Tyler Perry on racial Profiling.^
"Perry also raised the cases of two missing men – one black and one Mexican – last seen in the back of a deputy’s patrol car in Naples, Florida, in 2004.
Perry wrote that he has been “screaming at the top of my lungs” about the disappearances of Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos. “They were never arrested, never brought to jail,” Perry wrote."
Does anyone know anything about this case he’s referencing?
Earlier this week, some “Hunger Games” fans tweeted their discontent because the characters of Cinna, Thresh and Rue are played by black actors in the big screen adaptation. This, despite the fact that both Thresh (Dayo Okeniyi) and Rue (Amandla Stenberg) are described as having “dark skin” in Suzanne Collins’ novel, while Cinna (Lenny Kravitz) is simply described as having short brown hair.
Whether fans’ remarks – such as, “Awkward moment when Rue is some black girl and not the little innocent blonde girl you picture” – stem from poor reading comprehension or intolerance, they’re indicative of a larger issue in Hollywood, said Harry M. Benshoff, an associate professor of radio, TV and film at the University of North Texas who co-wrote “America on Film: Representing Race, Class, Gender and Sexuality at the Movies.”
WOW America seems really racially charged this past month.
Oh, but you know if he were posting on this forum, posters would find 500 reasons for why the cops acted like that explaining away how he was treated.
I have to say, after the attitude I got from a cop at night after being questioned for why I was out so late, I know for a fact that my life is on line in some of these instances…and it shouldn’t be that way.
But nothing changes if the reaction is to act like the people complaining of this are all just seeing things.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Earlier this week, some “Hunger Games” fans tweeted their discontent because the characters of Cinna, Thresh and Rue are played by black actors in the big screen adaptation. This, despite the fact that both Thresh (Dayo Okeniyi) and Rue (Amandla Stenberg) are described as having “dark skin” in Suzanne Collins’ novel, while Cinna (Lenny Kravitz) is simply described as having short brown hair.
Whether fans’ remarks – such as, “Awkward moment when Rue is some black girl and not the little innocent blonde girl you picture” – stem from poor reading comprehension or intolerance, they’re indicative of a larger issue in Hollywood, said Harry M. Benshoff, an associate professor of radio, TV and film at the University of North Texas who co-wrote “America on Film: Representing Race, Class, Gender and Sexuality at the Movies.”
WOW America seems really racially charged this past month.
[/quote]
LOL…so characters described as having dark skin are being criticized for choosing black actors to play them?
I’m confused.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Earlier this week, some “Hunger Games” fans tweeted their discontent because the characters of Cinna, Thresh and Rue are played by black actors in the big screen adaptation. This, despite the fact that both Thresh (Dayo Okeniyi) and Rue (Amandla Stenberg) are described as having “dark skin” in Suzanne Collins’ novel, while Cinna (Lenny Kravitz) is simply described as having short brown hair.
Whether fans’ remarks – such as, “Awkward moment when Rue is some black girl and not the little innocent blonde girl you picture” – stem from poor reading comprehension or intolerance, they’re indicative of a larger issue in Hollywood, said Harry M. Benshoff, an associate professor of radio, TV and film at the University of North Texas who co-wrote “America on Film: Representing Race, Class, Gender and Sexuality at the Movies.”
WOW America seems really racially charged this past month.
[/quote]
LOL…so characters described as having dark skin are being criticized for choosing black actors to play them?
I’m confused.[/quote]
But when crimes are commited by people with dark skin, it is not ok to look for black suspects?
Shit pisses me off. Minorities have a hard enough time getting roles as it is. So they get mad at characters that are spelled out in the book being black, being protrayed as so in the movie, just because they invisioned them being white???
Really interested in the cases of the missing poeople, sounds like something the news would have ran with.
And the instance Tyler Perry is describing sounds like good police work. The cop on the passenger side is there to make sure the driver does not have a gun and to visually look for illegal items. So if teh windows are so tinted that the cop can’t see in it is logical to have the driver roll teh window down. The statement about being followed would raise alarms in my head as well because I would instantly think the person I am talking to is not mentally stable or is on some kind of drug. The cop trying to turn off the car is because they think they have a crazy guy who due to his erratic driving is a danger to himself and others. It is comical that the cop reached for a key and there was not one.
I have a question about when he grabs the key from the console he said he got worried? Is that right? I would say in this instance of confusing interaction by both parties that if the cops did not draw their guns they were not to worried about what he was reaching for. It is easy to arm chair quarter back this situation but, as I see it, it was miscommunication between the parties. Also why doesn’t Tyler Perry just say, hey I am Tyler Perry and I make movies. I have need to take special precautions for my safety. I do not see any profiling here at all, they just had no idea what the heck was going on.
I would like to say that making a left hand turn from the right lane is ridiculously dangerous, and I would Like Tyler to rethink that, not because of fear of getting pulled over but out of respect for the rest of the population their lives and wellbeing.
I watched the hunger games with a couple of ladies I hang out with, I did not read the book and had no preconcieved notion of who should be what race. All I can say is that Rue was so cute and innocent in this movie that I felt so horrible when SPOILER ALERT she died. I feel that the purpose of her character was to tug your heart strings, and it got mine pretty good. I thought Lenny Kravits played his part awesome as well. I loved Woody Harrelson that guy always makes me smile.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Earlier this week, some “Hunger Games” fans tweeted their discontent because the characters of Cinna, Thresh and Rue are played by black actors in the big screen adaptation. This, despite the fact that both Thresh (Dayo Okeniyi) and Rue (Amandla Stenberg) are described as having “dark skin” in Suzanne Collins’ novel, while Cinna (Lenny Kravitz) is simply described as having short brown hair.
Whether fans’ remarks – such as, “Awkward moment when Rue is some black girl and not the little innocent blonde girl you picture” – stem from poor reading comprehension or intolerance, they’re indicative of a larger issue in Hollywood, said Harry M. Benshoff, an associate professor of radio, TV and film at the University of North Texas who co-wrote “America on Film: Representing Race, Class, Gender and Sexuality at the Movies.”
WOW America seems really racially charged this past month.
[/quote]
LOL…so characters described as having dark skin are being criticized for choosing black actors to play them?
I’m confused.[/quote]
But when crimes are commited by people with dark skin, it is not ok to look for black suspects?[/quote]
Not if the description is “black male”. I have a bald head, carry more muscle than average…but apparently I still “fit the profile” in many circumstances no matter what.
Skin color is not a reason to pull me over unless I truly fit a more fitting description than “dark”.
These characters were literally described as having dark skin…so yeah, if the public response was that they were white anyway in the minds of readers (enough for them to complain about it), that points to a defective mind of readers.
You don’t brush something like that away. It isn’t easy to overlook either because people clearly saw what they wanted to see…and we see what color that was.
[quote]WW3General wrote:
I would like to say that making a left hand turn from the right lane is ridiculously dangerous, and I would Like Tyler to rethink that, not because of fear of getting pulled over but out of respect for the rest of the population their lives and wellbeing.[/quote]
No shit!!!
I read that article, I can’t believe Frozen Ninja posted that pile of horse shit as some sort of evidence of racial profiling. COPS TREAT EVERYBODY THAT WAY. Especially if you just did something extremely dangerous, and your excuse was you think you are being followed.
And Professor X, THEY ASK EVERYBODY WHAT THEY ARE DOING. You honestly think your life is in danger because a cop asks you what you are doing?
Are the black people in this thread for real right now? Is this real life? Is that really what you are up in arms about?
Unbelievable. You are the saddest, most pathetic bunch of pussies I have seen in a while. Go back and read Jewbacca’s posts about real racial discrimination.
X as far as the hunger games thing is concerned I read that people reading books visualize the characters as similar to them. That would make sense as to why all the white people who read the book thought the characters were white with a tan, and all the black people who read the book decided they were black.
[quote]WW3General wrote:
X as far as the hunger games thing is concerned I read that people reading books visualize the characters as similar to them. That would make sense as to why all the white people who read the book thought the characters were white with a tan, and all the black people who read the book decided they were black.[/quote]
Yeah I can understand someone identifying with a character to the point of inserting themselves into the role. But some of the Crying that went on about it spoiling the whole movie for them is just silly as hell.
And why would anyone post a Tyler Perry Anything in a T-Nation thread. I would have had more passion for the topic if Flavor Flav wrote it. I hate Tyler Perry with the firey passion of a million suns. And I fell sic about it. The man has done nothing but make Millions and create jobs, all good things…but I hate his work like crack heads hate having a Giant piece of Crack and a empty lighter. My niece made me sit thru a video of one of his plays and I stll feel dirty from the memory of it.
He is the Anti Christ.
Sorry guys you can go back to whatever just had to get that out.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Earlier this week, some “Hunger Games” fans tweeted their discontent because the characters of Cinna, Thresh and Rue are played by black actors in the big screen adaptation. This, despite the fact that both Thresh (Dayo Okeniyi) and Rue (Amandla Stenberg) are described as having “dark skin” in Suzanne Collins’ novel, while Cinna (Lenny Kravitz) is simply described as having short brown hair.
Whether fans’ remarks – such as, “Awkward moment when Rue is some black girl and not the little innocent blonde girl you picture” – stem from poor reading comprehension or intolerance, they’re indicative of a larger issue in Hollywood, said Harry M. Benshoff, an associate professor of radio, TV and film at the University of North Texas who co-wrote “America on Film: Representing Race, Class, Gender and Sexuality at the Movies.”
WOW America seems really racially charged this past month.
[/quote]
LOL…so characters described as having dark skin are being criticized for choosing black actors to play them?
I’m confused.[/quote]
But when crimes are commited by people with dark skin, it is not ok to look for black suspects?[/quote]
Not if the description is “black male”. I have a bald head, carry more muscle than average…but apparently I still “fit the profile” in many circumstances no matter what.
Skin color is not a reason to pull me over unless I truly fit a more fitting description than “dark”.
These characters were literally described as having dark skin…so yeah, if the public response was that they were white anyway in the minds of readers (enough for them to complain about it), that points to a defective mind of readers.
You don’t brush something like that away. It isn’t easy to overlook either because people clearly saw what they wanted to see…and we see what color that was.[/quote]
Black is black one way or another. I mean really I’m agreeing with you. I just realize that a category remains constant across various contexts.
Usually when people have to imagine an image, they visualize what they are familiar with and fill in gaps with what they know.
To me dark skin would describe hispanics or blacks but I can see how that could be taken as tanned or dark in comparison to the average honkey.
Creating a fuss is a bit much though and potential cause for concern.
All of this. What an idiotic fucking anecdote from Perry.
Some people really need to use common sense when dealing with cops… because maybe they won’t be so ridiculously paranoid about getting killed once they realize that making questionable comments followed by abrupt movements isn’t the right way to handle an encounter with a LEO. Not matter what your skin color is.
“If you get stopped by the police, especially if they are white policemen, you say ‘yes sir’ and ‘no sir’, and if they want to take you in, you go with them,” Perry said his mother often told him. “Don’t resist, you hear me? Don’t make any quick moves, don’t run, you just go.”
This is my exact mentality when it comes to dealing with cops.
I am a white, clean-cut male who drives an unassuming car in excellent condition. Clearly, TP feels I routinely hop out of my car and high-five the officers as they approach me whenever I get pulled over.
Nope. I’m polite, abide the common sense rules for LEO interaction (interior light on, hands on steering wheel, etc), am apologetic, take the chop-busting without getting offended (hint: none of this, “I think you guys need to just write the ticket and do whatever you need to do” nonsense) and not only never get pistol whipped on the side of the road, but have yet to even get a ticket since adopting this approach.
It’s funny how he talks about racial profiling putting him at risk during traffic stops when he clearly acts like a complete jackass whenever he gets pulled over.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh, but you know if he were posting on this forum, posters would find 500 reasons for why the cops acted like that explaining away how he was treated.
[/quote]
Nah, 2 reasons should be good enough.
-
He was driving like an asshole.
-
He was acting like a paranoid weirdo once he got pulled over.
I’ve gotten worse treatment from white cops for a lot less than that.
“I signaled to get into the turning lane, then made the turn because I have to be sure I’m not being followed,” Perry said he told the officer.
This is not a normal response and I could see why it would raise an eyebrow regardless of the race of the person talking like this.
And it definitely does not justify this conclusion:
"Racial profiling “should be a hate crime investigated by the FBI,” filmmaker Tyler Perry wrote in a Facebook posting Sunday in which he described his own tense encounter with police.
Hate crime right?
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh, but you know if he were posting on this forum, posters would find 500 reasons for why the cops acted like that explaining away how he was treated.
[/quote]
Nah, 2 reasons should be good enough.
-
He was driving like an asshole.
-
He was acting like a paranoid weirdo once he got pulled over.
I’ve gotten worse treatment from white cops for a lot less than that.
“I signaled to get into the turning lane, then made the turn because I have to be sure I’m not being followed,” Perry said he told the officer.
This is not a normal response and I could see why it would raise an eyebrow regardless of the race of the person talking like this.
And it definitely does not justify this conclusion:
"Racial profiling “should be a hate crime investigated by the FBI,” filmmaker Tyler Perry wrote in a Facebook posting Sunday in which he described his own tense encounter with police.
Hate crime right?
[/quote]
Other than acting like a suspicious asshole and being outraged at being treated like one, the most ironic part is that the FBI use racial profiling hardcore. Because profiling simply makes sense and race is an obvious aspect of a profile.
Where do people see a link between what happened to Perry and racial profiling? And what did the officers do wrong anyway?
Personally… While I’d greatly prefer LEO to be more polite (those which aren’t already… Would help with the inevitable tension), they are there to enforce the law, not make people feel comfortable in such situations…