It’s more like .02mL counting the needle barrel body and the needle.
This is of course referring to a Luer Lok setup.
Yeah I just dont see the big deal about tossing such a minute quantity.
It’s really not normally, but when you inject every day, that minute amount starts to add up quick over a 12 week period.
yeah but you have a script to cover you? Its not like you are going without. Wait…when the ketchup is gone do you flush it with water to get the last bits? 
Lmao!
I have used the air method since I started, so if I changed that now that I’m doing ED injections, it will effectively change my actual injected dose, and thus, I’d have to pull labs again to see what’s what.
It’s just easier for me and I can run a tad higher dose with the same prescription.
If you worked at (insert your favorite restaurant here) and at the end of the night they had a (insert your favorite meal here) left over, would you throw it away or take it home and eat it?
I suppose I see your point. To each their own.
I’d prob try to accommodate the meal. There are a lot of facets to that question though.
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Now Im trying to think of what I couldnt say no to meal wise.
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Not so much “couldn’t” as “wouldn’t”! Lol
Got it. Yeah, makes sense. I just didn’t want people to think that they were getting less than they were dosing because of dead space, when I was almost sure syringe manufacturers factored that in… they’d have to or everything would always be off.
But I agree… no need to waste it if you can help it, especially when injecting often where it could add up
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention…
I asked him about TSH, and he said that my original labs showed TSH at around 4, and we pulled a FULL thyroid panel at that time which indicated good T3, T4, and RT3 numbers. Beings that is the case, and my TSH is still significantly lower than it was historically, he doesn’t feel the need to investigate thyroid any closer at this time.
I mean if I worked at a fine steakhouse and they were going to toss a porterhouse or ribeye I would definitely take that.
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I have been using the airlock technique for years. Zero waste. I have videos I have done online explaining how to do this. If anyone is looking for them I can post a link.
His argument is that he doesn’t know what ‘high’ would be because we haven’t figured out that limit yet. If there even is a limit. This is like saying I should be afraid of unicorns. We’ve been looking for unicorns forever, haven’t found any, but we should all be afraid of them just in case. It’s silly. Estrogen has been studied at length for decades. There is no research showing harm at any level. There is only research that shows benefits when we give it. There is also research as to the issues that occur with a deficiency. Logic states: stop being afraid of estrogen.
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That’s why the question was phrased the way it was! lol
I don’t disagree with you, I do however respect Dr. Saya’s viewpoint. As long as he prescribes me an amount of testosterone that alleviates my issues (and it’s looking like he is willing to do so) and he leaves the option of Estrogen control up to me, then I’m all in.
No i think, at least from my understanding of his standpoint, that the analogy would be more correctly stated as…
"We’ve been looking for unicorns forever, haven’t found any, but we should all be cautious of them IF we do happen to eventually see one.
The difference is, he actually leaves the door open for the possibility of things we cannot see. You guys slam the door on that possibility, which is not all that wise when dealing with unknowns, at least in my opinion.
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Yup exactly we’ve been doing trt for so long that by now they’d of shown a need to keep free t at a specific level Or lower. Just like thyroid and other medications.
The more important question is not ft it is estrogen. Keeping estrogen below 30 is a killer for men’s health.
Yes and no.
My analogy sucked BECAUSE: If we find a unicorn, we should be cautious. Since we haven’t found any, nothing happens.
For Saya, there might be a unicorn so let’s take action today just in case there might be, even though nothing has ever been demonstrated that there is. Let’s alter your protocol, just in case it is an issue, even though there is zero evidence stating that it is an issue.
Get it? 
I get your point, but that’s not at all what I’m seeing.
He didn’t change my protocol, other than to give me a higher dose like I asked. He does not advocate an AI for everyone as you are implying. That is just slander brother… What he is advocating is that he doesn’t care what your E2 is, as long as it doesn’t go BELOW 20, if you are not having symptoms. Even if you are, he doesn’t FORCE you take an AI. That’s a patient’s decision. He just isn’t quite convinced that someone who is having issues with being bloated, or tits that are twice their normal size and aching, will be better off by leaving E2 at 85 if it’s that high…
Again, I don’t have a dog in the fight, but i think you are being a little slanderous towards a man that you haven’t even talked to personally, and are getting all of your knowledge of his opinions indirectly…
Aaahhhhh… wait. Now I understand what you are saying and yes, I agree. Apologies for the misunderstanding!
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“Woah…this is a first. I don’t think I’ve seen values in this board that high even from the guys on thyroid replacement”
Mine is right at the top. Is this good or bad? LOL
| Component | Your Value | Standard Range | Flag |
|---|---|---|---|
| FT3 | 6.0 pmol/L | 3.3 - 6.0 pmol/L |