That’s about what I did in a couple months time. Proper diet and work habit you’ll get there. But you want a higher free t not 15 or mid range.
Stan efferdin says he is in 200mg , eats right, and keeps his muscle. I’ve seennplenty of folks on a good trt dose and keeping muscle.
This is a way of life. Feel normal and healthy. I’m more than happy to simply feel good again and
I’ll ccet whatever the gym throws at me.
Prolactin is being monitored. Doc seems to know his stuff, so I am trusting him until I have a reason not to.
Another short sighted and uneducated response
on a topic. One should shy away from Making suggestions if they don’t even know how the body naturally produces Testostorone and or how the axis works.
Show him where every man needs to worry about high e2 causing gyno:
GYNO is not an issue for every man. It happens in a very small percentage of men. It is a genetic issue or a recent genetic Mutation occurred within the body to allow these modules to grow in the breast of men. Most guys know it .
Even Dr. Saya let’s e2 run and only doses an ai when the client had issues. Isn’t that your doc? He doesn’t go on about gyno in his responses.
If one has gyno tell the doc and handle It. Get the surgery or I guess take an ai: but not every man is going to get gyno.
Low DHT plays a part in gyno as well, this is what Dr Saya is seeing.
Prolactin I think also has a role Right?
I’m changing a ton . I’m 4 months in and dropping weight gaining muscle. More importantly I’m getting strong. 2 months ago I was benching 50lb dumbbells about 5 times. Yesterday I was 85lb dumbbells x 5. So 95-100 x1… I’m a skinny broad shoulder type guy andtall long arms lolll…
With those results you’ll find some good results. Just don’t expect to grow huge.
That’s a solid strength increase! I’m 3 months in, hoping to really start seeing some body composition changes soon, definitely gaining strength but not to the degree you are talking about…yet. LOL.
Honestly I don’t care to be huge, I would like to look lean and muscular though. I’m very hard on myself, most of the times I just feel like I look skinny-fat, which is the worst thing ever to me.
Best way is to build a base. Medium weight high reps and no rest. Switch it up every 3-4 weeks.
Balance/Endurance : single leg squats. Single leg arm raises and balance balls and cushions while lifting.
Endurance/strength: high rep to failure last set and etc
Power/strength: no brainer
Repeat.
At least that’s how I describe my phases and what my last coach taught me.
Athelnex is a great channel check them out and follow his workouts and knowledge 
This is a recipe for low T and no progress. Unless you are some sort of professional balancer, the balls are stupid and dangerous, single leg is usually fairly counter-productive and no one should train to failure - ever. And 6 weeks is a better frequency for changing a routine. Just the opinion of a guy that competed at the National level in Strongman.
You got to be kidding me. I’ve had multiple
Coaches and for an athlete this is perfect. It helps me stay balanced and work all the supporting muscles. It works well. Unless you want to Work on a couple planes of movement and never be able to play ball or be good at running and anything else.
For strong man sure I’m not working on strong man
Balance balls are stupid. I’m convinced of that. They don’'t do anything useful, Lifting weights is lifting weights. There are things that a bodybuilder will do to maximize hypertrophy which differ from general lifting or strength training. Interval cardio and agility drills are what help you with sports movements. Lifting free weights and using compound movements will provide balanced development. Too many guys are doing cardio in the weight room, past a certain rep range you are wasting your time and training to failure is training to fail. Always finish on a good rep with full range.
I don’t lift to look like a cyclist, I lift to have muscles and strength. These idiots doing endless reps or curls in the squat rack need to be shot. Just sayin’.
I don’t do just balance balls it was an example bro. There are dozens of ways to balance. Single arm bench with dumbbell . Anything that focuses you to use core or anything that helps you negate any compensation. There’s more to it. I use balance balls occasionally.
You are misconstruing my words dude. Stop it… I look like a cyclist because I ride like a cyclist. It’s what I enjoy and it’s hard to stay heavy and muscular when you are riding 60-100miles 2-4 times a week and training for a race or criterium.
The point was to develop a nice base and then go heavier and stronger. Less injuries and ensures better form.
This is how I have been training for a few months and I’ve gained much muscle , getting lean and look good.
LOL. I have no idea what you look like, nor did I know that you ride. I’m saying that that stuff is faddish and a less effective way of working the core, and guys get hurt with those things. If he wants a base, 5x5 is good. If you need core work, do OH squats or Turkish Getups or something. One arm or one leg at a time just means you are out of position and forced to use less than optimal weight for the movement, and it also increases the chance of injury. Long rests between sets and lower reps are better for test production. And you don’t want to work the same fibres in the gym that you do on the bike, honestly.
Ok I get it you have a different thought on how to get fit. I follow a different school of thought and I guess that’s because my goals and sports are different. Many ways to get after it and thanks for you input.
This is where I am, I just want to looked jacked (and truly health is my #1 goal) Don’t get me wrong, I do care about mobility, endurance, athleticism etc. But you just can’t prioritize everything or you prioritize nothing.
I do train to failure too often probably. I blame low T for that. The reason I say that is this: I know that progressive overload is critical. But with low T it was soooo hard for me to increase weight or reps with the same weight on a week to week basis, so I end up overcompensating by forcing that extra rep just so I could say I progressed in the hopes that it would force my muscles to grow. Which I now know is close to impossible with free T levels in the gutter.
Hopefully things will start changing there rather soon!
I competed with sub 300 test and no treatment. I had no idea it was low. I will say that gains are easier with normal test levels. I am comfortably back up to reps with 420-440 for a raw squat and I am by no means pushing myself or trying to get competition ready.
Amazing I did the same with my cycling. I was trying to stay on the wheels if 20 year olds and every year it just got harder and harder. Eventually I stopped competing it was death everytime. Now in just a few months guys are asking “you on epo”… shhhh no
Back in the day, I was offered a free “gear” sponsorship. Completely free supply. They were sure that I’d be on TV if I geared up. If I had known what my test results meant then, I could have been on legit, and who knows? I had a 650 RAW squat at the time and had hit 11 reps with 800+ in the car deadlift, so who knows
Yah it’s a huge and noticeable change when you go from super low t and bad thyroid to optimized. I bet it’s not as noticeable for a healthy man.
That’s some weight dude. I’m 6ft 185 lbs and am at 325lb deadlift. I’m only a couple months in of doing them but hot damn 800lbs