Bolivia Rebukes US Interference

[i]LA PAZ, Bolivia (AP) – The Bolivian government stepped up its criticism of U.S. aid this week as a top Cabinet official alleged that Washington is supporting opposition to President Evo Morales’ sweeping leftist reforms.

Presidential Minister Juan Ramon Quintana comments came Wednesday, just days after Vice President Alvaro Garcia accused the United States of funding publications, trips and seminars to help Morales’ opponents

“The Bolivian people have decided to undertake a process of profound change,” Quintana said. “But these changes are being harassed and interfered with by the effects of U.S. assistance.”

Quintana added that “if U.S. cooperation does not conform to the policies of the Bolivian state, the door is open” for it to leave the country.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Tom Casey told reporters that “there is absolutely no truth to any allegation that the U.S. is using its aid funds to try and influence the political process or in any way undermine the government there.”[/i]

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/08/30/bolivia.us.ap/

Give it a rest, will you?

[quote]lixy wrote:

Give it a rest, will you?[/quote]

Take your own advice.

Why shouldn’t we influence the political process around the globe? Everyone tries to influence our political process.

Take your own advice.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Why shouldn’t we influence the political process around the globe? [/quote]

Because it’s gonna bite you in the ass.

Besides Israel I can’t think of anyone that does.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Why shouldn’t we influence the political process around the globe?

Because it’s gonna bite you in the ass.

Everyone tries to influence our political process.

Besides Israel I can’t think of anyone that does.[/quote]

What do you think you are doing by spamming this website with all the slanted, negative stories you continually post?

[quote]lixy wrote:

Besides Israel I can’t think of anyone that does.[/quote]

EU urges Texas governor to halt executions in America’s busiest death penalty state

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/21/europe/EU-GEN-EU-US-Death-Penalty.php

Would we treated to yet another whiney Lixy thread if Texas sent a letter to Belgium suggesting a policy change? Without question.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Would we treated to yet another whiney Lixy thread if Texas sent a letter to Belgium suggesting a policy change? Without question.[/quote]

A letter is completely different from military invasions, backing up coups, issuing threats, handing out weapons, financing guerillas, etc…

[quote]lixy wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
Would we treated to yet another whiney Lixy thread if Texas sent a letter to Belgium suggesting a policy change? Without question.

A letter is completely different from military invasions, backing up coups, issuing threats, handing out weapons, financing guerillas, etc…[/quote]

When did we invade Bolivia? I mean other than Butch and Sundance.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
When did we invade Bolivia? I mean other than Butch and Sundance.[/quote]

Do a quick count of the DEA guys in Bolivia and get back to me.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
When did we invade Bolivia? I mean other than Butch and Sundance.

Do a quick count of the DEA guys in Bolivia and get back to me.[/quote]

Do a quick count of Bolivians living in the US.

How about you tell us how many - I am sure you know the exact number.

But even if there are thousands of them in Bolivia - I don’t think you have an ounce of proof that they are dong any of the things you have lied about.

But it does seem that the agents that may or may not be in Bolivia are there to work WITH the Bolivian gov’t - not against them.

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/fci.htm

[quote]lixy wrote:

A letter is completely different from military invasions, backing up coups, issuing threats, handing out weapons, financing guerillas, etc…[/quote]

You said no one tried to influence the US. I gave you an example.

Israel does none of the above for the US, but it made your list of “trying to influence” - so that is what we were using. Don’t go trying to change it just because you have showed you are - yet again - wrong.

What - stung again with contradictory information? You should be used to it by now.

[quote]lixy wrote:
[i]LA PAZ, Bolivia (AP) – The Bolivian government stepped up its criticism of U.S. aid this week as a top Cabinet official alleged that Washington is supporting opposition to President Evo Morales’ sweeping leftist reforms.

Presidential Minister Juan Ramon Quintana comments came Wednesday, just days after Vice President Alvaro Garcia accused the United States of funding publications, trips and seminars to help Morales’ opponents

“The Bolivian people have decided to undertake a process of profound change,” Quintana said. “But these changes are being harassed and interfered with by the effects of U.S. assistance.”

Quintana added that “if U.S. cooperation does not conform to the policies of the Bolivian state, the door is open” for it to leave the country.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Tom Casey told reporters that “there is absolutely no truth to any allegation that the U.S. is using its aid funds to try and influence the political process or in any way undermine the government there.”[/i]

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/08/30/bolivia.us.ap/

Give it a rest, will you?[/quote]

I’m thinking morocco and sweden are ripe for takeover. If our rep is this bad, let’s cash in.

Might as well.

Oh, and immediately stop paying free aid for any country who badmouths the U.S.

I’m tired of high taxes when we get a bunch of lixy’s running their mouths.

Failing this, let’s gobble up quebec. It’s just asking to be taken.

JeffR

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
You said no one tried to influence the US. I gave you an example.[/quote]

I wouldn’t categorize writing a letter to the governor of Texas as influencing the US.

What I mean by influence, is any of the following: Direct or indirect military intervention, supporting groups that want to overthrow a democratically elected regime, issuing threats of violence, issuing economical threats, lobbying, massive “intelligence” budgets, financing propaganda in sovereign states, etc…

[quote]Israel does none of the above for the US, but it made your list of “trying to influence” - so that is what we were using.
[/quote]

We must be living in totally different planets. Here on Earth, AIPAC is unanimously considered as one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington. Tsahal is armed with US taxpayer money, and the US is making enemies by the day with its unconditional support to Israel.

If Israel didn’t have a solid foothold in Washington, what are the chances of that happening?

Oh Bolivia, that’s that shithole excuse for a country that has stolen millions of dollars in loans from the US never to have payed it back.

[quote]JeffR wrote:
I’m thinking morocco and sweden are ripe for takeover. If our rep is this bad, let’s cash in.[/quote]

You should have that dumbness looked at, it’s getting worse.

That’s a good idea. In fact, you should probably cut it out even to countries who don’t badmouth you. It’s not the job of the government to give away the taxpayer’s money.

Truth is hard to debate, huh?

Yes, by all means. Please make us your 51st state. Add 7 million ultra-liberals to your population. Think of the benefits: A) I’d pay much less taxes, and B) The Republican wouldn’t be able to win an election for the next 100 years at the least.

It’s called win:win.

Do a quick count of Iranian forces in Iraq helping our enemies there and then say that Iran does not go around invading other countries.

Either that or presence of DEA men in Bolivia does not represent an invasion.

[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
Oh Bolivia, that’s that shithole excuse for a country that has stolen millions of dollars in loans from the US never to have payed it back. [/quote]

You should be more careful who you lend to.

[quote]lixy wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
What I mean by influence, is any of the following: Direct or indirect military intervention, supporting groups that want to overthrow a democratically elected regime, issuing threats of violence, issuing economical threats, lobbying, massive “intelligence” budgets, financing propaganda in sovereign states, etc…
[/quote]

Most of this is the same thing Iran does in regard to Iraq, but Iran is the “victim.”

How can you attack the US for doing these things and not Iran?