Zimmfuck, I feel for you.
The media didn’t destroy your life. You brought it on yourself. You thought you’d have it easy after killing an innocent kid and, that Daddy would cover everything up for you as he’d always done. But you fucked up. You really fucked up this time.
What sort of Self-Appointed watchman carries a gun? What? You weren’t ‘‘watching’’ that night? Riiight.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I listened to that whole video posted and even the reporter acknowledged there will still be controversy over what was said because it isn’t clear enough even after the audio filter.[/quote]
So let’s be chicken little and assume the worst.[/quote]
No, let’s be realistic and notice the media doing what it does best, create controversy. That entire video posted of the audio editing came to no conclusion about what was said. They came to no final “proof” of him saying anything specific any more than what was floating around about those words previously. They must have played that word about 60 times during that one video and it is still too muddled to make out exactly what he is saying.
Acting like this was anything more than that is ridiculous. Further, regardless of what he called the kid, the FACT is that he was convinced this kid was a criminal or on drugs based on…what? Oh right…walking…with hood on…in rain. This kid is dead because of what he was perceived as on sight.
Neighborhood watch got serious, didn’t it? We have a neighborhood watch here. They WATCH…and call the cops. I missed the part where they chase suspects down and question them…or where they consider “suspect” to mean “colorless person walking”.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
I can’t wait to see him end up in jail, bent over and getting the best cock of his life in his motherfucking racist killer ass.
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I like how people incite murder. It makes them feel powerful. It’s part of the racist mindset. Not surprising to hear them call for lynchings and so on.
78-year-old man - race attack: “This is for Trayvon.” At one point, the victim recalled being lifted from the ground so one of the boys could “drop-kick” him in the chest. One boy, he said, put his foot on the back of the victim’s neck, with another shouting, “Kill him:”
I used to wonder if people every thought about their own responsibility in inciting this sort of thing, but then I realised - that’s what they want. They want to incite racially motivated murders and attacks don’t they?
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
So… is Zimmerman in the hands of the authorities yet?
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It would be good if he was, right? Because then the prosecution would have to go forward with insufficient evidence and he would be found not guilty - double jeopardy and so on. That’s what you want is it? You want him to go free? And you don’t want to know what really happened?
Race baiter Al Sharpton, with blood on his hands dating back to the Crown Heights “riot”, is employed by NBC/MSNBC and uses his platform to continue to incite racial violence. There’s a story. Who’s going to cover that one?
Actually it is highly likely he will get prosecuted for a homicide charge. Zimmerman shot Trayvon but his whole case is predicated on a self-defence assumption. Because of the lack of witnesses his self-defence plea could get over shadowed by the fact he engaged Trayvon and started the altercation.
Either way this dudes life is ruined (and rightfully so) because even if he does escape jail he’s going to have a bounty on his head. What a fucking asshole.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Actually it is highly likely he will get prosecuted for a homicide charge. Zimmerman shot Trayvon but his whole case is predicated on a self-defence assumption. Because of the lack of witnesses his self-defence plea could get over shadowed by the fact he engaged Trayvon and started the altercation.
Either way this dudes life is ruined (and rightfully so) because even if he does escape jail he’s going to have a bounty on his head. What a fucking asshole. [/quote]
I would like to see what comes of the federal investigation. But not holding my breath for any prosecution. I’m not buying into the whole slur thing because I don’t care if he yelled 3 or 4 racial slurs it does not make him a killer. Everything else he did that night makes him responsible for this kids death.
And fuck his feelings. He put himself in the position he’s in.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
It’s clear enough to me. He said C**n.
Funny, his token friend, Oliver, said Zimmfuck told him he said ‘‘goon’’. Then later the bro comes on and stated that, what was actually said was a Spanish swear word. Now we have ‘‘punks’’, ‘‘clothes’’, ‘‘negro’’ ,‘‘cold’’, racoons and maroons. Pick a fucking word and stick with it, motherfuckers. Inconsistency every where.
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So…have you ever read anything on memory, because this is human nature.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I missed the part where they chase suspects down and question them…or where they consider “suspect” to mean “colorless person walking”.[/quote]
I don’t see how HG/anyone can defend this action. He took the situation and just blew it way up.
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I missed the part where they chase suspects down and question them…or where they consider “suspect” to mean “colorless person walking”.[/quote]
I don’t see how HG/anyone can defend this action. He took the situation and just blew it way up.[/quote]
As did Martin if he was only verbally confronted and attacked Zimmerman . Nothing wrong with him walking away or running away.
People here, there , and everywhere do not see how they are advocating what they say Zimmerman did. But they know they are right even though most have no training in self defense and have not seen all the evidence . Merely confronting someone is not illegal. Verbally insulting someone is not illegal. It is not grounds for self defense. You would be doing what is called starting a fight if you then someone .
Kind of like Swayze in Road House.
" what if they call my momma a whore?"
" Is she?"
Why didn’t Martin walk away ? Why didn’t he run away? Most People can’t shoot worth a crap with a pistol at a target rapidly moving away . At the best this kid was a moron . It’s not a crime to be stupid, but it’s not very handy either .
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
So… is Zimmerman in the hands of the authorities yet?
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It would be good if he was, right? Because then the prosecution would have to go forward with insufficient evidence and he would be found not guilty - double jeopardy and so on. That’s what you want is it? You want him to go free? And you don’t want to know what really happened?
Race baiter Al Sharpton, with blood on his hands dating back to the Crown Heights “riot”, is employed by NBC/MSNBC and uses his platform to continue to incite racial violence. There’s a story. Who’s going to cover that one?[/quote]
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I missed the part where they chase suspects down and question them…or where they consider “suspect” to mean “colorless person walking”.[/quote]
I don’t see how HG/anyone can defend this action. He took the situation and just blew it way up.[/quote]
As did Martin if he was only verbally confronted and attacked Zimmerman . Nothing wrong with him walking away or running away.[/quote]
We still have no facts at what martain did, but his GF did tell him to run. We know Zimmerman ,however, followed him.
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I missed the part where they chase suspects down and question them…or where they consider “suspect” to mean “colorless person walking”.[/quote]
I don’t see how HG/anyone can defend this action. He took the situation and just blew it way up.[/quote]
As did Martin if he was only verbally confronted and attacked Zimmerman . Nothing wrong with him walking away or running away.[/quote]
We still have no facts at what martain did, but his GF did tell him to run. We know Zimmerman ,however, followed him.[/quote]
Nothing in this post is either fact or illegal.
Did Martin confront Zimmerman ? Did he approach him? Vice versa ? If Martin engaged him all all he played a part in the conflict . We need to know more before assigning blame or throwing away justifiable homicide. Marc Macyoung, an expert witness in self defense cases , teacher and martial arts instructor will not comment on this yet because all the info is not yet available . He’s testified in court in these matters in cases like that Hells Angels casino case.
He’s been quoted as saying , " what most people call self defense is correctly called fighting." Words, slurs, and insults are not grounds to physically assault someone . And he has correctly stated that if Martin took off and ran he’d be alive today . It was not a death sentence for him because Zimmerman talked to him, insulted him, or gave him the finger or just politely talked to him.
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I missed the part where they chase suspects down and question them…or where they consider “suspect” to mean “colorless person walking”.[/quote]
I don’t see how HG/anyone can defend this action. He took the situation and just blew it way up.[/quote]
As did Martin if he was only verbally confronted and attacked Zimmerman . Nothing wrong with him walking away or running away.[/quote]
We still have no facts at what martain did, but his GF did tell him to run. We know Zimmerman ,however, followed him.[/quote]
An article in yahoo with the police report .
People love "if"s… If Zimmerman stayed in his car. But he didn’t. So no need to talk about it. Talk about what you know he did.
If he just talked to Martin???
Yes, his 911 had all the signs of a rational impartial mind
[quote]four60 wrote:
People love "if"s… If Zimmerman stayed in his car. But he didn’t. So no need to talk about it. Talk about what you know he did.
If he just talked to Martin???
Yes, his 911 had all the signs of a rational impartial mind[/quote]
Exactly. It is more than reasonable to assume that Trayvon would fear for his life if someone literally chased after him AT NIGHT IN THE RAIN. Who the fuck does that “just to talk”? If someone chases after me, I am not going to assume it is for a pleasant conversation. That line of reasoning doesn’t even make sense unless you all are raising your daughters to stop and speak to strangers who run up to them at night “just in case” they only want to talk.
There is no rational reason to excuse this grown man from chasing after someone and then blame the guy being chased for expecting the worst.
Please, raise your hands if you taught your kids to talk to strangers at night.
Otherwise, stop the bullshit please.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Actually it is highly likely he will get prosecuted for a homicide charge. Zimmerman shot Trayvon but his whole case is predicated on a self-defence assumption. Because of the lack of witnesses his self-defence plea could get over shadowed by the fact he engaged Trayvon and started the altercation.
Either way this dudes life is ruined (and rightfully so) because even if he does escape jail he’s going to have a bounty on his head. What a fucking asshole. [/quote]
Knowing next to nothing is very dangerous when you think you know a lot.
[quote]four60 wrote:
People love "if"s… If Zimmerman stayed in his car. But he didn’t. So no need to talk about it. Talk about what you know he did.
If he just talked to Martin???
Yes, his 911 had all the signs of a rational impartial mind[/quote]
The actual 911 call or the NBC edited version ?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There is no rational reason to excuse this grown man from chasing after someone and then blame the guy being chased for expecting the worst.
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This. I don’t see how anyone can defend zimmerman.
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There is no rational reason to excuse this grown man from chasing after someone and then blame the guy being chased for expecting the worst.
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This. I don’t see how anyone can defend zimmerman.[/quote]
People with no knowledge of self defense law and those who confuse fighting with self defense can.
Martin was 6’ 160 lbs. Zimmerman was 5’9" and some have said 100 lbs heavier . If this is true Martin was some slow 17 year old if he couldn’t get away from Zimmerman . If Zimmerman approached him and words were exchanged Martin is at fault . People approach me all the time .
Once I was having a very bad day and inadvertantly cut an older lady off in a parking lot.
I didn’t even realize I did it and only found out when she grabbed my arm and started berating me. I said I was sorry, told her both to touch me and walked away . Who started this?
She’d say I did I’m sure . But it was done without any damage to anything but her ego. But if I then assaulted her would I be wrong ? She confronted me first ? If I hit her and knocked her down could she legally shoot me? Even if she initiated the confrontation ?
Again, this is not cut and dry either way. You’re a fool if you think so. You need details not edited 911 calls, supposition , lies from Jesse Jackson and knowledge of the Florida laws.