Check that out, a breakdown of the neighborhood with times as the correlate to the 911 call. They believe Trayvon doubled back.[/quote]
If that’s the truth, think about it for a moment.
If I was walking home in the dark back to my loved one’s home, and some suspicious asshole is following me, do you think I want the fucker to KNOW where I live? Why would I want to possibly endanger my loved ones by leading the way right to my home?
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That doesn’t mean you run up and sucker punch him in the face.
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
Funny, we’re back to page one of thread one. Gotta love fairy tales.
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
Based ON statements Not fact.
And the statements is of The shooter.[/quote]
And what evidence are you basing your statements on?
Oh wait, there isn’t any evidence that contradicts Zimmerman’s story.
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
Based ON statements Not fact.
And the statements is of The shooter.[/quote]
And what evidence are you basing your statements on?
Oh wait, there isn’t any evidence that contradicts Zimmerman’s story.[/quote]
Your going off of if’s and maybes I’m using the 911 tapes and the law
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
Funny, we’re back to page one of thread one. Gotta love fairy tales.[/quote]
[quote]four60 wrote:
And once again Zimmermans Actions and failure to wait for Law enforcement is what escalated to him Killing a Person who was not Committing a crime.
You can joke all you want about Martins Death, skittles or what you wish. He was Killed on a Maybe, an assumption.
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By your line of logic, I could argue that it was Trayvon’s fault because the only reason he was even in the neighborhood to begin with was because he was suspended from school. Had he not gotten caught with pot, he wouldn’t have been suspended and would still be alive.
At some point there must be accountability.
Trayvon deciding to re-engage Zimmerman is what got him killed.
And no one is joking about it, that I’ve seen anyway.
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
Funny, we’re back to page one of thread one. Gotta love fairy tales.[/quote]
Strange how fantasy can blind people[/quote]
Yep. I guess even the DA is caught in some Disney magic.
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
Funny, we’re back to page one of thread one. Gotta love fairy tales.[/quote]
Strange how fantasy can blind people[/quote]
Yep. I guess even the DA is caught in some Disney magic.
[quote]four60 wrote:
And once again Zimmermans Actions and failure to wait for Law enforcement is what escalated to him Killing a Person who was not Committing a crime.
You can joke all you want about Martins Death, skittles or what you wish. He was Killed on a Maybe, an assumption.
[quote]four60 wrote:
And once again Zimmermans Actions and failure to wait for Law enforcement is what escalated to him Killing a Person who was not Committing a crime.
You can joke all you want about Martins Death, skittles or what you wish. He was Killed on a Maybe, an assumption.
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By your line of logic, I could argue that it was Trayvon’s fault because the only reason he was even in the neighborhood to begin with was because he was suspended from school. Had he not gotten caught with pot, he wouldn’t have been suspended and would still be alive.
At some point there must be accountability.
Trayvon deciding to re-engage Zimmerman is what got him killed.
And no one is joking about it, that I’ve seen anyway.[/quote]
Once again your desire to Validate Zimmermans action has you reaching beyond common sense. Hell if Zimmerman was never born, never left his car.
Also we are back to Maybe-baby land. This Re-engagement is still only Coming from a Statement from the person who pulled the trigger.
And yet we still all dance around the fact that Zimmerman Killed a person that was not committing a crime.
[quote]four60 wrote:
And once again Zimmermans Actions and failure to wait for Law enforcement is what escalated to him Killing a Person who was not Committing a crime.
You can joke all you want about Martins Death, skittles or what you wish. He was Killed on a Maybe, an assumption.
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By your line of logic, I could argue that it was Trayvon’s fault because the only reason he was even in the neighborhood to begin with was because he was suspended from school. Had he not gotten caught with pot, he wouldn’t have been suspended and would still be alive.
At some point there must be accountability.
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Holy shit, you’ve got to be kidding!
The accountable one is the wanna-be cop super-hero with anger issues and a gun.
[quote]four60 wrote:
And once again Zimmermans Actions and failure to wait for Law enforcement is what escalated to him Killing a Person who was not Committing a crime.
You can joke all you want about Martins Death, skittles or what you wish. He was Killed on a Maybe, an assumption.
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No, he was killed for attacking.[/quote]
Not a Fact. Not even a statement all the police believed.
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
Funny, we’re back to page one of thread one. Gotta love fairy tales.[/quote]
Strange how fantasy can blind people[/quote]
Yep. I guess even the DA is caught in some Disney magic.[/quote]
Some of the police investigators sure seen the DA at Disney because they disagreed with the DA.
Also as I said on the last page Lack of evidence is what caused the DA’s decision not Zimmermans believability.
No matter how much I view Zimmerman as a 10th degree Dumbass in the art of stupidity. And how his lack of judgement and common sense resulted in the death of a kid. I’m not sure of the legality of his actions. They may find for no other reason than lack of evidence and information that can not be charged.
Reposted.
No matter how I feel. I still believe Zimmerman will walk. Not enough evidence to convict.
[quote]four60 wrote:
No matter how much I view Zimmerman as a 10th degree Dumbass in the art of stupidity. And how his lack of judgement and common sense resulted in the death of a kid. I’m not sure of the legality of his actions. They may find for no other reason than lack of evidence and information that can not be charged.
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And that’s why I’ve slowed my posting in this thread.
Most of us agree Zimmerman acted like an idiot and set off the chain of events that caused Trayvon’s death.
However, based on what we know for sure, it’s unclear if Zimmerman acted criminally. He could’ve, or he could’ve not - both seem realistic enough, at least to me.
This thread has turned into wrestling with possibilities more than anything else.
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
I have not heard a step buy step account yet, but if that is true the fault is with Martin .
[quote]four60 wrote:
No matter how much I view Zimmerman as a 10th degree Dumbass in the art of stupidity. And how his lack of judgement and common sense resulted in the death of a kid. I’m not sure of the legality of his actions. They may find for no other reason than lack of evidence and information that can not be charged.
[/quote]
And that’s why I’ve slowed my posting in this thread.
Most of us agree Zimmerman acted like an idiot and set off the chain of events that caused Trayvon’s death.
However, based on what we know for sure, it’s unclear if Zimmerman acted criminally. He could’ve, or he could’ve not - both seem realistic enough, at least to me.
This thread has turned into wrestling with possibilities more than anything else.
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Truth.
To many, If’s and Maybes for this to be anything but a round-a-bout
[quote]overstand wrote:
Zimmerman had turned around, he was no longer pursuing, Trayvon was home free, any danger he perceived had passed. All he had to do was walk inside, sit on the couch and eat his skittles.
Instead, Trayvon re-initiated the conflict, and then escalated it to physical violence. [/quote]
I have not heard a step buy step account yet, but if that is true the fault is with Martin .