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[quote]JLD2k3 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

Quoting myself before this is lost in X’s trolling us on the definition of pasty.
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How do you know he pulled out a phone?
Was a call made?

If not, that is not a FACT.

He could have easily pulled out his gun instead.
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That is plausible. He went for his gun but when questioned he claims he went for his phone. I’m not saying it is what happened but it is a possibility that isn’t far-fetched and given how Zimmerman supposedly was the one screaming like a girl it wouldn’t be surprising if he was so scared of the hooded black man that he went for his weapon. [/quote]

If it turns out that Zimmerman took out his gun before any altercation than trayvon is completely justified in kicking his ass and Zimmerman should be held accountable for treyvons death. We’ll see what happens though.
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What if Zimmerman were indeed going for his phone and Trayvon thought, as this strange man had been chasing him, he was going for a weapon? It would be reasonable, IMO, for him to think that given the circumstances. This is why my position is that whether or not Zimmerman broke any laws he still used very poor judgment. Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility and you shouldn’t look for trouble when you carry one because in the end, right or wrong, lawful or unlawful, it can ruin your life. If he is a good person as his family and friends claim then he can’t feel too good knowing he killed someone when it could have been avoided. And even if he doesn’t face criminal charges, you know he will be in civil court at some point. [/quote]

Hadn’t he seen the end of Gran Torino? [/quote]

HAHA!

Ya, If he pulled out his phone and not a gun, treyvon does not have the right to attack him. A phone does not put someone’s life in imminemt danger, even if they think it is a gun.

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Weak man with gun runs afoul of young tough, tragedy ensues, one dead, other life ruined. Not that unexpected really.

That first boy angel picture released by the media was reprehensible.

Kid’s parents trying to make money off his death is reprehensible.

Imo, people in make-believe “law enforcement” almost always have issues which should preclude them from being allowed to carry weapons. Same with a lot of people in real law enforcement too but hey it is what it is.

Bounty on a human being? In the US? Nice.

Obama is the damn President of the whole USA. He should be preaching reason and calm, not taking sides. Very disapointing.

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[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
ITs a soccer fight. It just so happens it’s between opposite races IDK what posting that was trying to prove. Fights happen between athletes in sporting events all the damn time. Don’t you remember that brawl in college bball not too long ago???[/quote]
Just so happens huh?

Interesting.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
ITs a soccer fight. It just so happens it’s between opposite races IDK what posting that was trying to prove. Fights happen between athletes in sporting events all the damn time. Don’t you remember that brawl in college bball not too long ago???[/quote]
Just so happens huh?

Interesting.[/quote]

x2. If only this logic could be applied elswhere

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[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[[quote]Professor X wrote:

the real question is why any black person who mentions race is somehow “racist” for doing so.

[/quote]

No, the question is why a black person (or anyone) automatically assumes race was the driving factor in this case without knowing all the facts. [/quote]

?? Zimmerman was on the look out for black men in the neighborhood. I would say he was looking for race quite a bit.

In fact, that isn’t even a question at this point.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Pasty, according to Websters can also mean unhealthy. It is funny what people choose to focus on.

Illogical: Short, fat, unmuscled guy running after Tall, athletic young teenager…IN THE RAIN…after leaving his car and stating “they always get away”…but no weapon drawn in an effort to not tail but literally run up to and question (and possibly retain until cops arrived).

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past�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�·y/�??past�??/
Noun:
A folded pastry case filled with seasoned meat and vegetables.
Adjective:
(of a person’s face) Unhealthily pale.

It’s even funnier how you try to lie when everyone can google the fucking definition for themselves in 3 seconds.[/quote]

?? That word means pale or unhealthy. How the fuck does this not describe Zimmerman?
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Actually it is referring to an unhealthy complexion in everything I see.
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And? He is pale and unhealthy. Are some of you claiming only someone completely white can be pale and unhealthy?

The argument doesn’t even make sense.[/quote]

It’s only referring to complexion. Like if someone fainted and their skin went pale, that would be pasty. Fat doesn’t seem to fit. it is, either say a skin color reference predominately.

You said flabby and pasty were interchangeable, but a black guy can’t be pasty.

It is at minimum an interesting word choice. Like if I were to call Trayvon “the ebony kid” and I mean like the tree (he is tall after all).[/quote]

This whole last page has been guys complaining because pasty was used to describe a half white out of shape guy.

That’s sad.

The discussion was about what an armed man was planning to do after he caught the guy he was chasing.

Nice deflection…but it sucks.[/quote]

No the discussion was about you using a skin color reference in a negative way in the discussion. I think the rest was trying to get you the admit what everyone already knows.

The second part has been address in approximately 3 million previous posts all of which you’ve ignored.[/quote]

The guy is fat and pale. How is that using a skin color reference in a negative way?

Unless “pasty” is now a racial slur your “offense” is a joke.

We were told many times in this thread that being offended means someone else needs to handle your emotions for you.

Why is that only applied in one direction?[/quote]

At least he wasn’t a ginger…was that racist? [/quote]

LOL

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

Quoting myself before this is lost in X’s trolling us on the definition of pasty.
[/quote]

How do you know he pulled out a phone?
Was a call made?

If not, that is not a FACT.

He could have easily pulled out his gun instead.
[/quote]

That is plausible. He went for his gun but when questioned he claims he went for his phone. I’m not saying it is what happened but it is a possibility that isn’t far-fetched and given how Zimmerman supposedly was the one screaming like a girl it wouldn’t be surprising if he was so scared of the hooded black man that he went for his weapon. [/quote]

exactly…But I see people want to pretend that “pasty” is a racial slur suddenly as if the man is NOT half white.

Zimmerman is about as “brown” as any Italian I have seen.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

Quoting myself before this is lost in X’s trolling us on the definition of pasty.
[/quote]

How do you know he pulled out a phone?
Was a call made?

If not, that is not a FACT.

He could have easily pulled out his gun instead.
[/quote]

That is plausible. He went for his gun but when questioned he claims he went for his phone. I’m not saying it is what happened but it is a possibility that isn’t far-fetched and given how Zimmerman supposedly was the one screaming like a girl it wouldn’t be surprising if he was so scared of the hooded black man that he went for his weapon. [/quote]

If it turns out that Zimmerman took out his gun before any altercation than trayvon is completely justified in kicking his ass and Zimmerman should be held accountable for treyvons death. We’ll see what happens though.
[/quote]

What if Zimmerman were indeed going for his phone and Trayvon thought, as this strange man had been chasing him, he was going for a weapon? It would be reasonable, IMO, for him to think that given the circumstances. This is why my position is that whether or not Zimmerman broke any laws he still used very poor judgment. Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility and you shouldn’t look for trouble when you carry one because in the end, right or wrong, lawful or unlawful, it can ruin your life. If he is a good person as his family and friends claim then he can’t feel too good knowing he killed someone when it could have been avoided. And even if he doesn’t face criminal charges, you know he will be in civil court at some point. [/quote]

Agree once again.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[[quote]Professor X wrote:

the real question is why any black person who mentions race is somehow “racist” for doing so.

[/quote]

No, the question is why a black person (or anyone) automatically assumes race was the driving factor in this case without knowing all the facts. [/quote]

?? Zimmerman was on the look out for black men in the neighborhood. I would say he was looking for race quite a bit.

In fact, that isn’t even a question at this point.[/quote]

Uh, yes it is. we have no idea if he was or wasn’t looking for black guys.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

Quoting myself before this is lost in X’s trolling us on the definition of pasty.
[/quote]

How do you know he pulled out a phone?
Was a call made?

If not, that is not a FACT.

He could have easily pulled out his gun instead.
[/quote]

That is plausible. He went for his gun but when questioned he claims he went for his phone. I’m not saying it is what happened but it is a possibility that isn’t far-fetched and given how Zimmerman supposedly was the one screaming like a girl it wouldn’t be surprising if he was so scared of the hooded black man that he went for his weapon. [/quote]

exactly…But I see people want to pretend that “pasty” is a racial slur suddenly as if the man is NOT half white.

Zimmerman is about as “brown” as any Italian I have seen.[/quote]

Please quote anywhere where anyone called pasty a racial slur.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
ITs a soccer fight. It just so happens it’s between opposite races IDK what posting that was trying to prove. Fights happen between athletes in sporting events all the damn time. Don’t you remember that brawl in college bball not too long ago???[/quote]
Just so happens huh?

Interesting.[/quote]

I have to admit I had fun setting that trap for the reverse-bigots.

It must be difficult for them to think with so much cognative dissonance in their heads:

"black on white attack = not racism

(any other color) attack on black = white racism"

Bit like Winston Smith in “1984,” except “political correctness” instead of “new think.”

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

Quoting myself before this is lost in X’s trolling us on the definition of pasty.
[/quote]

How do you know he pulled out a phone?
Was a call made?

If not, that is not a FACT.

He could have easily pulled out his gun instead.
[/quote]

That is plausible. He went for his gun but when questioned he claims he went for his phone. I’m not saying it is what happened but it is a possibility that isn’t far-fetched and given how Zimmerman supposedly was the one screaming like a girl it wouldn’t be surprising if he was so scared of the hooded black man that he went for his weapon. [/quote]

exactly…But I see people want to pretend that “pasty” is a racial slur suddenly as if the man is NOT half white.

Zimmerman is about as “brown” as any Italian I have seen.[/quote]

Please quote anywhere where anyone called pasty a racial slur.[/quote]

Do you honestly expect Professor X to argue in good faith, stick with the facts and avoid red herrings and strawman arguments?

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
ITs a soccer fight. It just so happens it’s between opposite races IDK what posting that was trying to prove. Fights happen between athletes in sporting events all the damn time. Don’t you remember that brawl in college bball not too long ago???[/quote]
Just so happens huh?

Interesting.[/quote]

I have to admit I had fun setting that trap for the reverse-bigots.

It must be difficult for them to think with so much cognative dissonance in their heads:

"black on white attack = not racism

(any other color) attack on black = white racism"

Bit like Winston Smith in “1984,” except “political correctness” instead of “new think.”[/quote]

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[[quote]Professor X wrote:

the real question is why any black person who mentions race is somehow “racist” for doing so.

[/quote]

No, the question is why a black person (or anyone) automatically assumes race was the driving factor in this case without knowing all the facts. [/quote]

?? Zimmerman was on the look out for black men in the neighborhood. I would say he was looking for race quite a bit.

In fact, that isn’t even a question at this point.[/quote]

Zimmerman was on the lookout because his community was victim to multipe burglaries in the last year. Many of the suspects were reported to have been black. Very convenient for you to leave that out.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[[quote]Professor X wrote:

the real question is why any black person who mentions race is somehow “racist” for doing so.

[/quote]

No, the question is why a black person (or anyone) automatically assumes race was the driving factor in this case without knowing all the facts. [/quote]

?? Zimmerman was on the look out for black men in the neighborhood. I would say he was looking for race quite a bit.

In fact, that isn’t even a question at this point.[/quote]

Uh, yes it is. we have no idea if he was or wasn’t looking for black guys.[/quote]

OK…so if the race of the individuals who robbed the place before was NOT who he was after, then I assume we have proof of him questioning ANYONE ELSE of any other race?

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

Quoting myself before this is lost in X’s trolling us on the definition of pasty.
[/quote]

How do you know he pulled out a phone?
Was a call made?

If not, that is not a FACT.

He could have easily pulled out his gun instead.
[/quote]

That is plausible. He went for his gun but when questioned he claims he went for his phone. I’m not saying it is what happened but it is a possibility that isn’t far-fetched and given how Zimmerman supposedly was the one screaming like a girl it wouldn’t be surprising if he was so scared of the hooded black man that he went for his weapon. [/quote]

exactly…But I see people want to pretend that “pasty” is a racial slur suddenly as if the man is NOT half white.

Zimmerman is about as “brown” as any Italian I have seen.[/quote]

Please quote anywhere where anyone called pasty a racial slur.[/quote]

It was argued that it was a negative race remark. What is that but a racial slur?

Are we playing word games?

[quote]Doubleduce wrote:
No the discussion was about you using a skin color reference in a negative way in the discussion[/quote]

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This smacks of the media attention give to the Duke Lacrosse case from a few years ago.

Using the court of public opinion to race bait is a horrible thing.

Bounties on humans, Sharpton, Jackson, Spike Lee, all wanting summary judgement…all before the evidence has even been fully processed…now who is Judge Dredd?

Yet another example of people desperately wanting something to be a certain way to justify their anger…no matter the cost.

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Killerman’s token friend epic grilling. Awesome. That guy is so clueless when it comes to Zimmerman. LMFAO. Fucking imbecile. That’s what you get for covering up for a fucking racist killer.

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Pictures of TM few days before his death