Can we not make my thread a battleground? please?
[quote]threepercenter wrote:
Can we not make my thread a battleground? please?[/quote]
My apologies.
T-only is a fine cycle. At your age, rather than going the tren route as you seem want to do, I’d suggest trying deca. Both are 19-nors, but deca lubes the joints. I take every summer when I am blasting.
You will get comparable strength gains, but the sides are less severe than tren.
ON tren, my BP went through the roof. On Deca - not so much.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
aromasin is the choice of the pros. [/quote]
this is not so…that’s as much as I am going to say
I won’t respond to any the nonsense you addressed to me personally… and I won’t say any more about your lack of knowledge…
you can have the last word if you would like it… there is nothing more for me to say here
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
aromasin is the choice of the pros. [/quote]
this is not so…that’s as much as I am going to say
I won’t respond to any the nonsense you addressed to me personally… and I won’t say any more about your lack of knowledge…
you can have the last word if you would like it… there is nothing more for me to say here
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Kiddo - this is my business. I could give a fuck what some bro-board bitch thinks about what I do every motherfucking day, and have for the last 7 years.
Johnny-come-lately’s can suck my dick.
lol… whatever you say man
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
lol… whatever you say man[/quote]
It’s not me. Like I’ve said - this is my business. And you are an internet expert. Those who can - do. Those who can’t pretend they can on the internet.
I’ll be glad to compare my customer list with yours. Just let me know when you feel froggy.
[quote]PKNY wrote:
If you can get your hands on Test Prop give it a try…and check with the source
before you buy it that it has mild PIP.
My first year on TRT was Androgel which gave me decent libido response but no muscular or strength gains. Spent 6 or so months with Test Cyp and varied the dose and frequency while keeping my E2 in range and basically my sex drive died. Reading this site and experiences of others I thought T-cyp was the shangri-la of test, but it was marginal at best for me.
I know that I have low SHBG, and I believe that is the reason that Cyp and Enth don’t work for me, T-Prop every other day and I feel like superman, crazy wood, nocturnal and morning…
sometimes I have to walk into the shower to pee when I get up for work otherwise I’d piss
all over the back and top of the toilet. All this at just 100mg per week.
Blasting on it is even better, strength and noticeable size gains and vascularity. At 44 you have to be careful about blowing up in short amounts of time : ), but its a problem I love having.
Only side I have from Prop is high Hematocrit, but I just give blood
every two months to keep it in control.
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Well it looks like I have some research to do! My Doctor scrips the test cyp for me. How would you recommend I get him to change? After all, I am doctoring for low “T”. He told me to cut back a little when my last blood work had my TT at 1100.
As for sources, that’s a joke. I have none. I can’t even get a good recommendation on a decent CR company. What is the mild PIP you are referring too? Like you I did the cream for 1 year with good libido, not so much now but I am currently looking into getting some Cabergoline.
I doubt you will be able to get a script for Test Prop. I buy mine from a UGL.
Cannot name sources here, but if you go that route google a “source check” board,
pay the $7 a month and read the reviews for each UGL that is listed.
PIP is post injection pain, pretty much a non issue for Pharma or UGL Test Cyp or Enth,
but the prop ester can be nasty, and if the UGL doesn’t have a good recipe, the injections
leave lumps that can be pretty nasty. Most source check boards have reviews of the
products offered including pip, quality, turn around time etc.
If you want caber check out alldaychemist, (Indian pharmacy), I have gotten it from them before
and some other things, they are pretty big and reliable.
What do you want the caber for ?
[quote]PKNY wrote:
I doubt you will be able to get a script for Test Prop. I buy mine from a UGL.
Cannot name sources here, but if you go that route google a “source check” board,
pay the $7 a month and read the reviews for each UGL that is listed.
PIP is post injection pain, pretty much a non issue for Pharma or UGL Test Cyp or Enth,
but the prop ester can be nasty, and if the UGL doesn’t have a good recipe, the injections
leave lumps that can be pretty nasty. Most source check boards have reviews of the
products offered including pip, quality, turn around time etc.
If you want caber check out alldaychemist, (Indian pharmacy), I have gotten it from them before
and some other things, they are pretty big and reliable.
What do you want the caber for ?
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I want the Caber to keep my prolactin in check. When I upped my test cup to 400 my sex drive dipped. I have hesitated get some because of lack of access to pill form and everyone’s opinion on liquid. Thats why I was thinking Prami.
Thanks for the other info!
When you raised your test to 400mg per week, did you raise the AI you were running along with it ?
Did you get blood work to confirm high Prolactin ? With test, low libido is usually
high e2 . Only way to be sure is blood work.
Forget about liquid Caber, I’ve tried it and its shit.
If you do confirm prolactin is high and you use caber, be really conservative on the dose.
My experience with it was not good, I had read that it would really heighten libido, even cause a
man to be multi orgasmic. To be 100% honest, I ignored the many threads I read about it,
and took too high of a dose. It really F’d me up for a good week. Dizzy, dopey feelings, and
it killed my libido. It was the last time I ever messed around with it.
I have never tried Prami, but I have read its somewhat less effective than caber for prolactin issues.
Check All Day Chemist for the pharma caber if you are going to go that route.
Good Luck.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]jppage wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
people overestimate the significance of the “suicidal” aspect of aromasin… they really don’t understand what it means at all…
the body is always making new aromatase so it really doesn’t mean much if anything that it gets destroyed… besides, the aromasin gets destroyed with it which means other AI’s would be more effective in that regard.[/quote]
Well phooeey. You and your knowledge.
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it does have it’s pluses tho… it’s the AI that im using right now… mostly because my supplier made me a few grams in suspension[/quote]
Walkway Is there any reason for running different AI’s depending on what compounds your running at the time,or is one just as good as another for the most part.Thanks walkway.[/quote]
no[/quote]
What you take - and more specifically, how much you take - has a definite bearing on which AI you should take. [/quote]
How so?
Ok, trying to get my thread back on track here:
So I’m confronted with needing to inject 1.5mL e3d - that’s 200mg/dL T-Cyp - is this volume in my glutes going to cause an issue? Should I pin e2d @ 1mL? instead?
Benefits? Disadvantages?
[quote]threepercenter wrote:
Ok, trying to get my thread back on track here:
So I’m confronted with needing to inject 1.5mL e3d - that’s 200mg/dL T-Cyp - is this volume in my glutes going to cause an issue? Should I pin e2d @ 1mL? instead?
Benefits? Disadvantages?[/quote]
it shouldn’t cause a problem if you do it right… and by “right” I mean “deep enough”
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]threepercenter wrote:
Ok, trying to get my thread back on track here:
So I’m confronted with needing to inject 1.5mL e3d - that’s 200mg/dL T-Cyp - is this volume in my glutes going to cause an issue? Should I pin e2d @ 1mL? instead?
Benefits? Disadvantages?[/quote]
it shouldn’t cause a problem if you do it right… and by “right” I mean “deep enough”[/quote]
Thank you for your reply. I use 1-1/2" needles now for TRT, presumably that’ll work.
it should yes… I don’t do my own glute injections tho… always get leakage
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
it should yes… I don’t do my own glute injections tho… always get leakage[/quote]
1-1/2" seems a bit long for thighs and shoulders. Would using 1/2" tuberculin needles into shoulders work? I would think 1/2" would still be SQ.
Glutes are the hardest place to self inject imo, Maybe I think that cuz I am
somewhat stiff in the mornings, and you have to reach around to do it then
push the plunger with one hand.
Using Cyp or Enth, quads are fine, you can do it sitting down and you can hold
and steady the barrel with one hand while you depress the plunger with the other…
It also makes for an easy time when aspirating. If you use Prop, it seems
(for me at least) that I get more PIP when I shoot my quads.
My favorite spot to shoot is my delts by far. I can use a 50 or 100ml 29g insulin pin
on them, and the T is injected intramuscular even with the short 1/2 inch needle.
My normal TRT dose is 35ml every other day, and I just switch shoulders each time.
I can do this with out any problems, but when I blast and I do 100ml every other day
I rotate delts, glutes and quads.
[quote]threepercenter wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
it should yes… I don’t do my own glute injections tho… always get leakage[/quote]
1-1/2" seems a bit long for thighs and shoulders. Would using 1/2" tuberculin needles into shoulders work? I would think 1/2" would still be SQ.[/quote]
I do 1/2 inch into delts, chest, bi’s tri’s and traps
Damn dude, that is hard core !
What is the reason you use those areas ?
I have read that Deca can be spot shot for improvement in
a specific area, but I have also read that since its an IM
shot, the substance is absorbed by your blood and circulated.
What was your experience with it ?
[quote]threepercenter wrote:
Ok, trying to get my thread back on track here:[/quote]
My bad; apologies!
[quote] So I’m confronted with needing to inject 1.5mL e3d - that’s 200mg/dL T-Cyp - is this volume in my glutes going to cause an issue? Should I pin e2d @ 1mL? instead?
Benefits? Disadvantages?[/quote]
I have always used the glutes and I find alternating between each helps. I use a 1.5" 22g to draw and a 25g to inject twice a week. When I asked my Doctor about the quad he said the glutes provide less of a chance for blood clots. It’s a bitch but I can do it with both hands, one to hold and one to inject. I think any soreness comes from me moving the needle.