pfury
May 19, 2017, 12:28am
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I haven’t read it myself, does he define race? Serious question.
For as groundbreaking as that book was, the real question is still–“why would we allow the OPINIONS of a guy–even a smart guy–who wrote 150 years ago to dictate modern science?”
Modern genetics didn’t exist, phrenology was considered a solid science, and there were still peolle who actively advocated the hollow earth theory.
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therajraj:
Dear @Aragorn I was under the impression you were a science guy and that I would be able to get you to agree to some degree with my stance. Since you haven’t walked back your statement of ethnic brains I am correct but to a much lesser extent than I expected.
From the beginning of thread you have engaged in moralistic fallacy (see your shrieking over physical correlates to iq) the moment you are presented with an uncomfortable scientific conclusion. I think you also called me a white supremacist when I made a list of known racial differences.
The thing is if You define yourself as a science guy and you are willing to ignore uncomfortable facts here, what else are you willing to let slide in your day to day work?
Nice try at trolling. You have demonstrated the complete inability to respond to intellectual stimuli honestly, so I stopped giving it to you. Why would I cast pearls before intellectual swine?
Answer–I won’t. But, since I know you have a hard-on for thinking you’re the smartest person in the thread despite all evidence to the contrary,I hrant you the grace to continue on in your ignorance.
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Yep, that was your mistake.
You couldn’t define your position outside tautological, twisted platitudes, even given repeated urgings to do so. You couldn’t understand the links to actual studies you were linking. You couldn’t respond intelligibly to evaluations of your links.
Why the fuck would you persuade me of your opinion again? You couldn’t even define your terms.
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therajraj:
Randomized controlled trials are necessary to judge the efficacy of obesity treatments, especially when crafting broad prescriptions for treatment. *Popular conceptions of weight-loss – even in the minds of medical professionals – are biased by odd examples of individuals with impressive short-term weight loss or rare individuals who managed to maintain a lowered weight for a long period of time. This is obviously improper, because it ignores the fact that these individuals are exceptional. The efficacy of any treatment, especially one that is to be recommended as a general prescription to treat any condition, needs to be subjected to clinical trials to judge their effect across the population to which the treatment is intended. This is what we do for new drugs.
However, even these have their limits. RCTs of lifestyle modifications are plagued by considerable non-compliance, even for those who remain in the study. This is especially acute towards the later parts of the longer trials. Some commenters correctly point out that this weakens any conclusions we can draw because we don’t know what the results would be if the subjects stuck to the trial.
Great plagiarism. You didn’t write any of that.
Raj is, in fact, a plagiarist. Here’s the source of the lengthy quote:
He did post the link right before the quote block. That said, it’s hilarious a blog post by “Jaymans” is supposed to be taken seriously.
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treco
May 19, 2017, 11:29am
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I am rajacus.
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Fair enough, but why do you doubt the authority of the mighty and well-respected Jayman?
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It’s that low Jamaican IQ…
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Aragorn:
therajraj:
Dear @Aragorn I was under the impression you were a science guy and that I would be able to get you to agree to some degree with my stance. Since you haven’t walked back your statement of ethnic brains I am correct but to a much lesser extent than I expected.
From the beginning of thread you have engaged in moralistic fallacy (see your shrieking over physical correlates to iq) the moment you are presented with an uncomfortable scientific conclusion. I think you also called me a white supremacist when I made a list of known racial differences.
The thing is if You define yourself as a science guy and you are willing to ignore uncomfortable facts here, what else are you willing to let slide in your day to day work?
Nice try at trolling. You have demonstrated the complete inability to respond to intellectual stimuli honestly, so I stopped giving it to you. Why would I cast pearls before intellectual swine?
Answer–I won’t. But, since I know you have a hard-on for thinking you’re the smartest person in the thread despite all evidence to the contrary,I hrant you the grace to continue on in your ignorance.
Aragorn:
Yep, that was your mistake.
You couldn’t define your position outside tautological, twisted platitudes, even given repeated urgings to do so. You couldn’t understand the links to actual studies you were linking. You couldn’t respond intelligibly to evaluations of your links.
Why the fuck would you persuade me of your opinion again? You couldn’t even define your terms.
What I’ve posted isn’t my personal pet theory, it’s shared by plenty of highly respected people. Crick, Hamilton, Watson, E.O. Wilson and several others. Tell me, are you just going to ignore their opinions too?
The fact that you haven’t even given this stuff a fair shake looking through studies posted, says more about you than anything else. In one breath you say I should listen to the people who study this stuff and in another you openly ignore the fact this is supported by a nobel laureate whose work is in the field of genetics.
In reality, you are some push over nice guy from the midwest who can’t handle science when it comes to mean conclusions
Look right above moron.
You have posted links from Amren
You wrote this:
“Sorry I don’t believe they have the same intellectual capability”
So you are telling me that you have never used the building blocks of the knowledge and experience that you have personally been exposed to, to create a solution or ‘new to you, anyway’ way of solving an issue?
I want you to think hard about how you have taken the properties of various substrates, welding alloys, working conditions/environment, equipment at hand, and function of the finished good; then create a close to ideal solution to actually build the finished part. Or ED doing the same wi…
You are a two-faced dude
It’s an argument, try refuting it.
therajraj:
try refuting it.
Sure:
This is obesity in 1990:
This is obesity in 2015:
We didn’t suddenly mutate into the fat X-men.
Learn more about the American Heart Association's efforts to reduce death caused by heart disease and stroke. Also learn about cardiovascular conditions, ECC and CPR, donating, heart disease information for healthcare professionals, caregivers, and...
https://www.cdc.gov/healthyschools/obesity/facts.htm
So on and so forth…
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thunderbolt23:
Yep. Well said.
Of all the directions this thread could go, this is probably the most ridiculous:
Soda:
Fast Food:
Might as well just re-post this:
and this one:
By The Numbers: What Americans Drink In A Year | HuffPost Life
"AdAge recently reported on American per capita beverage consumption for 2010. Perhaps it comes as no surprise that carbonated soft drinks are the most-consumed beverages, with an average of 44.7 gallons consumed per person, per year. "
45 gallons of soda a year. That’s 5,760 oz = 720 servings of Pepsi = 19,440 grams of sugar from soda alone a year (assuming Pepsi is the drink of choice). That’s about 288 sodas a year. I mean my God.
Fast Food Still Major Part of U.S. Diet
“Fast Food Still Major Part of U.S. Diet
80% eat fast food monthly with 76% responding that the food itself was not too good or not good at all for them. YET THEY EAT IT ANYWAY
How the fuck can you possibly sit here and say it’s Corporate Americas fault people are fat. They put out a product or products that people clearly want.
Something pointed out to me:
This article that recently came out from leftist rag Vox :
doesn’t deny IQ measures intelligence
doesn’t call the tests culturally biased
acknowledges the black white IQ gap
The lies are coming apart, what’s old will become new again
Now demonstrate excercise and diet are effective in fighting obesity long-term
Ok, fair. I will withdraw that
