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[quote]mr popular wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Mod Jump’N Jack wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
I was under the impression someone had to write up such a bad ass thread, and then they would sticky it…

This is generally how it works.

All of the stickies in the Strength Sports, Combat Sports, Beginners, The Over 35 Lifter, Rate My Physique, Steroids, and T-Cell Alpha forums were created by members. Once the thread was created and several other members agreed that it was “sticky-worthy”, it can be stickied be a Moderator or Admin.

Then it’s settled.

A while ago I was under the impression that Scott and Sento were working on a sticky? I was working with Sento on a few things, dunno if Scott had anything planned.

If that is still an undergoing project Pretty much stopped caring after a while, but hey, if all we need is a simple link-thread, shouldn’t be too hard to do that. Let’s discuss it in here. let me know, otherwise somebody PM me that wants to collaborate on a bodybuilding sticky.

Ok so…

-Professor X: A request ← for info on the standard modern BB method and some general stuff

-Bodypart once weekly ← (t-cell thread) for info on the kind of higher frequency training that actually works for bodybuiling purposes and some theoretical discussion

-some ramping thread, doesn’t matter which one ← for more info on the standard method for those who didn’t get it while reading the prof’s thread :wink:

-some bulking thread, no matter which one. ← more info on the standard method and hopefully will make guys realize that bulking does not equal simply getting fat.

-AD diet thread perhaps?

-stu’s contest prep thread ← I think it’s obvious why that would be in there.

-we need some kind of thread on the basics of injury prevention, ROM use in bb, exercise technique etc… I don’t really remember any good ones

-a video thread or multiple, Branch Warren, Levrone, Ronnie, slayermetal7, possibly some powerlifters, too, McGrath, Justin Harris…

-A few basic routines at the end (standard 4-way, yates-3-way, Phil Hernon inspired one, how to apply 5/3/1 to a bb routine… That kind of thing, not too many, but a few so the new guys can pick one and stick with it…, Plus some thoughts on each routine? Plus perhaps a few examples of diets used by bodybuilders in the off-season…
Basically just so people see an example or two of each of the main schools of thought…

-low-carb, hi-fat (hi protein goes without saying)
-moderate-high carb etc
-standard bb
-high frequency

That’s it off the top of my head…

I had something more direct and helpful in mind, like my first post in this thread was getting at.[/quote]

Your first post was:

[quote]

I think we should really get stickies in the bodybuilding forum, hopefully they can reduce the redundant discussions and cut some of the useless traffic we get around here.

One we should get for sure is a link to some of the ramping or straight sets threads.

Discussion About Ramping/Flat Pyramids

We need to have one about bulking too so I thought the APAF thread would be good too.

All Powerlifters Are Fatties

I’m sure there are other great ones yall could post up, these were the first two that came to my mind. Feel free to help out. I think we really need stickies.[/quote]

Do you want to have the threads stickied individually then, rather than having a single thread with links only, or am I misunderstanding you completely?

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Fattyfat’s ‘Bodybuilding My Way’ thread would be a good one to add as well.

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[quote]Chidey wrote:
Fattyfat’s ‘Bodybuilding My Way’ thread would be a good one to add as well.

[/quote]

Indeed.

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Hope I don’t come off as narcissistic, but my “What’s Your Excuse?” thread.

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A thread about Dogcrap. Never did it but Dante has some very smart and bodybuilding directed ideas. There was a pretty good thread named “Shut up about your abs” or something like that. It was a good one about bulking. A few routines could also be stickied: DC; Max-Ot (progressig well with this one); WS4SB; 5/3/1; 5
x5 amongst others that you guys feel are sticky worthy. There is also a “bullshit” training techniques thread that if merged with a thread about actual helpful techniques would be very good. Just general ideas. There are also a few posts from posters with experience that could be put together.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Mod Jump’N Jack wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
I was under the impression someone had to write up such a bad ass thread, and then they would sticky it…

This is generally how it works.

All of the stickies in the Strength Sports, Combat Sports, Beginners, The Over 35 Lifter, Rate My Physique, Steroids, and T-Cell Alpha forums were created by members. Once the thread was created and several other members agreed that it was “sticky-worthy”, it can be stickied be a Moderator or Admin.

Then it’s settled.

A while ago I was under the impression that Scott and Sento were working on a sticky? I was working with Sento on a few things, dunno if Scott had anything planned.

If that is still an undergoing project Pretty much stopped caring after a while, but hey, if all we need is a simple link-thread, shouldn’t be too hard to do that. Let’s discuss it in here. let me know, otherwise somebody PM me that wants to collaborate on a bodybuilding sticky.

Ok so…

-Professor X: A request ← for info on the standard modern BB method and some general stuff

-Bodypart once weekly ← (t-cell thread) for info on the kind of higher frequency training that actually works for bodybuiling purposes and some theoretical discussion

-some ramping thread, doesn’t matter which one ← for more info on the standard method for those who didn’t get it while reading the prof’s thread :wink:

-some bulking thread, no matter which one. ← more info on the standard method and hopefully will make guys realize that bulking does not equal simply getting fat.

-AD diet thread perhaps?

-stu’s contest prep thread ← I think it’s obvious why that would be in there.

-we need some kind of thread on the basics of injury prevention, ROM use in bb, exercise technique etc… I don’t really remember any good ones

-a video thread or multiple, Branch Warren, Levrone, Ronnie, slayermetal7, possibly some powerlifters, too, McGrath, Justin Harris…

-A few basic routines at the end (standard 4-way, yates-3-way, Phil Hernon inspired one, how to apply 5/3/1 to a bb routine… That kind of thing, not too many, but a few so the new guys can pick one and stick with it…, Plus some thoughts on each routine? Plus perhaps a few examples of diets used by bodybuilders in the off-season…
Basically just so people see an example or two of each of the main schools of thought…

-low-carb, hi-fat (hi protein goes without saying)
-moderate-high carb etc
-standard bb
-high frequency

That’s it off the top of my head…

I had something more direct and helpful in mind, like my first post in this thread was getting at.

Your first post was:

I think we should really get stickies in the bodybuilding forum, hopefully they can reduce the redundant discussions and cut some of the useless traffic we get around here.

One we should get for sure is a link to some of the ramping or straight sets threads.

Discussion About Ramping/Flat Pyramids

We need to have one about bulking too so I thought the APAF thread would be good too.

All Powerlifters Are Fatties

I’m sure there are other great ones yall could post up, these were the first two that came to my mind. Feel free to help out. I think we really need stickies.

Do you want to have the threads stickied individually then, rather than having a single thread with links only, or am I misunderstanding you completely?
[/quote]

I am not the OP of this thread. I was referring to the first post that I made in it.

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I’m with CC that one thread of links to good threads might be the best way.

And that could cause some of those threads to be bumped and drown out all the “I don’t wanna get swole” threads

I mean one of two sticky’s would be cool, but after awhile it starts to bee too much if there are 14 of them up there.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Mod Jump’N Jack wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
I was under the impression someone had to write up such a bad ass thread, and then they would sticky it…

This is generally how it works.

All of the stickies in the Strength Sports, Combat Sports, Beginners, The Over 35 Lifter, Rate My Physique, Steroids, and T-Cell Alpha forums were created by members. Once the thread was created and several other members agreed that it was “sticky-worthy”, it can be stickied be a Moderator or Admin.

Then it’s settled.

A while ago I was under the impression that Scott and Sento were working on a sticky? I was working with Sento on a few things, dunno if Scott had anything planned.

If that is still an undergoing project Pretty much stopped caring after a while, but hey, if all we need is a simple link-thread, shouldn’t be too hard to do that. Let’s discuss it in here. let me know, otherwise somebody PM me that wants to collaborate on a bodybuilding sticky.

Ok so…

-Professor X: A request ← for info on the standard modern BB method and some general stuff

-Bodypart once weekly ← (t-cell thread) for info on the kind of higher frequency training that actually works for bodybuiling purposes and some theoretical discussion

-some ramping thread, doesn’t matter which one ← for more info on the standard method for those who didn’t get it while reading the prof’s thread :wink:

-some bulking thread, no matter which one. ← more info on the standard method and hopefully will make guys realize that bulking does not equal simply getting fat.

-AD diet thread perhaps?

-stu’s contest prep thread ← I think it’s obvious why that would be in there.

-we need some kind of thread on the basics of injury prevention, ROM use in bb, exercise technique etc… I don’t really remember any good ones

-a video thread or multiple, Branch Warren, Levrone, Ronnie, slayermetal7, possibly some powerlifters, too, McGrath, Justin Harris…

-A few basic routines at the end (standard 4-way, yates-3-way, Phil Hernon inspired one, how to apply 5/3/1 to a bb routine… That kind of thing, not too many, but a few so the new guys can pick one and stick with it…, Plus some thoughts on each routine? Plus perhaps a few examples of diets used by bodybuilders in the off-season…
Basically just so people see an example or two of each of the main schools of thought…

-low-carb, hi-fat (hi protein goes without saying)
-moderate-high carb etc
-standard bb
-high frequency

That’s it off the top of my head… [/quote]

Sounds good to me my friend. I again vote for your thread:

Cephalic_Carnage: How Do You Train

It’s loaded with all kinds of helpful tips and advice that just about anyone reading would likely learn something.

I don’t know about you, but I’ve been pretty busy as of late and haven’t really had much time to think about our idea. Having a thread with links to helpful threads would probably be the more practical solution at the moment.

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[quote]mr popular wrote:

I am not the OP of this thread. I was referring to the first post that I made in it.[/quote]

Ah, sorry. That explains things :wink:
(hey, it was late over here, ok?)

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[quote]Player wrote:
A thread about Dogcrap. Never did it but Dante has some very smart and bodybuilding directed ideas. There was a pretty good thread named “Shut up about your abs” or something like that. It was a good one about bulking. A few routines could also be stickied: DC; Max-Ot (progressig well with this one); WS4SB; 5/3/1; 5
x5 amongst others that you guys feel are sticky worthy. There is also a “bullshit” training techniques thread that if merged with a thread about actual helpful techniques would be very good. Just general ideas. There are also a few posts from posters with experience that could be put together. [/quote]

Well, the stickies are supposed to be there for beginners and guys misled by certain articles, right?
Not really the right audience for DC just yet, it’ll just cause more chaos.

But yes, the other routines could all be in there.

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[quote]mr popular wrote:
I made a post about this kind of thing a while ago…

The bodybuilding section needs at least one “read this if you want to build muscle” sticky, that has basic information about diet (including a practical guide for cheap bodybuilding eating for students and blue collar folks), and training (including video instruction for the biggest lifts, and discussions like ramping/pyramiding/straight sets).

And I think it should include a list of the basic exercises, and a poundage you should reach on those exercises before you consider doing anything more complicated. [/quote] Hm, that could prove a little tricky as it varies widely depending on the height of the guy etc, but I guess we could come up with some general guidelines. But while I probably wouldn’t tell someone to use kickbacks… Like… Ever, it’s just that you can pretty much utilize almost every of the standard exercises with success… Just stuff like benching to the neck, long-rows etc are not useful/ actually dangerous for beginners, and of course all those idiotic merged exercises from crossfit and authors with a hard-on for exhuming every long-and-rightfully-forgotten “classic” exercise… I think this stuff could pretty much be covered in a section about basic programming though (so people don’t end up doing 4 different curl variations and 1 back exercise). [quote]

Then 3-4 logical splits you could train in depending on time and preference.

It would be super easy but if they haven’t done it by now I’m guessing they never will.[/quote]
You want to perhaps start a rough-draft in this thread, were people can easily add their own stuff and then you can decide what to put in the final thing?

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

Sounds good to me my friend. I again vote for your thread: [/quote] No, no chance, I’m not going to marry you, stop trying. LOL (hey, we should link most if not all of the “how do you train” threads, they all have useful stuff in them… Yes, even yours, you horrible person haha)[quote]

Cephalic_Carnage: How Do You Train

It’s loaded with all kinds of helpful tips and advice that just about anyone reading would likely learn something.

I don’t know about you, but I’ve been pretty busy as of late and haven’t really had much time to think about our idea. Having a thread with links to helpful threads would probably be the more practical solution at the moment.[/quote]

I agree on the busy part :wink:

Some things to consider: A link thread would be much less work for all of us.
However, it would also mean that the new guys have to actually read quite a lot and they can still get confused easily…

I’m not sure, making it too easy by providing an actual tutorial thread or so would mean much more work, but also don’t forget that those guys would pretty much view that as some article and as soon as they get to read a new one on the main page, they’re going to end up second-guessing themselves like they do with all articles they read.

The link-thread approach would require newbies to show some initiative on their own… How much do we want to spoon-feed people?

Anyway, I’m up for either solution…

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
mr popular wrote:
I made a post about this kind of thing a while ago…

The bodybuilding section needs at least one “read this if you want to build muscle” sticky, that has basic information about diet (including a practical guide for cheap bodybuilding eating for students and blue collar folks), and training (including video instruction for the biggest lifts, and discussions like ramping/pyramiding/straight sets).

And I think it should include a list of the basic exercises, and a poundage you should reach on those exercises before you consider doing anything more complicated. Hm, that could prove a little tricky as it varies widely depending on the height of the guy etc, but I guess we could come up with some general guidelines. But while I probably wouldn’t tell someone to use kickbacks… Like… Ever, it’s just that you can pretty much utilize almost every of the standard exercises with success… Just stuff like benching to the neck, long-rows etc are not useful/ actually dangerous for beginners, and of course all those idiotic merged exercises from crossfit and authors with a hard-on for exhuming every long-and-rightfully-forgotten “classic” exercise… I think this stuff could pretty much be covered in a section about basic programming though (so people don’t end up doing 4 different curl variations and 1 back exercise).

Then 3-4 logical splits you could train in depending on time and preference.

It would be super easy but if they haven’t done it by now I’m guessing they never will.
You want to perhaps start a rough-draft in this thread, were people can easily add their own stuff and then you can decide what to put in the final thing?

[/quote]

It wouldn’t have to be anything specific, and if we did make a “beginners start here” sticky for the bodybuilding forum it isn’t like a very tall or very short lifter couldn’t just ask a more detailed question in the thread regarding their situation.

What I mean is, there seems to be a lack of BASIC knowledge with a lot of the questions asked in this forum, so I think a basic sticky should be put in place. There isn’t any real “starting point” for a beginner that comes to this website with bodybuilding in his/her mind…

My idea:

I’d suggest a diet section that very briefly covers a handful of things in order of importance:
calories
protein
carbs
fats
micronutrients
water

Then a training section with links to discussions like straight sets vs. ramping, training to failure, and MODOK’s bodypart once weekly type threads.

Then a small list of the most basic bodybuilding exercises (squat, bench, curl, military, deadlift, pullup, barbell row, skullcrusher… or something like that), roundabout poundages that a beginner should be aiming for (the point being to take them from novice to intermediate, eg: 300lb bench press, 350lb squat), with an accompanying list of exercises to help them get there. (eg: 300lb flat bench press; Use incline/decline bench, flat/incline DB bench, and flies to get there).

And depending on their schedule, level of experience, and personal preference they can do whatever split they like as long as the exercises fit logically and they’re using progressive overload:

2 way split: back/biceps/legs, chest/shoulders/triceps (in the gym 3-6 days a week)
3 way split: legs, chest/shoulders/triceps, back/biceps (in the gym 3-6 days a week)
4 way split: legs, chest/triceps, back/biceps, shoulders (in the gym 4-6 days a week)
5 way split: legs, chest, back, shoulders, arms (in the gym 5-6 days a week)

A final word on the only real “secret” to bodybuilding training - intensity: and how you need to invoke a fight or flight response in your body (and obviously fight, as opposed to flight lol).

Rest and recovery: supplements like creatine are good but not necessary, avoid anabolic steroids and prohormones for now, get a full nights sleep, don’t lower your ability to recover by drinking excessively or abusing recreational drugs.

And then wrap up with links to threads like all of Professor X’s "Newb QOTW"s, FattyFats thread, Offseason Bodybuilders (inspiration and info), Member’s Before and Afters, Prof.X A Request, etc.etc… (a have a pretty good list prepared already)

That is the basic idea to get the ball rolling for beginners, and I think it would decrease a lot of confusion that goes on here.

You guys let me know what you think!

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:

Sounds good to me my friend. I again vote for your thread: No, no chance, I’m not going to marry you, stop trying. LOL (hey, we should link most if not all of the “how do you train” threads, they all have useful stuff in them… Yes, even yours, you horrible person haha)
[/quote]

LOL. You son of a…

Good point about the spoon feeding/initiative level.

We should all realize that the people who are going to show initiative, stick to this long term, and have being above “average” or more than looking like Ryan Reynolds goals are probably gladly going to read through stickies, do forum searches for topics which they have questions on, contact the vets (and some of the authors perhaps) for training/nutrition help. Basically they’re going to be willing to put some effort into learning because it truly means something to them.

Those who are in this for a “quick fix” or just want “hawt abz” aren’t going to read the stickies no matter how comprehensive or easily accessible they are. They also are, like you said, likely going to be distracted by the next shiny new program promising them earth shattering results with minimal effort and maximal theory (because we all know that the more complex and theoretical the program, the more effective /sarcasm) no matter how well what they had been doing was working for them.

Putting up stickies isn’t going to change the basics of forum dynamics. Look at all the stickies over at IM, yet also notice how many threads get started asking questions that could have been answered with a couple minutes (if not seconds in some cases) of searching or reading the stickies. Lazy people are going to want things spoon fed to them, serious people are going to put some effort into learning for themselves, stickies or no stickies.

So, I think that while actually writing out some sort of tutorial thread would be kinda fun and a nice little reference, it’s going to take up a heck of a lot more of our time and probably isn’t going to have any superior effect than just doing a/some stickies with links.

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:

Sounds good to me my friend. I again vote for your thread: No, no chance, I’m not going to marry you, stop trying. LOL (hey, we should link most if not all of the “how do you train” threads, they all have useful stuff in them… Yes, even yours, you horrible person haha)

LOL. You son of a…

Cephalic_Carnage: How Do You Train

It’s loaded with all kinds of helpful tips and advice that just about anyone reading would likely learn something.

I don’t know about you, but I’ve been pretty busy as of late and haven’t really had much time to think about our idea. Having a thread with links to helpful threads would probably be the more practical solution at the moment.

I agree on the busy part :wink:

Some things to consider: A link thread would be much less work for all of us.
However, it would also mean that the new guys have to actually read quite a lot and they can still get confused easily…

I’m not sure, making it too easy by providing an actual tutorial thread or so would mean much more work, but also don’t forget that those guys would pretty much view that as some article and as soon as they get to read a new one on the main page, they’re going to end up second-guessing themselves like they do with all articles they read.

The link-thread approach would require newbies to show some initiative on their own… How much do we want to spoon-feed people?

Anyway, I’m up for either solution…

Good point about the spoon feeding/initiative level.

We should all realize that the people who are going to show initiative, stick to this long term, and have being above “average” or more than looking like Ryan Reynolds goals are probably gladly going to read through stickies, do forum searches for topics which they have questions on, contact the vets (and some of the authors perhaps) for training/nutrition help. Basically they’re going to be willing to put some effort into learning because it truly means something to them.

Those who are in this for a “quick fix” or just want “hawt abz” aren’t going to read the stickies no matter how comprehensive or easily accessible they are. They also are, like you said, likely going to be distracted by the next shiny new program promising them earth shattering results with minimal effort and maximal theory (because we all know that the more complex and theoretical the program, the more effective /sarcasm) no matter how well what they had been doing was working for them.

Putting up stickies isn’t going to change the basics of forum dynamics. Look at all the stickies over at IM, yet also notice how many threads get started asking questions that could have been answered with a couple minutes (if not seconds in some cases) of searching or reading the stickies. Lazy people are going to want things spoon fed to them, serious people are going to put some effort into learning for themselves, stickies or no stickies.

So, I think that while actually writing out some sort of tutorial thread would be kinda fun and a nice little reference, it’s going to take up a heck of a lot more of our time and probably isn’t going to have any superior effect than just doing a/some stickies with links.[/quote]

I don’t think anyone is in the dark about that fact.

The problem I see is, people come to this website WITH real goals in mind, and WITH the drive to accomplish something… so they read, and they read, and they probably even read the beginners forum stickies… which are about oatmeal, water, a lot of conflicting programs, annnd a long list of supplements.

We have all seen guys regularly come into the bodybuilding forum with their heart in the right place that HAVE searched and read, but what they come up with is clean bulking and anti-bodybuilding-hypertrophy-programs, because they have no starting point made by people who are actually like-minded.

I know that I personally am guilty of this, and so are a lot of other members on this site who would now qualify as regulars (and large). I wanted to be huge but got sidetracked and mislead by an overwhelming amount of dumb articles and phantom internet gurus.

If I’d had a simple starting point where I could say, okay, this was made by guys like me, guys that are large and strong the way I want to be, and they all spoke up and said this was where someone like me should begin… then I would be miles ahead of where I am now.

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[quote]mr popular wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:

Sounds good to me my friend. I again vote for your thread: No, no chance, I’m not going to marry you, stop trying. LOL (hey, we should link most if not all of the “how do you train” threads, they all have useful stuff in them… Yes, even yours, you horrible person haha)

LOL. You son of a…

Cephalic_Carnage: How Do You Train

It’s loaded with all kinds of helpful tips and advice that just about anyone reading would likely learn something.

I don’t know about you, but I’ve been pretty busy as of late and haven’t really had much time to think about our idea. Having a thread with links to helpful threads would probably be the more practical solution at the moment.

I agree on the busy part :wink:

Some things to consider: A link thread would be much less work for all of us.
However, it would also mean that the new guys have to actually read quite a lot and they can still get confused easily…

I’m not sure, making it too easy by providing an actual tutorial thread or so would mean much more work, but also don’t forget that those guys would pretty much view that as some article and as soon as they get to read a new one on the main page, they’re going to end up second-guessing themselves like they do with all articles they read.

The link-thread approach would require newbies to show some initiative on their own… How much do we want to spoon-feed people?

Anyway, I’m up for either solution…

Good point about the spoon feeding/initiative level.

We should all realize that the people who are going to show initiative, stick to this long term, and have being above “average” or more than looking like Ryan Reynolds goals are probably gladly going to read through stickies, do forum searches for topics which they have questions on, contact the vets (and some of the authors perhaps) for training/nutrition help. Basically they’re going to be willing to put some effort into learning because it truly means something to them.

Those who are in this for a “quick fix” or just want “hawt abz” aren’t going to read the stickies no matter how comprehensive or easily accessible they are. They also are, like you said, likely going to be distracted by the next shiny new program promising them earth shattering results with minimal effort and maximal theory (because we all know that the more complex and theoretical the program, the more effective /sarcasm) no matter how well what they had been doing was working for them.

Putting up stickies isn’t going to change the basics of forum dynamics. Look at all the stickies over at IM, yet also notice how many threads get started asking questions that could have been answered with a couple minutes (if not seconds in some cases) of searching or reading the stickies. Lazy people are going to want things spoon fed to them, serious people are going to put some effort into learning for themselves, stickies or no stickies.

So, I think that while actually writing out some sort of tutorial thread would be kinda fun and a nice little reference, it’s going to take up a heck of a lot more of our time and probably isn’t going to have any superior effect than just doing a/some stickies with links.

I don’t think anyone is in the dark about that fact.

The problem I see is, people come to this website WITH real goals in mind, and WITH the drive to accomplish something… so they read, and they read, and they probably even read the beginners forum stickies… which are about oatmeal, water, a lot of conflicting programs, annnd a long list of supplements.

We have all seen guys regularly come into the bodybuilding forum with their heart in the right place that HAVE searched and read, but what they come up with is clean bulking and anti-bodybuilding-hypertrophy-programs, because they have no starting point made by people who are actually like-minded.

I know that I personally am guilty of this, and so are a lot of other members on this site who would now qualify as regulars (and large). I wanted to be huge but got sidetracked and mislead by an overwhelming amount of dumb articles and phantom internet gurus.

If I’d had a simple starting point where I could say, okay, this was made by guys like me, guys that are large and strong the way I want to be, and they all spoke up and said this was where someone like me should begin… then I would be miles ahead of where I am now.[/quote]

Oh, definitely no argument there.

But I think there are some threads that do a pretty good job of pointing people in the right direction and therefore we don’t need to re-write out everything.

For training there’s:

Prof X’s thread

C_C’s thread

OTS BBB thread (for people that maybe wanna try a legitimate higher frequency approach)

Flat pyramiding thread

For Diet there’s:

Fatty Fat’s T-Cell thread

CT X Prof X’s Discussion thread (some great info on muscle memory and why bulking up makes sense)

I’m sure there are other good ones, those are just the ones I can think of atm

For supplements:

“Shit Supplements list” T-Cell thread is a good reference for what works and what is just hype

“Discuss Nate Green’s…” T-Cell thread has lots of very interesting tidbits about lesser known supps as well as some discussion about some better know ones.

Again there are probably some other good ones that I can’t think of right now.

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Just wanted to say, you guys are awesome & thanks for this effort from those that will learn form it.

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The best thing about having a thread like this is that instead of launching into yet another beat-the-dead-horse/troll discussion, we can just point newbies to the stickied thread and call it good.

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These stickies are really needed. If they can even stop 10% of the retarded new threads it will be worth it.

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Ah, but the final determining question still hangs, who shall take the momentous burden of writing the sticky to rule them all?