Thanks for the reply.
NP your 750 cycle with 250 deca seems interesting. Ive always heard test + deca was a classic 70/80s style golden age cycle one that Arnie did. Ive been debating doing that or 750 test 200 Tren Ace… Heard too many limp dick horror stories about deca but never tried it. I can handle Tren 150-200 tho more than that and it fuckin sux…but deca is a new compound my body hasent seen
You’d be able to handle tren much higher if you flipped the test and tren dose.
And you could always try NPP instead of deca.
SB
I believe tren and deca are both based from nandralone??? I liked test and deca. No ED issues at all.
Ive tried doseing tren higher then test b4 the sides were horrid. When I dose my test higher its more managable.
How high was your test?
SB
Times Ive run tren it was 300 test prop 150 Tren ace or 500test 200tren ace,
The one time I ran 300 tren 200 test it was a nightmare 4 me
At 200 test I would be going crazy too.
I never go over 100mg/wk of test and never use Tren E, always Ace.
SB
Why? Can you explain this? I see a lot of guys are moving away from these 500mgs and above Test cycles and just increasing their other compunds.
I understand you do what works for you, but at higher doses of Test are you seeing more negatives than the positives? Or are you just using other compounds that maybe more efficient for that job at hand?
In short, both. High dose test brings with it too many sides and also there are so many better compounds at putting on LBM.
From experience, high dose test is effective but personally I feel and look shit on it. Im watery, puffy, red with high bp. Hardly any definition, just feel like a ‘block’.
On ‘dry’ compounds, I feel and look hard, vascular, lean and my mood is so much better. As soon as I have to control oestrogen, its a rollercoaster of emotions.
Having said that, I’ve not tried high dose test with a SERM instead of AI, it may help but still doesnt sort the water retention issue which is directly related to the high BP issue and also the aesthetic aspect, we’ve all seen those bloated watery physiques.
The best way to explain it is I feel like I’m on gear with test, but with other compounds I look like im on gear, and isnt the ‘look’ part what we are all aiming for (unless powerlifting).
Hope that helps. @newbvet
SB
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Yes I don’t get all the science but they both 19nor
How was your test / deca cycle? You feel good on it nice gainz? I’m considering trying it same as you or just Test/Tren since I got both on hand
Test/Deca was good. Gained size and strength.
I’m just now starting Tren. I waited until I felt I was ready for it after running all the other milder stuff.
I’m only on 75mg per week of tren e. I’ve been on 4 weeks. Slightly elevated aggression, appetite is in overdrive and slight sweating and sleep issues but nothing super bad. I will probably increase the dose next time if this continues to go well.
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How much test u running with the Tren?
I put on size cutting with it…shits 4 reelz
What’s good dose for deca? I’m thinking save the Tren for a cut cycle… that way it’s a full yr b4 my body tastes Tren again
I was at 250 and just dropped it to 200 a week.
I ran test at 500 and deca 250
Tren really does it all, bulk or cut.
What dry compounds do you recommend. I’ve been on trt for 6 months 62mg ever 3.5. currently researching for future blast.
Stud, when did you start TRT? at what age?
About 40. It was hit or miss for years. Did creams, pellets and shots.