Bolivia Rebukes US Interference

[quote]lixy wrote:
Now you’re just pulling out empty analogies which a kid could debunk.[/quote]

Yet you are unable to. In fact you are unable to debunk, or defend anything brought against you.

[quote]Calling me a murderer now? Real mature.

Yeah, Nicaragua was a powerful country that could have been very dangerous to your sovereignty. We all know that from the case of Cuba…

If your hemisphere should be protected from anyone, it’s from the USA. [/quote]

When someone is big enough and tough enough to do so - let them throw their hat in the ring. Until then - we will do what we need to do to protect our interests. Just a fact of life that murderous thugs like you will have to live with.

You are one to talk about mature. Are you even old enough to vote?

[quote]The whole fuckin’ world was shouting from the roof tops that it was wrong. Did you miss that? Or do you just dismiss them?

Nicaragua then took its case to the UN Security Council, where a resolution supporting the ruling of the ICJ was vetoed by the United States. Nicaragua then went to the General Assembly, which passed a resolution supporting the ruling of the ICJ 94-3.

So please, when you get votes like 94-3, there is something VERY wrong.[/quote]

UN, ICJ, “the whole fucking world”? Please be relevant. It is not a popularity contest. Face it lixy - we can do what ever we want, whenever we want. Bringing up bullshit from 20+ years ago is not going to change that fact.

Now run along - don’t you have a vest to try on today?

[quote]lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
Did a little math. He’s managed to make time in his busy study and training schedule for an average of about 7.6 posts PER EACH AND EVERY DAY since he’s “joined.”

I should mention something here. I created an account last year to start a thread in the Beginners section. From then on, I stuck to the front page articles and never really bothered posting anywhere (just browsing the discussion was OK for me. Up until somewhere around March, I didn’t even know that there was a Politics forum.

In short, if you take the average of the last 4-5 months, you’ll end up with much scarier figures. Just thought I’d let you know…

[/quote]

Then in March the “media Jihad” kicked it into high gear against US forums. (see below) He’s deviated to some degree but I doubt the timeline is a coincidence.

Special Dispatch Series - No. 1508
March 20, 2007 No.1508

Islamist Website Instructs Mujahideen in Using Popular U.S. Web Forums to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans

In the past few months, Islamists engaged in “media jihad” have increased their efforts to expose as broad a Western audience as possible to their jihad films, which purport to document the growing success of the mujahideen in Iraq and Afghanistan. As part of this endeavor, they have posted jihad films on popular free video-sharing websites such as YouTube, LiveLeak, and Google Video, hoping that such films will tip public opinion in the West against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan - thus pressuring Western governments to withdraw their troops from these countries.

As part of the campaign to foster anti-war sentiment among Westerners, and more specifically among Americans, a member of the Al-Mohajroon Islamist website with the username Al-Wathiq Billah instructed mujahideen in how to infiltrate popular American forums and to use them to distribute jihad films and spread disinformation about the war.

The following are excerpts: [1]

“Raiding American Forums is Among the Most Important Means of Obtaining Victory in the Fierce Media War? and of Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American”

“There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war… and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not [even] know where Iraq is… [It is therefore] mandatory for every electronic mujahid [to engage in this raiding].”

“It is better that you raid non-political forums such as music forums and trivia forums… which American people… favor… Define your target[ed forum]… and get to know it well… Post your contribution and do not get into… futile arguments…”

Indicate You Are an American

“Obviously, you have to register yourself using a purely American name… Choose an icon that indicates that you are an American, and place it next to your nickname [in the forum].”

“In my experience, the areas most visited in American forums… [are titled] ‘Random Thoughts’ and ‘What’s going on in your mind?’… [The former] takes priority in the American forums, and is highly popular. You should post your contribution there… This should include films of the mujahideen in Iraq, mujahideen publications in English, and images and films of the Americans’ crimes, [such as] killing unarmed civilians in Iraq… etc.”

“Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known”

“Obviously, you should post your contribution… as an American… You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq… You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates… or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves…”

“Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs… because her poor fianc?, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated… [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God…”

How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government

“You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary… Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which… will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government…, which will… render them hostile to Bush… and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible.”

“Do not… discuss issues pertaining to Arabs or Muslims at all, whether negatively or positively… because this could be a trap for you… In addition, do not ask people to circulate the material [you have posted] in other forums… as these types of requests will expose you…”

Lixy’s usual retort is will be predictable and humorous.

lmao if you seriously believe that lixy is a part of a global terror organisation spouting propaganda to big muscled Americans.

[quote]esloco wrote:
lmao if you seriously believe that lixy is a part of a global terror organisation spouting propaganda to big muscled Americans.

[/quote]

These assholes aren’t very organized but lixy comes here for the sole purpose of spouting anti-American crap.

They don’t just spam websites dedicated to weightlifters.

[quote]esloco wrote:
lmao if you seriously believe that lixy is a part of a global terror organisation spouting propaganda to big muscled Americans.

[/quote]

Keep laughing.

Do I think he is part of a global terror “organization”? Who knows? He certainly has a lot of sympathy for them.

Does he follow the directive put out on an Islamic Media Jihad website and posted on Memri in March. That answer is obvious.

Do you think this is the only site he is on?

[quote]hedo wrote:
lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
Did a little math. He’s managed to make time in his busy study and training schedule for an average of about 7.6 posts PER EACH AND EVERY DAY since he’s “joined.”

I should mention something here. I created an account last year to start a thread in the Beginners section. From then on, I stuck to the front page articles and never really bothered posting anywhere (just browsing the discussion was OK for me. Up until somewhere around March, I didn’t even know that there was a Politics forum.

In short, if you take the average of the last 4-5 months, you’ll end up with much scarier figures. Just thought I’d let you know…

Then in March the “media Jihad” kicked it into high gear against US forums. (see below) He’s deviated to some degree but I doubt the timeline is a coincidence.

Special Dispatch Series - No. 1508
March 20, 2007 No.1508

Islamist Website Instructs Mujahideen in Using Popular U.S. Web Forums to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans

In the past few months, Islamists engaged in “media jihad” have increased their efforts to expose as broad a Western audience as possible to their jihad films, which purport to document the growing success of the mujahideen in Iraq and Afghanistan. As part of this endeavor, they have posted jihad films on popular free video-sharing websites such as YouTube, LiveLeak, and Google Video, hoping that such films will tip public opinion in the West against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan - thus pressuring Western governments to withdraw their troops from these countries.

As part of the campaign to foster anti-war sentiment among Westerners, and more specifically among Americans, a member of the Al-Mohajroon Islamist website with the username Al-Wathiq Billah instructed mujahideen in how to infiltrate popular American forums and to use them to distribute jihad films and spread disinformation about the war.

The following are excerpts: [1]

“Raiding American Forums is Among the Most Important Means of Obtaining Victory in the Fierce Media War? and of Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American”

“There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war… and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not [even] know where Iraq is… [It is therefore] mandatory for every electronic mujahid [to engage in this raiding].”

“It is better that you raid non-political forums such as music forums and trivia forums… which American people… favor… Define your target[ed forum]… and get to know it well… Post your contribution and do not get into… futile arguments…”

Indicate You Are an American

“Obviously, you have to register yourself using a purely American name… Choose an icon that indicates that you are an American, and place it next to your nickname [in the forum].”

“In my experience, the areas most visited in American forums… [are titled] ‘Random Thoughts’ and ‘What’s going on in your mind?’… [The former] takes priority in the American forums, and is highly popular. You should post your contribution there… This should include films of the mujahideen in Iraq, mujahideen publications in English, and images and films of the Americans’ crimes, [such as] killing unarmed civilians in Iraq… etc.”

“Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known”

“Obviously, you should post your contribution… as an American… You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq… You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates… or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves…”

“Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs… because her poor fianc?, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated… [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God…”

How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government

“You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary… Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which… will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government…, which will… render them hostile to Bush… and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible.”

“Do not… discuss issues pertaining to Arabs or Muslims at all, whether negatively or positively… because this could be a trap for you… In addition, do not ask people to circulate the material [you have posted] in other forums… as these types of requests will expose you…”

Lixy’s usual retort is will be predictable and humorous.

[/quote]

Wow! That sounds very familar. IT’s like I have seen the very kind of behavior described in the article, right here at testosterone.net. Can’t place my finger on it, but somebody is doing that very thing right here!

[quote]esloco wrote:
lmao if you seriously believe that lixy is a part of a global terror organisation spouting propaganda to big muscled Americans.

[/quote]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck - how is it funny to call it a duck?

the link is no loner available…

lixy if your goal is to wind up americans, mission accomplished, look what they’re believing!

[quote]hedo wrote:
esloco wrote:
lmao if you seriously believe that lixy is a part of a global terror organisation spouting propaganda to big muscled Americans.

Keep laughing.

Do I think he is part of a global terror “organization”? Who knows? He certainly has a lot of sympathy for them.

Does he follow the directive put our on an Islamic Media Jihad website and posted on Memri in March. That answer is obvious.

Do you think this is the only site he is on?

[/quote]

It does seem like a full time job more so than a recreational thing doesn’t it? I have been here since 1999, and he has like a thousand more posts than me. That’s spending an awful lot of time doing this shit. And if it is happening in more than one forumn, well hell, that’s a buttload of time on line spouting jihadist shit.

[quote]esloco wrote:
the link is no loner available…

lixy if your goal is to wind up americans, mission accomplished, look what they’re believing![/quote]

Stating the obvious. Not enough politcal correctness for you? Welcome to T-Nation.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
esloco wrote:
lmao if you seriously believe that lixy is a part of a global terror organisation spouting propaganda to big muscled Americans.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck - how is it funny to call it a duck?

[/quote]

could be a robot duck? /lame (its almsot 3am here and i’m finsishing a paper due in 4 hours while reading T-Nation>_>)

to the topic of the thread though, while i don’t like the US interfering with other nations (unless that nation has expressly asked for help) the fact is, as stated earlier that America is the most powerful nation on earth, quite frankly it can do what it likes.

the fact that lixy posts alot means either A) he has no life or B) he is bored at school/uni/work

[quote]lixy wrote:

The “official” armies of every Arab country could band together with every African and latin American nation, and they would still get their asses handed to them by Israel. You seem to forget who’s behind them…
[/quote]

Oh yeah, let me guess, Great Satan?

Why do you have this mythology about the “greatness” of Israel because the US is backing it? They did a great job destroying Hezbollah. Oh yeah, last time I heard the US was supporting the “official” Lebanese army, you know the one backed by the democratic government Syria and Iran is trying to constantly topple by killing their presidents. Wow, talk about intervention. So, is Lebanon’s army now invincible because we are backing it?

[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
We have every right to back who we please.

Sure. Article…uh, what exactly of the UN charter?[/quote]

Must be the same one the Ruskies used when they backed about every militia, terrorist or rebel group in existance.

[quote]lixy wrote:

Nicaragua then took its case to the UN Security Council, where a resolution supporting the ruling of the ICJ was vetoed by the United States. Nicaragua then went to the General Assembly, which passed a resolution supporting the ruling of the ICJ 94-3.

So please, when you get votes like 94-3, there is something VERY wrong.[/quote]

When was this? When the Soviet Union and it’s block nations ruled the UN? Of course they would vote against us. It was run by a bunch of anti-US rabble. If we were smart, we should have shipped the UN to Russia and it would have folded.

[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
Oh Bolivia, that’s that shithole excuse for a country that has stolen millions of dollars in loans from the US never to have payed it back. [/quote]

Who would loan money to such a bad debtor?

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
Oh Bolivia, that’s that shithole excuse for a country that has stolen millions of dollars in loans from the US never to have payed it back.

Who would loan money to such a bad debtor?[/quote]

Yeah, really. Least thing they could do is show a little appreciation, right?

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

When was this? When the Soviet Union and it’s block nations ruled the UN? Of course they would vote against us. It was run by a bunch of anti-US rabble…[/quote]

…and still is.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Who would loan money to such a bad debtor?[/quote]

Venezuela? Oh wait…that’s not the one you had in mind…

Question, why is it the Contras are butchers and murders and the Sandanistas, the Viet Cong, the Khymer Rogue, the Red Army Faction, Hezbollah, Hamas, the PLO and others are these touchy feely sort of guys?

With such a distorted view of history, one has to wonder who exactly won the cold war.