[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
I’m sure you look fine and all, but 220 pounds would label you a freak? Seriously?[/quote]
Common I’m obviously using generalisations to make the point so don’t take 220lbs as some kind of benchmark - I think you know what I’m saying. Bodybuilders by their own admission refer to themselves as freaks. In general terms, freaks can still be attractive but their attractiveness is confined to a niche market. Fair point?
[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Well I guess it’s only proper I chip in at this stage and told you all how I did it (lol)!
In all seriousness, being previously involved in media I witnessed first hand the reaction caused by Daniel Craig in pre-Casino Royale publicity shots. IMO Craig’s physique made a greater impact on general audiences than any of his more notable predecessors. While action heroes like Arnie, Stallone, etc, attracted cult admiration, it was very much a niche market.
Craig single-handed turned a whole generation of females on to a bodybuilder-style physique. Suddenly it was cool again to have muscles. And a new type of Alpha Male was born.
From a personal perspective it was inspiring. First: I’ve never had a desire to weigh 220lbs ripped - but that doesn’t detract from my bodybuilding one bit. So I take umbrage if anyone wants to slate me for aspiring to 185-190lbs or so.
Second: for the first summer ever this year I walked the beach at 175lbs ripped - and it paid off. The ladies love it and my personal life has benefitted hugely as a result. I know this wouldn’t be the case if I was 220lbs since I would be more likely to be labelled in the ‘freak’ camp. [/quote]
Of course!
This post can accurately be summarized as:
…
Kim Jong Il: “It will be 9/11 times 2,356.”
Chris: “My god, that’s… I don’t even know what that is.”
Kim Jong Il: “Nobody does.”
…
For the record: Everyone is entitled to want a certain body type/weight… the difference is who has the drive and determination to get it.
Some say 300lbs is the best, some say 185… it’s like a guys preference for blondes/brunettes/redheads… who gives a crap if you’re gettin some!? (Answer: Only you and maybe that 150lb guy living vicariously through you).
[quote]ApplCobbler wrote:
I never understooad why people would get pissed off at the idea of wanting a body like Daniel Craig or Brad Pitt in Fight Club (or, even better, Snatch). Daniel Craig looks like a (physically attainable) beast, and Brad Pitt is cut as hell.
Some people don’t want to be 6’ and weighing 250 pounds, and unless you’re a bodybuilder or performance athlete, it doesn’t have that much point aside from bragging rights.
A trainer complimented my physique a couple months ago saying I was very Daniel Craig-like, and I did in fact take it as a compliment.[/quote]
puuuuusssssyyyy
[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Well I guess it’s only proper I chip in at this stage and told you all how I did it (lol)!
In all seriousness, being previously involved in media I witnessed first hand the reaction caused by Daniel Craig in pre-Casino Royale publicity shots. IMO Craig’s physique made a greater impact on general audiences than any of his more notable predecessors. While action heroes like Arnie, Stallone, etc, attracted cult admiration, it was very much a niche market.
Craig single-handed turned a whole generation of females on to a bodybuilder-style physique. Suddenly it was cool again to have muscles. And a new type of Alpha Male was born.
From a personal perspective it was inspiring. First: I’ve never had a desire to weigh 220lbs ripped - but that doesn’t detract from my bodybuilding one bit. So I take umbrage if anyone wants to slate me for aspiring to 185-190lbs or so.
Second: for the first summer ever this year I walked the beach at 175lbs ripped - and it paid off. The ladies love it and my personal life has benefitted hugely as a result. I know this wouldn’t be the case if I was 220lbs since I would be more likely to be labelled in the ‘freak’ camp. [/quote]
Haha. Plus most women think guys over 220 are compensating for a small penis.
Daniel Craig has a good physique.
But those who aim for his build would probably come up short.
It’s better to aim for the look of a bodybuilder (same training required) to get the body you like.
Think of it this way, a 300lb bodybuilder is the final destination on your bus ride, a Daniel Craig build would be like hopping off the bus a quarter of the way.
…But once you get on that bus, you don’t want to get off, because there is no ‘end’ ;)!
[quote]Producer wrote:
JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Well I guess it’s only proper I chip in at this stage and told you all how I did it (lol)!
In all seriousness, being previously involved in media I witnessed first hand the reaction caused by Daniel Craig in pre-Casino Royale publicity shots. IMO Craig’s physique made a greater impact on general audiences than any of his more notable predecessors. While action heroes like Arnie, Stallone, etc, attracted cult admiration, it was very much a niche market.
Craig single-handed turned a whole generation of females on to a bodybuilder-style physique. Suddenly it was cool again to have muscles. And a new type of Alpha Male was born.
From a personal perspective it was inspiring. First: I’ve never had a desire to weigh 220lbs ripped - but that doesn’t detract from my bodybuilding one bit. So I take umbrage if anyone wants to slate me for aspiring to 185-190lbs or so.
Second: for the first summer ever this year I walked the beach at 175lbs ripped - and it paid off. The ladies love it and my personal life has benefitted hugely as a result. I know this wouldn’t be the case if I was 220lbs since I would be more likely to be labelled in the ‘freak’ camp.
Haha. Plus most women think guys over 220 are compensating for a small penis.
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Please tell us oh wise one what else women think. Mel Gibson is that you? What women want. I beg to differ I think women look at a fit guy and not actually KNOW what he weighs. People thought Brad Pitt was lik e185 in fight club but was actually 160ish.
I women look at men that are “220” and think they have dedication to something. I think men that are under 220 look at “220” are jealous and make “male” size jokes. Weak son. weak.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
humanjhawkins wrote:
So, what kind of workout do you think Daniel Craig would have done to get ready for his Bond films, or maybe Brad Pitt would have done to get ready for Fight Club?
Both were ripped, but not huge. I suppose this is also the type of body that rap artists shoot for. Do they do something to avoid hypertrophy? Or do they just not shoot for it?
Most people like a natural muscular look in a man. Someone who is obviously juicing or eating 8000 cals/day seems like the jerk who buys stuff just for conspicuous consumption. Such a look would turn off most, who’d simply attribute his bloat to the juice. And seriously, who would you really REALLY rather look like?
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(raises hand)
[quote]mpenix wrote:
Producer wrote:
JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Well I guess it’s only proper I chip in at this stage and told you all how I did it (lol)!
In all seriousness, being previously involved in media I witnessed first hand the reaction caused by Daniel Craig in pre-Casino Royale publicity shots. IMO Craig’s physique made a greater impact on general audiences than any of his more notable predecessors. While action heroes like Arnie, Stallone, etc, attracted cult admiration, it was very much a niche market.
Craig single-handed turned a whole generation of females on to a bodybuilder-style physique. Suddenly it was cool again to have muscles. And a new type of Alpha Male was born.
From a personal perspective it was inspiring. First: I’ve never had a desire to weigh 220lbs ripped - but that doesn’t detract from my bodybuilding one bit. So I take umbrage if anyone wants to slate me for aspiring to 185-190lbs or so.
Second: for the first summer ever this year I walked the beach at 175lbs ripped - and it paid off. The ladies love it and my personal life has benefitted hugely as a result. I know this wouldn’t be the case if I was 220lbs since I would be more likely to be labelled in the ‘freak’ camp.
Haha. Plus most women think guys over 220 are compensating for a small penis.
Please tell us oh wise one what else women think. Mel Gibson is that you? What women want. I beg to differ I think women look at a fit guy and not actually KNOW what he weighs. People thought Brad Pitt was lik e185 in fight club but was actually 160ish.
I women look at men that are “220” and think they have dedication to something. I think men that are under 220 look at “220” are jealous and make “male” size jokes. Weak son. weak.[/quote]
yea lol
[quote]Producer wrote:
JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Well I guess it’s only proper I chip in at this stage and told you all how I did it (lol)!
In all seriousness, being previously involved in media I witnessed first hand the reaction caused by Daniel Craig in pre-Casino Royale publicity shots. IMO Craig’s physique made a greater impact on general audiences than any of his more notable predecessors. While action heroes like Arnie, Stallone, etc, attracted cult admiration, it was very much a niche market.
Craig single-handed turned a whole generation of females on to a bodybuilder-style physique. Suddenly it was cool again to have muscles. And a new type of Alpha Male was born.
From a personal perspective it was inspiring. First: I’ve never had a desire to weigh 220lbs ripped - but that doesn’t detract from my bodybuilding one bit. So I take umbrage if anyone wants to slate me for aspiring to 185-190lbs or so.
Second: for the first summer ever this year I walked the beach at 175lbs ripped - and it paid off. The ladies love it and my personal life has benefitted hugely as a result. I know this wouldn’t be the case if I was 220lbs since I would be more likely to be labelled in the ‘freak’ camp.
Haha. Plus most women think guys over 220 are compensating for a small penis.
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[quote]trav123456 wrote:
Producer wrote:
JamesBrawn007 wrote:
Well I guess it’s only proper I chip in at this stage and told you all how I did it (lol)!
In all seriousness, being previously involved in media I witnessed first hand the reaction caused by Daniel Craig in pre-Casino Royale publicity shots. IMO Craig’s physique made a greater impact on general audiences than any of his more notable predecessors. While action heroes like Arnie, Stallone, etc, attracted cult admiration, it was very much a niche market.
Craig single-handed turned a whole generation of females on to a bodybuilder-style physique. Suddenly it was cool again to have muscles. And a new type of Alpha Male was born.
From a personal perspective it was inspiring. First: I’ve never had a desire to weigh 220lbs ripped - but that doesn’t detract from my bodybuilding one bit. So I take umbrage if anyone wants to slate me for aspiring to 185-190lbs or so.
Second: for the first summer ever this year I walked the beach at 175lbs ripped - and it paid off. The ladies love it and my personal life has benefitted hugely as a result. I know this wouldn’t be the case if I was 220lbs since I would be more likely to be labelled in the ‘freak’ camp.
Haha. Plus most women think guys over 220 are compensating for a small penis.
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Motion is seconded… motion carries. Post IS infact rated retarded.
Brad Pitt was reportedly around 150 pounds when they shot Fight Club. He looked shredded (around 4% body fat) but contained very little muscle. I’ve read many different articles about how he trained and they all are quite different. My guess is he focused on cardio.
[quote]Majin wrote:
There’s nothing wrong with wanting that body per se, but this a BODYBUILDING FORUM. Where people SHOULD want to be 300lbs. That’s something you should understand by now, before making your 3rd post in two years.[/quote]
makes fun of lack of posts
sits back in chair smugly
updates dragonball Z fanpage
My, it’s been a good day for you, hasn’t it, majin?
But seriously, anyone who eats and trains with a specific physique goal in mind is a bodybuilder in some form or another, there’s no need to piss over other people’s ideals.
[quote]humanjhawkins wrote:
So, what kind of workout do you think Daniel Craig would have done to get ready for his Bond films, or maybe Brad Pitt would have done to get ready for Fight Club?
Both were ripped, but not huge. I suppose this is also the type of body that rap artists shoot for. Do they do something to avoid hypertrophy? Or do they just not shoot for it?[/quote]
They posted his workouts in ESQUIRE a few months back
Well I dont know about the workout but I can give you his diet. Lots of Ruffles. =D
Im not interested in bodybuilding myself, I just train to be in good shape, I guess that if you wanna look like Daniel, all you have to do is watch your nutrition (eat clean), consistency in your workouts and work as hard as you can.
Also read a lot of info about bodybuilding and incorporate those aspects that will give you better results.
Good luck!
It is not uncommon for a life long natural bodybuilder with good genetics to get to 230 after many years of hard work, then diet down to single digits and find themselves shredded and muscular at 190. These are bodybuilders who did everything they could to look like Coleman.
In short, every bodybuilder should do all they can to get as big as Ron Coleman. Even females. For those that say they don’t want to be big like Coleman, don’t be surprised if, after 10 years (+) of extreme lifting and nutrition (training to achieve a Coleman physique), you end up looking like Daniel Craig (if you’re lucky). This is reality, but it may not be your reality. You will never know unless you train to get as big as Ron Coleman.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Most people like a natural muscular look in a man. Someone who is obviously juicing or eating 8000 cals/day seems like the jerk who buys stuff just for conspicuous consumption. Such a look would turn off most, who’d simply attribute his bloat to the juice. And seriously, who would you really REALLY rather look like?
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Do you really REALLY think that anybody here is ‘in danger’ of looking like Ronnie?
The point is, you need dedication and all-out effort to achieve ANYTHING. If you start with Pitt as somebody you look up to, then you’re set for failure from the beginning. Because you’ll think it’s enough to curl 20lbs instead of 60lbs and eat one egg instead of five. Because ‘you don’t wanna be that big.’ As if it was that easy to grow muscles.
And no, somebody who’s lean and whose muscles are simply visible is not a ‘bodybuilder.’ It’s simply a lean guy who looks ‘good’ only because the rest of society looks bad. Why do you make such a big thing of being lean, HH? Think it allows you to degrade other’s passion? Wear a T-shirt and the pump you get from 10 push-ups becomes invisible.
you wanna look bigger, do what bond (craig) did.
appropriate lighting and posing, makin bond look menacing and huge, check
well tanned, sun kissed skin, check
traps, shoulders, arms forearms are all well developed and lean. his midsection shows little body fat, and this makes his legs look proportional, as they dont have the shredded look they nonetheless advertise strength. check
fashion sense, use of black and contrasting blue probably does somethin, check
arnold (the oak) talks a lot about image and presenting yourself in his books. this is what craig is achieving. it really isnt what you have, its what people think you have, or what they appear to see.
[quote]Alcar wrote:
Well I dont know about the workout but I can give you his diet. Lots of Ruffles. =D
Im not interested in bodybuilding myself, I just train to be in good shape, I guess that if you wanna look like Daniel, all you have to do is watch your nutrition (eat clean), consistency in your workouts and work as hard as you can.
Also read a lot of info about bodybuilding and incorporate those aspects that will give you better results.
Good luck!
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Im pretty sure daniel was bigger then that in 007 he was at least rocken 17-18 biceps fairly lean