then again, besides the novelty factor, what exactly is “the ORIGINAL diet” gonna do for us?

Paleos, for all their touted attributes, had shorter life expectancies than ordinary human beings, lived in a far different environment and YES (this being T-Nation) generally did not possess anything close to resembling an ideal body type for anybody on this forum.

They were:
i) Shorter
ii) Had much lower life expectancy
iii) Did NOT have huge bulging muscles (would probably be considered “skinny” on here)

I’m not knocking the paleo diet and advocating gluten free for those who have intolerances or celiac is important but pushing it as the be all and end all diet for everybody with the barest of research apart from a skimpy understanding of paleo man >> modern man.

Maybe the average paleolithic was indeed fitter than the average Joe from 2011, but then again they also likely didn’t lie on the couch all day with xbox and sodas. They also walked every bloody where. To attribute all that down solely to diet seems disingenuous and unscientific.

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They had a lower life expectancy because they didn’t have access to modern medicine among other reasons.

They were much shorter because they didn’t consume calories anywhere near the amount the average North American does today.

There’s no single diet right for everyone, but Paleo is a good starting point.

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height varies among populations, so would the skeletal size and muscle mass of various tribes and hunter-gatherer groups depending on the time of year, whether they were shattered by war, etc.

none the less a few scientists have suggested that some groups drank way more milk than we do (regular people) and some of their skeletons we’re a lot more robust than the average person today. hunter-gatherer’s and tribals when they are “skinny” are skinny like endurance runners that can run hundreds of miles (except way less broke down) more commonly they have almost the physique of some-thing like a sprinter, again you see some of them that are quite “beefy” generations of warfare and eating seafood all day will do that as well.

they aren’t skinny compared to modern man, they usually aren’t frail compared to modern man, either modern day hunter-gatherers/tribals or ancient ones.

“S.B. Eaton and D.A. Nelson have argued, the amount of calcium in the average diet is now less than half of what it was in the stone age, our current susceptibility to kidney stones may result rom this abnormal aspect of our modern environment, which makes us especially vulnerable to oxalate” - Why we get sick: the new science of Darwinian medicine
By Randolph M. Nesse, George C Williams.

I doubt they were “skinny” compared to anything. Also it’s a mismatch between modern environments and the environments human’s evolved that causes much disease. Not just “wheat” or “no wheat” but whether or not you live the way a hunter-gatherer lives, etc.

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[quote]MODOK wrote:

[quote]facko wrote:
well…

IIFYM

Sorry…I had to. But, for real steely…I remember you being open and proud about being Italian, now you’re dissing pasta. I’m slightly heartbroken. Pasta is one of the cheapest, tastiest, satiating carb sources that I can think of…I don’t know a difference in my abs if I switch between potatoes as my carb source or pasta, truthfully. And, I feel the same physically as well.

I really think the whole gluten thing has been blown out of proportion, and I think the same about paleo.[/quote]

We aren’t talking about pasta’s effects on your “abz”. No one is saying it makes you look or perform any different in the gym. This is about the clinical and sub-clinical manifestations of inflammation that wheat gluten in particular causes in our population. Its very real, and it ruins many people’s lives. Stop by my clinic some time and I’ll introduce you to a hundred people and show you what I’ve found correlating its consumption with UC and Crohn’s. Its very real, and its very important that people understand what is going on.
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Well said MODOK.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
2. Glutamine can really help heal the gut.

BBB[/quote]

How do you suggest using it? When do you suggest taking it? and how much?

I use it, but only right upon waking or right after working out, and usually only take around 5g’s.[/quote]

I use it in a variety of ways really. I might take 20g in water before I leave the house to go to a restaurant (sp) where I know I’ll be enjoying a splurge. Or have another 20g afterwards, if I’ve been OTT whith the wheat and dairy. Garlic bread, cream, etc are there to be enjoyed!.. In moderation :slight_smile:

Or if inflammation has been creeping up on me for a few days, I might have a ‘gut calming day’ where I eat totally-non irritant foods, drink plenty of water, take NAC and maybe 3 x 15-30g shots of glutamine (in water) interspersed through the day.

I’ll often begin my day with a drink of 5g leucine + 10g glutamine to kickstart the anabolic process (leucine) and help the gut (also a very important part of anabolism, though less direct than the leucine).

Since a kilo only costs about $25, I can afford heavy consumption. Glutamine is one of my ‘must have’ supps.

BBB[/quote]

Awesome.

I’ve read in a couple different places that it’s best on an empty stomach. Thoughts?