[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
people overestimate the significance of the “suicidal” aspect of aromasin… they really don’t understand what it means at all…
the body is always making new aromatase so it really doesn’t mean much if anything that it gets destroyed… besides, the aromasin gets destroyed with it which means other AI’s would be more effective in that regard.[/quote]
Well phooeey. You and your knowledge.
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
people overestimate the significance of the “suicidal” aspect of aromasin… they really don’t understand what it means at all…
the body is always making new aromatase so it really doesn’t mean much if anything that it gets destroyed… besides, the aromasin gets destroyed with it which means other AI’s would be more effective in that regard.[/quote]
Well phooeey. You and your knowledge.
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it does have it’s pluses tho… it’s the AI that im using right now… mostly because my supplier made me a few grams in suspension
[quote]brentf13 wrote:
You’re doing to much HCG. That’s probably driving your E2 because on 1.2mg of Adex at your T dose E2 should be fine. HCG drives my E2 through the roof. Dropped it to 150iu a week and now 12.5 mg of Aromasin daily works fine. E2, before lowering HCG, 56 after 18. [/quote]
Interesting, most folks on TRT do 250iu e2d.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
people overestimate the significance of the “suicidal” aspect of aromasin… they really don’t understand what it means at all…
the body is always making new aromatase so it really doesn’t mean much if anything that it gets destroyed… besides, the aromasin gets destroyed with it which means other AI’s would be more effective in that regard.[/quote]
Well phooeey. You and your knowledge.
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it does have it’s pluses tho… it’s the AI that im using right now… mostly because my supplier made me a few grams in suspension[/quote]
Walkway Is there any reason for running different AI’s depending on what compounds your running at the time,or is one just as good as another for the most part.Thanks walkway.
[quote]jppage wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
exemestane/aromasin does have it’s pluses tho… it’s the AI that im using right now… mostly because my supplier made me a few grams in suspension[/quote]
Walkway Is there any reason for running different AI’s depending on what compounds your running at the time,or is one just as good as another for the most part.Thanks walkway.[/quote]
$56 lab work and we can post different AI’s used and validate our choice.
Some are preferred for performance and some are more suitable for libido.
e2 numbers back I’m at 7.6 - dailing adex back a bit and planning to do my first T only blast. Going to do 500mg/week. At 5’9" 179lbs 11.9% bf how many calories am I looking at? I’m 46.
Hey three%er,
Just read through your thread…haven’t been in the steroids section for a little while.
On your Masteron question: I only had a small amount of Mast Prop to work with and did 50mg every other day for two weeks along with 500mg Test Cyp. I also had a 10ml vial of Test Prop/Tren Prop/Mast Prop blend that I used after that.
The blend was really effective, but because it was my first time using Tren and T-Prop I was unsure which compound was causing which effect. Overall that 10ml lasted 6 weeks. Great hardening effects, very little bloat, huge strength increases, insane libido, easily the best 6 week blast ever. I only gained 8lbs, but lost just 1-1.5 after I went back to just test.
Since then, I have used Test Prop and Mast Prop, or Mast Enth together (50Test Prop 50Mast Prop or Enth every other day), but have skipped using Tren alone or in combo at all. Now I can say the strength increase I had with the blend was most likely due to the TREN. Originally, I thought the Mast was responsible for the increase in Libido, but I have come to find it’s due to Test Prop.
I don’t know why, but Test Prop sets my libido on fire, and just gives me a general feeling of wellness. The Mast does add some hardening effects, but because of its hepatotoxicity, I have decided to cut it out from future cycles. If you have access to Test Prop
I highly recommend that you give it a shot (or two) !
[quote]threepercenter wrote:
[quote]brentf13 wrote:
You’re doing to much HCG. That’s probably driving your E2 because on 1.2mg of Adex at your T dose E2 should be fine. HCG drives my E2 through the roof. Dropped it to 150iu a week and now 12.5 mg of Aromasin daily works fine. E2, before lowering HCG, 56 after 18. [/quote]
Interesting, most folks on TRT do 250iu e2d.[/quote]
Bit high. I think 150iu 2x week, assuming a 1xweek at 200 or 250 of cyp.
PKNY,
How often do you train? 3 on 1 off is yielding good results, but I’m starting to feel a bit beat up. Wondering if 1 on 1 off might be a better plan. You’re in my age group - how do you train? Do you train differently when on cycle?
I am on TRT for life, but when I Blast I don’t train any more than I do on cruise. (I just make more gains!)
I found this site about six months ago called leangains (google it).
The guy advocates skipping breakfast, and not eating til noon, then eating only until 8pm.
I wasn’t able to hold to that, but I now have more carbs on lifting days, and less on non lifting days. After a workout, I will also add in some simple carbs.
He talks about three workouts per week, but since he is a trainer ($1500 a week and a wait list up to 1 year) he doesn’t give the exact routines he teaches. I back tracked a lot of it using google and some things I took from his site.
First thing, he does no cardio, nor AB work. I was happy to finally give up cardio, I always knew it was holding me back strengthand body compwise, but it was hard to let go of. My results are so much better now that I don’t do it anymore.
He Does the same routine every week, doesn’t change up exercises or order, but instead adds more weight. If you see pics of him (Martin Berkhan) or the people he trains, its hard to argue with his methods.The guy is funny as hell too. Men’s helath ripped off his work and published an intermittent fasting book that really pissed him off, he writes funny shit about them on his site and FB page.
Anyway, this is what I do
MONDAY
DEADLIFTS 1 warm up set, 1 set as heavy as I can go for 8 (currently 315) when I started I was using 225. rest 5 min, get as many as I can with same weight, rest 5 min, 3rd set drop down to 265 and get as many as I can.
LEG EXTENSIONS same as above
CALF RAISES same as above
Stretch and done. Doesn’t sound like a lot, but if you do it right, it kicks your ass.
WED
Flat Bench 1 warm up set 1 set as heavy as I can go for 8 (currently 265) when I started I was using 205. rest 5 min, get as many as I can with same weight, Rest 5 min, 3rd set drop down to 225 and get as many as I can.
Pull ups same Idea, he advocates switching pulls and chin ups week to week, and adding weight via a belt once you can hit the 8.
I then do tricep extensions and some bicep work.
Stretch and done.
FRIDAY
Barbell Squats same as above
Dumbbell Lunges same as above
Calf Work
Military Press same as above
Dumbbell shrugs same as above
Stretch and done.
He has this term on his site called FUCKAROUNDITIUS, and it describes guys in the gym talking, BSing, throwing in cute little men’s health exercise of the month routines instead of doing the hardcore exercises that hurt, cause pain and GAINS!
Once you start a routine like his 3 workouts a week, balls to the walls you will be able to pick out the guys with FUCKAROUNDITIUS, I know I used to one of them.
I make more gains with this, and have more energy for my family life, work and leisure time.
Hope this helps.
Thank you for taking the time to reply in such depth. One last question: Do you eat any differently on a blast?
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]jppage wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
exemestane/aromasin does have it’s pluses tho… it’s the AI that im using right now… mostly because my supplier made me a few grams in suspension[/quote]
Walkway Is there any reason for running different AI’s depending on what compounds your running at the time,or is one just as good as another for the most part.Thanks walkway.[/quote]
$56 lab work and we can post different AI’s used and validate our choice.
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Labs went off sale, rose by $25 for members.
I do eat more on blast, but its not planned. I just follow what my body calls for and it goes from 2500 on cruise to 3500 or so on blast. Sleep is really important too. I take 10mg of melatonin a half hour before bed, the deep sleep really helps with recovery.
Have you started your blast yet ?
[quote]PKNY wrote:
I am on TRT for life, but when I Blast I don’t train any more than I do on cruise. (I just make more gains!) [/quote]
TRT myself I just doubled my dose for the first time 8 weeks ago. Thought by now I would see some additional size. I will say that I hardened up.
[quote]PKNY wrote:
…and have more energy for my family life, work and leisure time. [/quote]
Amen Bro! Give’em a sore lip and some blood in the woods!
If you can get your hands on Test Prop give it a try…and check with the source
before you buy it that it has mild PIP.
My first year on TRT was Androgel which gave me decent libido response but no muscular or strength gains. Spent 6 or so months with Test Cyp and varied the dose and frequency while keeping my E2 in range and basically my sex drive died. Reading this site and experiences of others I thought T-cyp was the shangri-la of test, but it was marginal at best for me.
I know that I have low SHBG, and I believe that is the reason that Cyp and Enth don’t work for me, T-Prop every other day and I feel like superman, crazy wood, nocturnal and morning…
sometimes I have to walk into the shower to pee when I get up for work otherwise I’d piss
all over the back and top of the toilet. All this at just 100mg per week.
Blasting on it is even better, strength and noticeable size gains and vascularity. At 44 you have to be careful about blowing up in short amounts of time : ), but its a problem I love having.
Only side I have from Prop is high Hematocrit, but I just give blood
every two months to keep it in control.
I have not. Was thinking of doing it starting the 28th.
I’m considering adding Tren-Ace to my first cycle. Convince me not to 
T: 400mg/week e3d week: 1-12
Tren-Ace: 75mg e2d week: 3-12
A-dex: .5mg e2d
hcg: 250iu e2d
[quote]PKNY wrote:
Have you started your blast yet ?
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Every cycle I have read about that includes Tren, seems to run high Tren, and trt ranges of test (100-150mg per week).
Using higher test with high tren seems to produce more side effects. Use the search box and check out Tren cycles before
you embark on this one bro.
Interesting. I’m going to stick to the original plan of a T-Cyp only cycle I have tons of pharma-grade T-Cyp (2nd scrip action) - was thinking of 500mg/week. I’d have to wait a while for the T-Ace. It’s my first cycle ever, might as well keep it simple.
I need to psych myself out to get this started, I have all the gear and ancillaries from being on HRT. I need to spend a few more hours reading on a good newbie cycle for T only.
[quote]PKNY wrote:
Every cycle I have read about that includes Tren, seems to run high Tren, and trt ranges of test (100-150mg per week).
Using higher test with high tren seems to produce more side effects. Use the search box and check out Tren cycles before
you embark on this one bro.
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[quote]jppage wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
people overestimate the significance of the “suicidal” aspect of aromasin… they really don’t understand what it means at all…
the body is always making new aromatase so it really doesn’t mean much if anything that it gets destroyed… besides, the aromasin gets destroyed with it which means other AI’s would be more effective in that regard.[/quote]
Well phooeey. You and your knowledge.
[/quote]
it does have it’s pluses tho… it’s the AI that im using right now… mostly because my supplier made me a few grams in suspension[/quote]
Walkway Is there any reason for running different AI’s depending on what compounds your running at the time,or is one just as good as another for the most part.Thanks walkway.[/quote]
no
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]jppage wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
people overestimate the significance of the “suicidal” aspect of aromasin… they really don’t understand what it means at all…
the body is always making new aromatase so it really doesn’t mean much if anything that it gets destroyed… besides, the aromasin gets destroyed with it which means other AI’s would be more effective in that regard.[/quote]
Well phooeey. You and your knowledge.
[/quote]
it does have it’s pluses tho… it’s the AI that im using right now… mostly because my supplier made me a few grams in suspension[/quote]
Walkway Is there any reason for running different AI’s depending on what compounds your running at the time,or is one just as good as another for the most part.Thanks walkway.[/quote]
no[/quote]
Seems like every time I peek into the steroid forum, I see Mr. W showing his stripes. He hates it. I hate it. He seems to be more knowledgeable than the average bear on the subject of AAS - but you can tell he is merely a bro-board level adviser.
What you take - and more specifically, how much you take - has a definite bearing on which AI you should take. Rather than the scuttlebutt of 10-15 bro-boards, I happen to know first-hand what the pros use for AI’s.
Despite Mr.W’s best efforts to steer the crowds otherwise - aromasin is the choice of the pros.