I found this a rather interesting read. Where at one point the black population at large were in favor of liberal immigration laws, it seems they are now in favor of big time restrictions.
Of course, my sub-observation of the article makes me wonder why the media insists on separating everybody based on race and then accusing others or racism. After all, aren’t they just Americans? Why does it always have to be, in the eyes of the media, blacks feel this way, crackers feels this way, asian-americans feel this way,hispanic americans feel that way, etc. If you constantly divide people into “teams” by labeling them then they become teams and teams compete against each other. I.E. I blame the media for most racial issue in the modern day. They have the loudest voice in the country and they choose to use it to label groups of people and show how one group is being violated by another, which in turns stirs anger and a choosing of sides.
Dear media, we all people, but your a bunch of fucking assholes. It should be people vs. fucking assholes…right?
It should be people vs. fucking assholes…right? [/quote]
Well, it is. Problem is, we the people keep voting the fucking assholes into office, and watching their news, and reading their newspapers, and subsidizing them with our tax money.
Well, it is. Problem is, we the people keep voting the fucking assholes into office, and watching their news, and reading their newspapers, and subsidizing them with our tax money.
If we just stopped, maybe they’d all go away.[/quote]
True, but fucking assholes are all that have the money to run. And if somebody different rolls along the fucking asshole quash them quickly.
Well, it is. Problem is, we the people keep voting the fucking assholes into office, and watching their news, and reading their newspapers, and subsidizing them with our tax money.
If we just stopped, maybe they’d all go away.[/quote]
As far as voting the problem is do you vote for asshole A or asshole b . The least they could do is give us an opportunity to vote for asshole c
Well, it is. Problem is, we the people keep voting the fucking assholes into office, and watching their news, and reading their newspapers, and subsidizing them with our tax money.
If we just stopped, maybe they’d all go away.
As far as voting the problem is do you vote for asshole A or asshole b . The least they could do is give us an opportunity to vote for asshole c
Well, it is. Problem is, we the people keep voting the fucking assholes into office, and watching their news, and reading their newspapers, and subsidizing them with our tax money.
If we just stopped, maybe they’d all go away.[/quote]
Well, it is. Problem is, we the people keep voting the fucking assholes into office, and watching their news, and reading their newspapers, and subsidizing them with our tax money.
If we just stopped, maybe they’d all go away.
As far as voting the problem is do you vote for asshole A or asshole b . The least they could do is give us an opportunity to vote for asshole c
It’s about time. I don’t see why American blacks would want their country destroyed by immigration any more than whites would. I really don’t see the anger coming from the black community though that I see coming from the whites. I hope they start paying attention.
[quote]pat36 wrote:
DrSkeptix wrote:
Don’t vote.
It only encourages them.
There’s wisdom in that statement…[/quote]
More so than you may think. Look at the proportion of people who turn out on ballot day, compare to healthy democracies, and draw the appropriate conclusions.
In Sweden, for example, anything less than 80% is turnout would be considered catastrophic and raise serious questions about the legitimacy of the government. Heck, even in your beloved Venezuela and its allegedly malfunctioning democracy, three quarters of the population proudly show up to exercise their right and duty as citizens.
[quote]lixy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
DrSkeptix wrote:
Don’t vote.
It only encourages them.
There’s wisdom in that statement…
More so than you may think. Look at the proportion of people who turn out on ballot day, compare to healthy democracies, and draw the appropriate conclusions.
In Sweden, for example, anything less than 80% is turnout would be considered catastrophic and raise serious questions about the legitimacy of the government. Heck, even in your beloved Venezuela and its allegedly malfunctioning democracy, three quarters of the population proudly show up to exercise their right and duty as citizens.[/quote]
You know nothing about the U.S., kindly shut the fuck up.
[quote]pat36 wrote:
lixy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
DrSkeptix wrote:
Don’t vote.
It only encourages them.
There’s wisdom in that statement…
More so than you may think. Look at the proportion of people who turn out on ballot day, compare to healthy democracies, and draw the appropriate conclusions.
In Sweden, for example, anything less than 80% is turnout would be considered catastrophic and raise serious questions about the legitimacy of the government. Heck, even in your beloved Venezuela and its allegedly malfunctioning democracy, three quarters of the population proudly show up to exercise their right and duty as citizens.
You know nothing about the U.S., kindly shut the fuck up.[/quote]
[quote]pat36 wrote:
lixy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
DrSkeptix wrote:
Don’t vote.
It only encourages them.
There’s wisdom in that statement…
More so than you may think. Look at the proportion of people who turn out on ballot day, compare to healthy democracies, and draw the appropriate conclusions.
In Sweden, for example, anything less than 80% is turnout would be considered catastrophic and raise serious questions about the legitimacy of the government. Heck, even in your beloved Venezuela and its allegedly malfunctioning democracy, three quarters of the population proudly show up to exercise their right and duty as citizens.
You know nothing about the U.S., kindly shut the fuck up.[/quote]
[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
lixy wrote:
What is it that you are challenging?
You did bring up a legitimate point, but it seems every time you enter a thread it goes like this:
USA is like this,
Sweden/Europe is better,
USA would be better if they were like Sweden,
P.S. Sweden is the best.
It comes across as snobbery and it pisses people off.
I suggest you find a new format and lighten up on the extreme AMERICA BAD position.[/quote]
Fair point. i realize that, in light of my relentless criticism of US foreign policy, this comment may be perceived as out of line.
I still would like to hear from the person claiming that I “know nothing about the U.S”, when all I did was compare international turnouts at elections. Skeptix sarcastically advised somebody not to vote, Pat found wisdom in that statement, and I took the point to its conclusion by trying to state that not voting is a widespread way of expressing discontent about the political scene.
P.S: Sweden is not the best. It has much to learn from the USA, and vice versa. Pointing out to areas where one country is superior to the other is just my progressionist reflex kicking in.
If he bought up a legitimate point, then let’s address the point. Lixy happens to live in Sweden, and he notices that even there, in a socialist country, voter turnout is over 80 percent.
In Japan, which is practically a communist country, voter turnout has historically been between 70 and 90 percent, although it has been in decline recently.
In the United States, Let us assume that 50 percent of the population is eligible to vote. If only 50 percent of eligible voters shows up at the ballots for a general election, and the candidate receives just over 50 percent of the vote, that means that a little over 12 percent of the population of the US has decided the fate of the world.
Actually, my numbers were a bit off, because over 50 percent of the population of the US is eligible to vote.
However, here is an actual example.
In 2000, the population of the US was 303,319,202.
According to the census bureau, there were 205,815,000 eligible voters, which is about 68% of the population.
50.7% of eligible voters turned out for the 2000 presidential election, which is around 104,338,854 people.
Of that number, 47.8 percent voted for George Bush.
Let’s just ponder this for a moment. The world’s most powerful man, whose decisions affect the lives of practically everyone on the planet, was elected by just over 50 million people, which is 16.6% of the population of the US, and only 0.07% of the population of the world.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
And this is from a Canadian, not an American.
Thank you, ES, for your objective [and accurate] observation.[/quote]
I used to be the same way about Canada and the USA, but then I realized the true nature of Liberalism (to actively disempower the majority and empower the minority) and joined the Conservative movement.
That’s when I took a good look at my personal values and realized I shared a lot more in common with “American” ideology than I’d previously thought.
There is a lot that America would do well to learn from Canada, but there is also a LOT that Canadians could learn from Americans.
Cracking down on illegal immigrants, for example.
Actually punishing violent criminals with harsh punishments, for example.
Actually funding the goddamn military, for example.
Screaming bloody murder at government corruption, for example.
The list goes on.
A lot of the time I agree with Linx’s points, but a lot of the time they’re expressed in a way that’s basically rude and will invite backlash.
As a Canadian, I can’t abide unnecessary rudeness.
