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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
You all should try to lose your cool and curse like a sailor in German.

That tends to rattle people quite a bit.

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German is such a beautiful language.[/quote]

I can only hope that this was ironic.

It is great for swearing, awesome if you want to bellow some orders and it lends itself to be used for philosophy and the practical arts, i.e. engineering and such, but the only reason why any German beds a woman is because his competition also speaks German.

It is exact, it is precise, but it has no natural flow.

Unless of course we revisit the genius of Falco who was one of the first to use German as a rhythm instrument, because that actually works.[/quote]

It was sarcastic. Russian is pretty much the same way.

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I saw an interview with the 13 year old kid. He’s black, and looked super uncomfortable during the interview, which was right in the midst of all the madness.

I think it is just as likely that he’s receiving pressure from his family/the black community because his story supports Zimmerman’s account.

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Wait…so there WERE other black people in this neighborhood?

WTF?

Then why the hell was this kid chased at all? Unless there is some community rule where Zimmerman must be made aware of all visitors, this was bullshit.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wait…so there WERE other black people in this neighborhood?

WTF?

Then why the hell was this kid chased at all? Unless there is some community rule where Zimmerman must be made aware of all visitors, this was bullshit.[/quote]

According to some of the news reports, this is a fairly mixed neighborhood. And even if there was some rule about reporting visitors, Zimmerman would not have had to be notified. He didn’t even have the authority to patrol at all. I posted a link a few pages back detailing the role and responsibilities of the volunteers like Zimmerman and basically, they are just allowed to keep their eyes open and call the cops. Zimmerman’s trainer actually made a statement that her training program specifically tells the volunteers NOT to chase and question people.

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Or perhaps his race had nothing to do with it, and Zimmerman thought some kid he had never seen before standing outside in the rain was pretty damn weird?

You need to chill out dude. You are trying to push the race angle at costs and it’s making you look foolish.

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wait…so there WERE other black people in this neighborhood?

WTF?

Then why the hell was this kid chased at all? Unless there is some community rule where Zimmerman must be made aware of all visitors, this was bullshit.[/quote]

According to some of the news reports, this is a fairly mixed neighborhood. And even if there was some rule about reporting visitors, Zimmerman would not have had to be notified. He didn’t even have the authority to patrol at all. I posted a link a few pages back detailing the role and responsibilities of the volunteers like Zimmerman and basically, they are just allowed to keep their eyes open and call the cops. Zimmerman’s trainer actually made a statement that her training program specifically tells the volunteers NOT to chase and question people.
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Question.

Did Zimmerman ever say he was going to ask questions or was this another “What if”?

I’m asking because it’s come up a lot in the thread and I want to know if this is just the thread or Zimmerman

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The reason people aren’t jumping to side with Zimmerman is because they probably didn’t see anything and have nothing useful to offer. People are jumping to side with Martin because he’s dead and certainly didn’t deserve it. That’s why all these cartoons with Skittles Vs Gun are coming out … it’s just too easy to ignore. But that doesn’t make it relevant.

Defending Zimmerman based on his personality is irrelevant, just like the Martin smear campaign. Whether the kid was a thug, drug dealer, or rapist, it does not justify his death. I think the Martin smear campaign with thug pictures is absolutely retarded … ESPECIALLY when the photos are fake.

Whether Zimmerman was a model citizen who ran charities is also irrelevant. The actions are the only thing that really matter. The only exception would be Zimmerman-related mental issues like we’ve discussed.

If Martin was a legitimately bad kid, I bet more people would side with Zimmerman … even though it’s irrelevant how well behaved Martin was. The fact that was he generally a good kid jerks tears pretty easily.

Sorry for the semi-threadjack.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wait…so there WERE other black people in this neighborhood?

WTF?

Then why the hell was this kid chased at all? Unless there is some community rule where Zimmerman must be made aware of all visitors, this was bullshit.[/quote]

I’m not sure if you were being sacarstic, lol, but yeah there’re some other blacks in that hood.

Zimfuck started sending emails to the community saying ‘‘if you see a black person doing this, let me know…’’ so much that some black residents didn’t even want to go out at certain hours because they matched the profile Zimmfucks had described and, also they didn’t want to be blamed for the crimes in the community nor harassed by that loose canon. There was also a young black boy who stated that Zims would often ask him if he lived there, what he was up to, even though he was just hanging around with his friend, causing no trouble.

I posted the link in one of the previous threads. I’ll try to find it.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wait…so there WERE other black people in this neighborhood?

WTF?

Then why the hell was this kid chased at all? Unless there is some community rule where Zimmerman must be made aware of all visitors, this was bullshit.[/quote]

According to some of the news reports, this is a fairly mixed neighborhood. And even if there was some rule about reporting visitors, Zimmerman would not have had to be notified. He didn’t even have the authority to patrol at all. I posted a link a few pages back detailing the role and responsibilities of the volunteers like Zimmerman and basically, they are just allowed to keep their eyes open and call the cops. Zimmerman’s trainer actually made a statement that her training program specifically tells the volunteers NOT to chase and question people.
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Question.

Did Zimmerman ever say he was going to ask questions or was this another “What if”?

I’m asking because it’s come up a lot in the thread and I want to know if this is just the thread or Zimmerman[/quote]

No, that is just another what if that will never be known. I imagine Zimmerman told the cops that he was just going to see where he was going or something like that to cover his ass. I don’t buy it, but there is no way to prove otherwise.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Well, shit, I have agreed with pretty much every thing you said DN and I am multilingual BUT I actually do mix the languages when I swear. Even though I predominantly speak and think in English, swearing parts of a curse in my native tongue (Dutch) makes me feel a bit better since no one understands what I am saying. I can really let loose, you know :)[/quote]

Are you saying you mix Dutch with English when you swear in Dutch?

Ah dang it!

Lol.

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If I’m speaking English, it’s all in English.

If I’m speaking Japanese, I mix some English in – but only if I’m REALLY angry.[/quote]

I’ve seen this in Japanese porn also.
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Ah, shit…

Um, er, that white dude was NOT me, Four![/quote]

Hahahahahahahahaha

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

He said he walked away like he was uninjured, didn’t he? And that he couldn’t see any blood.

I know if you have a broken nose, you ACT like you have a broken nose.

They gave that kid a multiple choice quiz an told him to pick a color so they could tell which jacket was on top.

The guy who saw the fight said there was very little movement and then gun fire.

That sure as hell sounds like a struggle for the weapon to me.

…and to the people asking why someone would fight a guy with a gun instead of run, it depends on how close Zimmerman was when the kid saw it. You can’t outrun a bullet…and if Zimmerman was in the process of pulling it out, yeah, it would make sense to try to wrestle it out of his hand depending on that fight or flight response.

No one is thinking with a level head when their life is on the line.[/quote]

I don’t know, man. Their accounts are definitely possible, but I have a hard time believing them. First, why did it take so long for the one witness to come forward? Also, why did it take so long for the mother to tell the press about how the police questioned her son? Last time I checked, police can’t question kids without a parent or guardian present. This just smacks of people making stuff up to get attention and/or money. I don’t have any proof of this of course, but it doesn’t add up to me. I wonder if they were paid at all by the news companies. I also wonder why one witness supposedly couldn’t see a thing and yet the other could see clearly enough to state there was no blood.

EDIT: I just looked it up and apparently police do not need a parent’s consent to questiona child, so I was wrong about that.[/quote]I agree with these inconsistencies raising a red flag.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
This is some bullshit really. If this happened in the 90’s I could understand all these photo/video-Less witness statements . But how did all these people claim to see something but no vids no pics??

Almost every phone on the planet has a camera. Hell even a dark blurry pic is better than what you think you might have possibly seen.

We have an old lady on the corner who takes pics of the pizza guys car if he is parked to long.

Mannnn fuck that block.

I’m kinda joking but kinda not.

21st century mofo’ers

(I just watched a vid someone posted in GAL of a girl dry humping a tree and I counted 20 people clicking pics with a cell)[/quote]

I find it hard to believe that one guy who gave a pretty clear account about something that supposedly happened in the dark on a walkway behind the main road. The other witness’ mom says it was too dark to see anything, but this guy was close enough to not only see the fight but also see that Zimmerman was uninjured? I hope that if the police did pressure that kid into giving his statement, they get fired. I really want to see the coroner’s report, the rest of the police reports, and any pictures of Zimmerman’s supposed injuries. There has been way too much lying by the media for both sides that I refuse to believe anything they say at this point. And you have a great point about the video. If I see a fight, I am going to record it and put it on youtube right away.
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He said he walked away like he was uninjured, didn’t he? And that he couldn’t see any blood.

I know if you have a broken nose, you ACT like you have a broken nose.

They gave that kid a multiple choice quiz an told him to pick a color so they could tell which jacket was on top.

The guy who saw the fight said there was very little movement and then gun fire.

That sure as hell sounds like a struggle for the weapon to me.

…and to the people asking why someone would fight a guy with a gun instead of run, it depends on how close Zimmerman was when the kid saw it. You can’t outrun a bullet…and if Zimmerman was in the process of pulling it out, yeah, it would make sense to try to wrestle it out of his hand depending on that fight or flight response.

No one is thinking with a level head when their life is on the line.[/quote]
Explain “acting like you have a broken nose”

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

Oh, sure.

Thank and respond to everyone who answered your question except for me!

:-)[/quote]

Haha!

460 and his Japanese porn anecdote distracted me.

Sorry :slight_smile:

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
I don’t know, man. Their accounts are definitely possible, but I have a hard time believing them. First, why did it take so long for the one witness to come forward? Also, why did it take so long for the mother to tell the press about how the police questioned her son? Last time I checked, police can’t question kids without a parent or guardian present. This just smacks of people making stuff up to get attention and/or money. I don’t have any proof of this of course, but it doesn’t add up to me. I wonder if they were paid at all by the news companies. I also wonder why one witness supposedly couldn’t see a thing and yet the other could see clearly enough to state there was no blood.

EDIT: I just looked it up and apparently police do not need a parent’s consent to questiona child, so I was wrong about that.[/quote]I agree with these inconsistencies raising a red flag.
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Are you two honestly suggesting that the media spin and national outcry over this is making some witnesses… rethink… what really happened that night? That some overly concerned mother, after hearing about the death threats/bounty and national effort to put Zimmerman’s head on a platter, doesn’t want her precious child to go on the record with testimony that might potentially EXONERATE that racist, degenerate scumbag?

Am I really hearing that the thuggish Black Panther vigilantes might have actually made some witnesses feel suddenly unsure about what they saw and how their accounts were recorded?

Am I really hearing that no one wants to be in the public eye for DEFENDING that guilty-as-sin murderer?

Nonsense.

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[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
@HoustonGuy

IF you know your neighborhood well enough, you can tell if someone is fighting in “THe grassy area by your house” or not. Also the fact that The witness who saw the whole struggle couldn’t see who was besting who, and minimal struggle before the gunshot went off is BIG news to the investigation.[/quote]
Sidewalks cross cross grass in most communities, especially townhomes and more especially in the posted maps with little tiny strips of grass. Anyone who’s been in a fight knows they don’t happen in like two square feet. Darkness can play tricks on perceptions in familiar territory. Hell if you’re not careful, you’ll trip in your own bedroom.

I would like to know objectively what “minimal struggle” means to a guy who didn’t even know what he was seeing according to his own statements.

It’s really, really odd it took so long for him to come forward and conveniently but subtly add doubt to other testimony. Couldn’t see who was on top, definitely recognized two very different individuals though! If there was a scream for help, he didn’t mention it (no, that would corroborate Zimmermans story further given the voices were ID’d), couldn’t see blood but presents this fact as if he should’ve when he couldn’t even make out the fight…

I would love to know who this media mystery man is. Talk about conspiracy. Big ratings = big business and we’ve def. been tuned in to a media soap opera.

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WOW. That video is the sum of what has been going on in these threads. I think that was interesting. Both made very good points.