Book: 'Wheat Belly'

Nutrition
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[quote]jjoy1000 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I have UC, really severe case of it. I asked my doc (who operated on Reagan when he was in office), about what foods to stay away from. He shrugged, which was scary to me. I drop the bread, and I saw a huge improvement. When I say severe case of UC, I have taken Asacol, Methotrexate, 6-MP, Cyclosporin, Prednisone, and all sorts of herbal bullshit. Dropping the bread was the only thing that caused a noticeable improvement without making me nutty. [/quote]

That’s pretty crazy.[/quote]

Just wait til you get gutted and have your entire large intestine removed, you wanna talk about a humbling experience.[/quote]

Similar story here. I’ve had UC for around 5 years now. I was taking 12 asacol pills per day and metamucil every night, which was beginning to lose it’s effectiveness. My diarrhea and joint pain were getting progressively worse again. Anyway, I started what is basically a low carb paleo diet (I now only eat meat, fruits, and vegetables). Within a few days my joint pain was gone. Within a couple months I had quit taking any asacol. It has been 4 months now and I am still off of all meds. My joint pain is still gone, and my bathroom habits are almost normal and getting better all the time. [/quote]

Dude, Lomotil is your friend, get your doc to hook you up with that shit. Add that to Fish Oil and Benefiber, and you will be right again.

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[quote]MODOK wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I have UC, really severe case of it. I asked my doc (who operated on Reagan when he was in office), about what foods to stay away from. He shrugged, which was scary to me. I drop the bread, and I saw a huge improvement. When I say severe case of UC, I have taken Asacol, Methotrexate, 6-MP, Cyclosporin, Prednisone, and all sorts of herbal bullshit. Dropping the bread was the only thing that caused a noticeable improvement without making me nutty. [/quote]

Thats great to hear, and absolutely typical. Its embarrassing how little thought is given to the causes of chronic disease by allopaths these days. [/quote]

Pardon my language here, but it is abso-fucking-lutely shameful how some doctors will not look for any and all causes or triggers to something. After 13 surgeries (honestly it could be more, I stopped counting altogether after surgery #10), only to find out that cutting out intestine doesn’t seem to work.

Oh the best part, I am mineral fucking deficient as fuck, because I don’t absorb them, especially sodium and potassium, can you say cramp city USA ? Nothing like waking up to find your toes have locked up in a flexed position so tight, I have to pry them open with my hands, and my arches lock up too.

I am 220 and lean, I can only imagine where I would be if I didn’t have all this shit happen to me, it seems that this was God’s way of making me mortal :slight_smile:

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]jjoy1000 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I have UC, really severe case of it. I asked my doc (who operated on Reagan when he was in office), about what foods to stay away from. He shrugged, which was scary to me. I drop the bread, and I saw a huge improvement. When I say severe case of UC, I have taken Asacol, Methotrexate, 6-MP, Cyclosporin, Prednisone, and all sorts of herbal bullshit. Dropping the bread was the only thing that caused a noticeable improvement without making me nutty. [/quote]

That’s pretty crazy.[/quote]

Just wait til you get gutted and have your entire large intestine removed, you wanna talk about a humbling experience.[/quote]

Similar story here. I’ve had UC for around 5 years now. I was taking 12 asacol pills per day and metamucil every night, which was beginning to lose it’s effectiveness. My diarrhea and joint pain were getting progressively worse again. Anyway, I started what is basically a low carb paleo diet (I now only eat meat, fruits, and vegetables). Within a few days my joint pain was gone. Within a couple months I had quit taking any asacol. It has been 4 months now and I am still off of all meds. My joint pain is still gone, and my bathroom habits are almost normal and getting better all the time. [/quote]

Dude, Lomotil is your friend, get your doc to hook you up with that shit. Add that to Fish Oil and Benefiber, and you will be right again. [/quote]

I will look into it. Thanks

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I read Wheat Belly and thought it a decent book. Dr. Davis also has a blog for it where he gives updates and testimonials of those that have tried avoiding wheat:

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/

Basically for me, once I began avoiding wheat a stomach condition all but cleared up. I can still become ill, as I found out on a trip through Atlanta last week! That wasn’t fun. But overall feel healthier gluten free.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Just bought the book, :frowning: looks like I’ll be ditching my 2-4 slices of wheat bread on a daily basis. Toast is so good with eggs and bacon though. Damn you thread, damn you[/quote]

I eat gluten free 95% of the time because my fiance does… but I have been eating Ezekiel bread (recommended by Mountain Dog Diet) and havent had any adverse effects.

You might not have to totally get rid of bread.[/quote]

that’s what I recommend to clients and my wife eats it, but it tastes like butt. However, I’m sure if I forced myself to eat it a few times I could grow accustomed[/quote]

which kind did you have? The plain one isnt great but the sesame one I like.[/quote]

no clue, usually get the orange bag.

BTW- my poops for the last several weeks have been different than normal. Not the same consistency or amount, and the only dietary change I’ve really made is adding wheat bread back in. Interesting…

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]MODOK wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I have UC, really severe case of it. I asked my doc (who operated on Reagan when he was in office), about what foods to stay away from. He shrugged, which was scary to me. I drop the bread, and I saw a huge improvement. When I say severe case of UC, I have taken Asacol, Methotrexate, 6-MP, Cyclosporin, Prednisone, and all sorts of herbal bullshit. Dropping the bread was the only thing that caused a noticeable improvement without making me nutty. [/quote]

Thats great to hear, and absolutely typical. Its embarrassing how little thought is given to the causes of chronic disease by allopaths these days. [/quote]

Agreed. A woman I know has UC (and 2 masters degrees, but a seeming inability to think for herself) and scoffs down wheat based products ALL day long and takes the drugs to control symptoms.

When I asked why she didn’t cut out the wheat, since it was a widely recognised contributory factor, she said “WELL, they don’t actually know what causes UC.”

Um, OK then, have a nice life.

She also came up wth the gem: “I believe that unless you are an elite athlete, you need NO dietary supplements AT ALL.” - which sounds like an adopted philosophy if I ever heard one.

I couldn’t be arsed debating with her :wink:

BBB[/quote]

Yea, I’ve heard some very educated people (in healthcare mind you) say in regards to some conditions “Well just take [X Drug] and problem solved”. Going along with what MODOK said. How can you not look for the root cause of the problem? When did treating symptoms become acceptable?

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[quote]Bonesaw93 wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]MODOK wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I have UC, really severe case of it. I asked my doc (who operated on Reagan when he was in office), about what foods to stay away from. He shrugged, which was scary to me. I drop the bread, and I saw a huge improvement. When I say severe case of UC, I have taken Asacol, Methotrexate, 6-MP, Cyclosporin, Prednisone, and all sorts of herbal bullshit. Dropping the bread was the only thing that caused a noticeable improvement without making me nutty. [/quote]

Thats great to hear, and absolutely typical. Its embarrassing how little thought is given to the causes of chronic disease by allopaths these days. [/quote]

Agreed. A woman I know has UC (and 2 masters degrees, but a seeming inability to think for herself) and scoffs down wheat based products ALL day long and takes the drugs to control symptoms.

When I asked why she didn’t cut out the wheat, since it was a widely recognised contributory factor, she said “WELL, they don’t actually know what causes UC.”

Um, OK then, have a nice life.

She also came up wth the gem: “I believe that unless you are an elite athlete, you need NO dietary supplements AT ALL.” - which sounds like an adopted philosophy if I ever heard one.

I couldn’t be arsed debating with her :wink:

BBB[/quote]

Yea, I’ve heard some very educated people (in healthcare mind you) say in regards to some conditions “Well just take [X Drug] and problem solved”. Going along with what MODOK said. How can you not look for the root cause of the problem? When did treating symptoms become acceptable?
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Having trained a few doctors, they are just too busy rushing on to the next patient. They do try to tell them to eat better, and sometimes offer some good advice.

However, #1- it’s not enough info #2- it’s rushed #3- they fall into the same trap I used to, being a relayer of information rather than trying to meet the individual where they are at in the change process

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
So far I dearly miss soy sauce on my rice.[/quote]

why did you cut it out?

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[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
So far I dearly miss soy sauce on my rice.[/quote]

why did you cut it out?[/quote]

It has wheat in it.

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
So far I dearly miss soy sauce on my rice.[/quote]

why did you cut it out?[/quote]

It has wheat in it.[/quote]

NOOOOOOOO! fuck… 2nd ingredient listed, just checked my bottle in disbelief.

this is a very sad day for MAF :frowning:

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[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
So far I dearly miss soy sauce on my rice.[/quote]

why did you cut it out?[/quote]

It has wheat in it.[/quote]

NOOOOOOOO! fuck… 2nd ingredient listed, just checked my bottle in disbelief.
[/quote]
Braggs Soy Sauce is wheat/gluten free

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I haven’t read the book but I have others that are similar.

I avoid gluten(for the most part) because my Mom clued me in to the fact that when I was a toddler I couldn’t eat the stuff. The Dr’s back then just said ‘Don’t let her have any and see what happens.’

I was cured! Until my babysitter forgot and gave me a graham cracker and I was sick for a week. I guess my Mom was told I would “grow out of it.”

And now I’m all grown up and have Hashimoto’s thyroiditis…and being celiac or having gluten intolerances are known to go hand in hand.

Actually I just got a blood test done for celiac but I doubt it will come up with anything. People are told they have to eat loads and loads of gluten for MONTHS to prepare for this test but many are not willing to do that.

I don’t really need a test to tell me to not eat wheat but I guess to see it on paper would make it easier to come to terms with.

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[quote]Alex Stoddard wrote:
Braggs Soy Sauce is wheat/gluten free[/quote]

you obviously dont understand. this is the greatest soy sauce i’ve ever tasted. words cannot express…

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[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Alex Stoddard wrote:
Braggs Soy Sauce is wheat/gluten free[/quote]

you obviously dont understand. this is the greatest soy sauce i’ve ever tasted. words cannot express…[/quote]

+1 this.

Braggs’ Liquid Aminos and Bragg’s Apple Cider Vinegar are wonderous.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Alex Stoddard wrote:
Braggs Soy Sauce is wheat/gluten free[/quote]

you obviously dont understand. this is the greatest soy sauce i’ve ever tasted. words cannot express…[/quote]

+1 this.

Braggs’ Liquid Aminos and Bragg’s Apple Cider Vinegar are wonderous.[/quote]

What are the benefits that you’ve experienced from ACV? what’s it good for? I’ve read all different opinions and was just interested to hear about your experience.

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Alex Stoddard wrote:
Braggs Soy Sauce is wheat/gluten free[/quote]

you obviously dont understand. this is the greatest soy sauce i’ve ever tasted. words cannot express…[/quote]

+1 this.

Braggs’ Liquid Aminos and Bragg’s Apple Cider Vinegar are wonderous.[/quote]

What are the benefits that you’ve experienced from ACV? what’s it good for? I’ve read all different opinions and was just interested to hear about your experience.[/quote]

First and foremost, it tastes awesome. Sometimes food is about taste :slight_smile:

It’s supposedly good for insulin sensitivity (at least ACV with the mother). I do what I can to improve that. It certainly isn’t harmful and I use vinegar in salad and on vegetables, so might as well use one that tastes great and may have some benefit.

So, in the context of increasing insulin sensitivity and keeping blood sugar at a good level, dropping breads and full-time high carb intake, while taking cinnamon extract, R-ALA, and Berberine, the Bragg’s ACV fits.

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Here’s a good article about the book
http://www.betterbrainbetterlife.com/brain-wheat-staff-life-wreak-havoc-2/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BetterBrainBetterLife+(Better+Brain+Better+Life)

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[quote]Jeffrey of Troy wrote:

[quote]Cr Powerlinate wrote:

[quote]ColinD624 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]theBird wrote:
Hi friends,

I have cut out 85% of my wheat consumption as of 2 weeks ago. I feel I do have more energy, especially in the mornings(although this may be related to my recent recovery from caffeine addiction). I think my skin is a bit smoother aswell.

Is oats ok? I believe they do not have gluten?

tweet[/quote]

Oats contain gluten, but many people on gluten-free diets are able to handle them and eat them regularly.

Eat them, see how you feel, then decide.[/quote]

Thats because oats DO NOT contain gluten.

Though they are often milled with the same equipment used on wheat and making them problematic for those with celiac.
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He likely confused gluten with avenin.

As for Wheat Belly, the author takes some very serious liberties with the studies done on wheat and mental health.

Emily Deans does a good job discussing them on her blog. (Note: Dr. Deans rarely eats wheat herself - far from a grain-industry lobbyist.)
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Deans review was bizarre; does she think this is an instruction manual for ER physician’s or for medical students? It’s a book for the mainstream audience, and educates them about the difference between modern “dwarf” wheat (which was developed purely for $, not health) and the wheat of the past (which was never really a health food to begin with), something most people know nothing about. Great. Good job Dr. Davis.

Also, whereas Taubes’ GCBC identified that total carbs might be an issue, now Davis has identified that wheat may be an issue independent of total carbs. OK, good to know.
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It is relevant regardless of the audience. He is making unsubstantiated claims that the body of research simply does not support.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]Alex Stoddard wrote:
Braggs Soy Sauce is wheat/gluten free[/quote]

you obviously dont understand. this is the greatest soy sauce i’ve ever tasted. words cannot express…[/quote]

+1 this.

Braggs’ Liquid Aminos and Bragg’s Apple Cider Vinegar are wonderous.[/quote]

What are the benefits that you’ve experienced from ACV? what’s it good for? I’ve read all different opinions and was just interested to hear about your experience.[/quote]

First and foremost, it tastes awesome. Sometimes food is about taste :slight_smile:

It’s supposedly good for insulin sensitivity (at least ACV with the mother). I do what I can to improve that. It certainly isn’t harmful and I use vinegar in salad and on vegetables, so might as well use one that tastes great and may have some benefit.

So, in the context of increasing insulin sensitivity and keeping blood sugar at a good level, dropping breads and full-time high carb intake, while taking cinnamon extract, R-ALA, and Berberine, the Bragg’s ACV fits.
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It’s extremely nutrient rich - potassium, phosphorus, fluorine, silicon, trace minerals and pectin as well as many other powerful nutrients and enzymes

Oxymel, a product which is essentially honey and ACV has been used to dissolve painful calcium deposits in body.

It’s good stuff, like you do I use it on vegetables mixed with EVOO.