[quote]PB Andy wrote:
They loved it. Shooting in jeans, soft caps, de-bloused… [/quote]
Wow. Really? De-bloused. I’m surprised they don’t emphasize that on their website.
I agree with jasmincar. We have a perfectly good military that we, the taxpayers, already pay for. Fuck if I have to pay for a “Rent-A-Force” like Blackwater just so some profiteer can grow his bank account. The bill we pay these private contractors is astronomical, and would be better if allocated to our military, who are already underfunded.
What a slap to the face of our men and women in uniform.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I agree with jasmincar. We have a perfectly good military that we, the taxpayers, already pay for. Fuck if I have to pay for a “Rent-A-Force” like Blackwater just so some profiteer can grow his bank account.
What a slap to the face of our men and women in uniform.[/quote]
“Our men and women in uniform” are the operators for contractors such as Blackwater after they serve their contract with the military.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I agree with jasmincar. We have a perfectly good military that we, the taxpayers, already pay for. Fuck if I have to pay for a “Rent-A-Force” like Blackwater just so some profiteer can grow his bank account. The bill we pay these private contractors is astronomical, and would be better if allocated to our military, who are already underfunded.
What a slap to the face of our men and women in uniform.[/quote]
i dont mind. if they get hit thats one less IED i have to worry about.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I agree with jasmincar. We have a perfectly good military that we, the taxpayers, already pay for. Fuck if I have to pay for a “Rent-A-Force” like Blackwater just so some profiteer can grow his bank account. The bill we pay these private contractors is astronomical, and would be better if allocated to our military, who are already underfunded.
What a slap to the face of our men and women in uniform.[/quote]
Tell that to all the govmnt officials that blackwater has guarded that have made it back safely.Not a single person under blackwaters watch has been killed.
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.
[quote]boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.[/quote]
how much was the course? is that all or did she do reload drills?
[quote]spyoptic wrote:
how much was the course? is that all or did she do reload drills?
[/quote]
basic pistol course at blackwater costs 775.00 USD and lasts for three days. you will also need to bring 1500 rounds of pistol ammunition or buy it there.
topics taught.
Safety
Fundamentals of shooting
Draw
Malfunctions
Speed shooting
Multiple shoots
Multiple targets
Shooting positions
Shooting on the move
Shooting moving targets
Shooting behind cover
Reload as well as FTF drills are taught.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
spyoptic wrote:
how much was the course? is that all or did she do reload drills?
basic pistol course at blackwater costs 775.00 USD and lasts for three days. you will also need to bring 1500 rounds of pistol ammunition or buy it there.
topics taught.
Safety
Fundamentals of shooting
Draw
Malfunctions
Speed shooting
Multiple shoots
Multiple targets
Shooting positions
Shooting on the move
Shooting moving targets
Shooting behind cover
Reload as well as FTF drills are taught.[/quote]
aah pretty steep for me but its a nice intro. FTF is just immediate action drills?
[quote]boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.[/quote]
See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.
I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.
This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.
[quote]lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.
See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.
I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.
This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.[/quote]
These training classes, or at least all the good ones, teach you about the proper mindset when engaged in a hostile situation. This isn’t about living in fear, it’s about awareness of a possible situation, and knowing how to react.
not going to lie, being a mercenary sounds like the most mother fuckin bad ass job in the world. getting paid to be a bad ass?
yeah.
awesome.
[quote]lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.
See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.
I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.
This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.[/quote]
An uneducated opinion.
[quote]lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.
See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.
I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.
This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.[/quote]
Your opinion is pretty silly. People need guns becuase bad people often do things to nice people when they shouldn’t.
[quote]spyoptic wrote:
aah pretty steep for me but its a nice intro. FTF is just immediate action drills?
[/quote]
sorry, FTF is Fail To Fire drill. whether the round doesn’t feed or your weapon jams, etc.
in anycase, it turns into a modified reload drill
[quote]lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.
See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.
I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.
This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.[/quote]
I agree with you. you have an educated opinion
[quote]lildave wrote:
See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house. [/quote]
Our country has a right to bear arms. If you don’t uphold your rights, they’re bound to get taken away. Our country has been doing so with extreme prejudice lately, so I applaud her for exercising her right to the country, and her ability to defend herself.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.
See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.
I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.
This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.
Your opinion is pretty silly. People need guns becuase bad people often do things to nice people when they shouldn’t.[/quote]
306,422,648 people live in the states
Per 100,000 people in 2007 their was 5.6 murders, 30 forceable rapes and 283 aggravated assaults. I’d love to see what percentage of those (other then the rapes) is to people that are known to the police (since like I said… most people that get attacked arent totally innocent)
Also how many guns used in crimes are actually stolen from homes?
Per 100,000 people 14.7 people died in car accidents (not sure what year… I am thinking 2008), 6.6 people died from falls, and 8 died from poisoning.
Maybe you should put a full roll cage in your car and wear some sort of protective suit when walking since you are more likely to die from that.
YOU CAN NEVER BE TOO CAREFUL!
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…
Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).
For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.
See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.
I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.
This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.
I agree with you. you have an educated opinion
[/quote]
Well americans dont hide in there closet if there house gets broken into, Maybe canadiens do.
We have insurance. Take what you want. I’ll pay my deductible and get all new shit.
Sure beats having to clean up flesh and blood off the carpet and walls.
Also I bet most break ins that happen while someone is actually in the house arent actually robberies. They are most likely looking for someone.