[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
I just want to say that nobody was there.
Who knows what happened.
Maybe the guy was racist and questioned the kid for no good reason and the kid gave empty threats, creating the perception of a threat the neighborhood watch took seriously.
And before “everyone said he was a good kid”, my mom and her neighborhood friends would say that too.
And gated communities aren’t shit. They are just neighborhoods with gates.[/quote]
Well a heated conversation even by a CCW holding Neighborhood Watch God and a Kid with skittles does not explain the Shooting.
Even in The Free State of Florida you need to explain how you felt your life was on the line to justify shooting a guy on THE STREET.
Maybe the guy was racist and questioned the kid for no good reason and the kid gave empty threats, creating the perception of a threat the neighborhood watch took seriously.
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LOL. Yes, I do believe the “perception of a threat” is pretty clear.
Kid had no weapons. Unless Night Watch guy is going to claim he was assaulted, this is bullshit profiling and racism. He called 911. Why did he get involved after that?
Gated communities are shit because of the “elitism” like this. You step in if you see someone breaking into a house.
You don’t step in because someone is walking to a house.[/quote]
Nobody was there or knows what was done or said.
I don’t doubt the kid was profiled, I do doubt his race was the motivation for his death.
Anyone who knows anything should know that all people from gated communities who enjoy fruity candy are straight up thugs. This guy was obviously warranted in using his gun before the kid got real reckless
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
I just want to say that nobody was there.
Who knows what happened.
Maybe the guy was racist and questioned the kid for no good reason and the kid gave empty threats, creating the perception of a threat the neighborhood watch took seriously.
And before “everyone said he was a good kid”, my mom and her neighborhood friends would say that too.
And gated communities aren’t shit. They are just neighborhoods with gates.[/quote]
[quote]belligerent wrote:
In my gated neighborhood we know all the black residents because they’re all of one household. [/quote]
LOL. I am betting that is exactly what Night Watch Guy said right before he fired.[/quote]
That’s the other thing. The shooter was the Area Watch Lord. I’m sure he knew that a black family lived INSIDE the gates. So it’s not a stretch to think that they would have family visit…or was the Black person limit already reached for that area?
They clearly had met their quota of blackened people for the day.
The thing is, I’ve seen that attitude when visiting a gated community. They acted like I was crossing the border. It’s like the last hope for upper middle class white people to run away from the other races. If one of those races does happen to get in and buy a house after all of the restrictions…THEY ARE ALL THAT IS ALLOWED.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, the irony of getting gunned down, not in the streets of Compton, but when visiting dad in a gated community is just too much to bare.[/quote]
Yeah, but townhomes aren’t exactly The Woodlands. Shitty apartments are gated too, if it makes you feel better.
Yeah, this kid looks REALLY threatening.
Did you guys watch the video? Sad seeing his dad choke up when talking about how his son saved HIS life in the past, and it’s sad he couldn’t save his son’s life.
Wasn’t the intention of gated communities to offer the benefit of safety and security?
Zimmerman (the shooter) reminds me of those punks who are too stupid to be cops, yet want the power of a cop. Why he’s not been arrested yet is a total injustice.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
I just want to say that nobody was there.
Who knows what happened.
Maybe the guy was racist and questioned the kid for no good reason and the kid gave empty threats, creating the perception of a threat the neighborhood watch took seriously.
And before “everyone said he was a good kid”, my mom and her neighborhood friends would say that too.
And gated communities aren’t shit. They are just neighborhoods with gates.[/quote]
Well a heated conversation even by a CCW holding Neighborhood Watch God and a Kid with skittles does not explain the Shooting.
Even in The Free State of Florida you need to explain how you felt your life was on the line to justify shooting a guy on THE STREET.
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In Texas, all you need to use deadly force is the threat of bodily harm, even if only verbal.
The only other witness is dead of course but the watchman very well could’ve been within the law.
Everything I have read about this incident seems to be asking whey the guy has not been arrested yet. Is it possible that without witnesses the cops want to make sure they have all their ducks in a row, ie balistics tests to see how far away the guy was when he shot him, things like that. For all we know an arrest may be imminent, but they want to make sure the evidence is good.
[quote]Kayrob wrote:
Everything I have read about this incident seems to be asking whey the guy has not been arrested yet. Is it possible that without witnesses the cops want to make sure they have all their ducks in a row, ie balistics tests to see how far away the guy was when he shot him, things like that. For all we know an arrest may be imminent, but they want to make sure the evidence is good.[/quote]
I bet he would have been arrested if he were black and the kid shot were white.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Some kid you don’t know threatens to kill you, you react in the moment to the threat.
It’s easy to criticize in hindsight.[/quote]
I understand the point you want to make but saying the kid said I want to kill you is also a reach[/quote]
Also…WHY would the kid, walking back home, give a shit about a rent a cop unless that rent a cop made himself known and pushed the issue?
He saw a black kid, called the cops and killed the kid. That’s fucked up no matter what happened.
I mean, the ONLY thing that would make me think otherwise is if the kid literally ATTACKED the night watch guy…which he would have no reason to do if night watch guy minded his own business and only got involved during the act of a crime.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
I just want to say that nobody was there.
Who knows what happened.
Maybe the guy was racist and questioned the kid for no good reason and the kid gave empty threats, creating the perception of a threat the neighborhood watch took seriously.
And before “everyone said he was a good kid”, my mom and her neighborhood friends would say that too.
And gated communities aren’t shit. They are just neighborhoods with gates.[/quote]
Well a heated conversation even by a CCW holding Neighborhood Watch God and a Kid with skittles does not explain the Shooting.
Even in The Free State of Florida you need to explain how you felt your life was on the line to justify shooting a guy on THE STREET.
[/quote]
In Texas, all you need to use deadly force is the threat of bodily harm, even if only verbal.
The only other witness is dead of course but the watchman very well could’ve been within the law.[/quote]
Not 100% true. It must be a true possibility of harm before lethal force can be used. Just yelling threats is not enough. But this is something the cops would or should already checked on. So this goes back to the question what is the police report say. Because for this guy to be walking around free something more must have happened…or the cops just plain suck
Well a heated conversation even by a CCW holding Neighborhood Watch God and a Kid with skittles does not explain the Shooting.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
I just want to say that nobody was there.
Who knows what happened.
Maybe the guy was racist and questioned the kid for no good reason and the kid gave empty threats, creating the perception of a threat the neighborhood watch took seriously.
And before “everyone said he was a good kid”, my mom and her neighborhood friends would say that too.
And gated communities aren’t shit. They are just neighborhoods with gates.[/quote]
Not 100% true. It must be a true possibility of harm before lethal force can be used. Just yelling threats is not enough. But this is something the cops would or should already checked on. So this goes back to the question what is the police report say. Because for this guy to be walking around free something more must have happened…or the cops just plain suck
Well a heated conversation even by a CCW holding Neighborhood Watch God and a Kid with skittles does not explain the Shooting.
Even in The Free State of Florida you need to explain how you felt your life was on the line to justify shooting a guy on THE STREET.
[/quote]
In Texas, all you need to use deadly force is the threat of bodily harm, even if only verbal.
The only other witness is dead of course but the watchman very well could’ve been within the law.[/quote]
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Nope. If you receive a direct threat, you may use deadly force within the confines of the law.
Call the HPD non emergency line and ask your self defense rights if an aggressor threatens your life.
If you do it, ask objectively, don’t slant the answer with conjectured bullshit.
