Hello to all, and thank you again for taking time to share your insight with me. Finally getting bloods tomorrow. Does anyone have a template for a comprehensive full panel, or can you direct me where to retrieve one? I am using a lab near my home that has great reviews. They have a Pre Testosterone panel, but I feel with deca, cyp, proviron, and tbol, at almost 51 years old, I may need some other specifics. The lab told me just bring in an example. I checked out that Merek Health and they are awesome! I spoke with a very knowledgeable man, and I do believe I will enlist with them after this run. This lab accepts my medical card, so that helps! Please advise! Thank you!!
Also been reading on Cartazol. I bought one bottle. Anyone here tried or have any input?
What exactly are you asking? Your post just seems like a run on sentence.
If you dealt with merek get a full panel from them. That is what they do. Help with bloodwork.
I can use my medical card at the independent lab near me. So no money and getting my results within 72 hours is better now for me than spending $450 and waiting up to two weeks with Merek. So, I’m not using Merek for the panels, but likely for some health maintenance in the future. The lab I am using offers a pre testosterone panel. They told me to simply show them what all I needed to be included. So again, I’m asking if there is a template I can reference and/or any advisement available on what all should have checked on the panel?
Is this correct?
-Hematocrit
-Lipid panel (LDL, HDL, triglycerides), -Cystatin C kidney test,
-eGFR kidney test,
-GGT liver test,
-Total Testosterone (LC/MS),
-Free Testosterone (Equilibrium Ultrafiltration),
-Ultrasensitive Estradiol,
-Prolactin,
-DHT test (LC/MS),
-IGF-1 test (LC/MS),
-ferritin.
This is what would be recommended for a complete bloodwork panel.
Sex Hormones:
Total Testosterone
Free Testosterone
Estradiol, Standard
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)
Prolactin
Gonadotropins:
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Neurosteroids:
Dehydroepiandrosterone Sulfate (DHEA-S)
Prostate Health:
Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA)
Thyroid:
TSH
Free T3
Free T4
Lipids:
Total Cholesterol
HDL-Cholesterol
LDL-Cholesterol
HDL/LDL Ratio
Triglycerides
Blood:
Ferritin
Complete Blood Count w/ Differential (Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count (RBC); red cell count; white blood cell count (WBC))
Metabolic:
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (albumin:globulin (A:G) ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; bilirubin, total; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; globulin, total; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum)
Insulin Sensitivity:
Blood glucose
HbA1c
Liver Function:
AST
ALT
BUN
Bilirubin, Total
Kidney Function:
Creatinine w/ eGFR
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Got it. Thank you good sir. That’s awesome! I am grateful to you! Have a great day!!
The lab told me that several of my readings that were low or high, but were very close, likely have to do with fasting for 12 hours-- possibly dehydration and low sugar.
I have been taking the cyp for 10 weeks. I’m not inclined to stop, I am doing this one last cycle and I’m done. I am back extremely active with full court basketball and mountain biking, feeling great PTL!
Please advise me on this bloodwork. Thank you!
For being on cycle I think your bloods look great. You never mentioned if you are on TRT or if you will do a PCT when the cycle is done?
Either way once you are done get back to baseline and get bloods again to make sure you are good.
I have all my PCT. Well nolva, clomid and hcg. I’ve been taking the deca for two weeks at 300 per week-- .5 cc on Tuesday and .5 Saturday. Also started the 50mg Proviron daily. What about the estrogen level being a little high? I was on .5 mg Arimidex twice a week. It was suggested to me to boost that a bit. I surely don’t want gyno issues! But doesn’t the proviron also control some estrogen? I’m using the N2Guard, I have some Himalaya Liv 52 DS also. Should I take that as well?
Thank you for the encouragement and as always thank you for your time and input!
For PCT you don’t take HCG. Wait until PCT is complete and then take it. I wouldn’t even use it on cycle. The only thing it does is plump up your balls a bit and potentially raises estrogen. The only time i would use HCG is if on TRT and balls atrophied so much that it was painful or if you have come off to have children I would use an HCG/HMG protocol to try to regain fertility.
For estrogen, it’s gonna be a bit high. You test is more than double the normal range. Estrogen follows testosterone. If the .5 x2 per week is holding you where you are and you don’t feel any symptoms then do nothing. Higher estrogen is OK.
Proviron does not control estrogen. It helps to balance out DHT/DHN when taking nandrolones so less chance of deca dick.
N2Guard is a great product. 7 caps/day?
Taking anything additional is at your discretion and based on bloodwork.
Understood. Yes, 7 caps daily N2guard. My PCT I don’t start until after my last shot correct? How long after? Do I take nolva and clomid? What are the dosages on those? Thank you!
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What do you like about it? I’ve never heard of it before and reading the ingredient list it looks like Animal Pak 2.0.
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You are taking deca correct?
It’s basically ns all in one “on cycle” organ protection product. I include it on all cycles but run it at a lower dose(2caps daily) the rest of the year.
I take other supps as well but this is a great on cycle product for lighter to medium cycles. If i was running really toxic stuff i would run other protection as well.
Yes deca 300 weekly, cyp 250, proviron 50mg ed. N2guard ed. I have tbol that I was going to start at a plateau or week 7-8 and run for 5-6 weeks at 40mg ed. Is that a good method?
I don’t have the experience like these men in proper cycling, but I have done enough research to give an eyelash a mullet. Across the clinical board (natural supplements), and the forums the N2Guard is the most preferred daily organ protection
OK, so yes adding in the tbol as you stated is my prefered method. A lot of guys start with orals but i think your better served waiting until lifts stall and then implement an oral to give youa boost.
So you cycle is 14 weeks? If so i would do it like this:
week 1-14 250mg/wk test
week 1-12 300mg/wk deca
Week 8-12/13 40mg/day tbol
week 1-14 50mg proviron daily
week 1-14 N2gaurd 7 caps daily
week 1-14 .5 x 2 arimidex unless you think you need more but looking at bloods i think your good there if you don’t have symptoms.
PCT
wait 2 weeks after last test pin. Will be 4 weeks since stopping deca
week3 clomid 50mg/day Nolva 40mg/day
week4 clomid 50mg/day Nolva 20mg/day
week5 clomid 25mg/day Nolva 20mg/day
week6 clomid 25mg/day Nolva 200mg/day
week7 clomid 12.5mg/day Nolva 10mg/day
Awesome! Thank you!!