Will he subsequently ignore scientific evidence that doesn’t agree with his preconceived notion? Because tbh that’s what fuels the racist comments towards yourself.
As I haven’t seen him ignore scientific evidence I don’t think it’s fair to lump him in with you.
It’s only “risky” because it directly conflicts with the Declaration of Independence. If you were to say you’re not an egalitarian in China I bet you’d be met with applause. It’s all about the viewpoint of the people you say it to.
Actually it’s worse than cousin marraige. In the early middle ages the Ottomans/Muslims led in math, astronomy, cartography, lenz grinding etc… then in the 1500s they dismantled it all due to the rising power of the clerics. They banned printed books, research, tore down the world’s biggest observatory etc.
Also when you bring up cousin marriage in the middle ages I couldn’t help but think of the Hapsburgs. The Spanish Hapsburgs were so deformed by it they grew large beards to hide their jaws.
If you think about it the burquas make more sense. “Dad there’s no way I’m marrying my cousin, that’s gross.”
“Alright I’ll make you a deal, you can put a bag over her head and pretend she’s someone else.”
Only the rich aristocracy. Luckily I come from middle class stock. The richest man in my lineage was a Dutch ship captain in the 1600’s. He stepped off the boat here, resigned his commission and married a native girl. Thank God for fresh blood.
Like, let’s not be silly and cherry pick pictures just to prove our point, thereby demonstrating our underlying biases…that would be…disingenous right?
Disinguenity ain’t welcome 'round these parts.
What about Mansa Musa? King of the Mali Empire in the 14th century? He gave away so much Gold in Cairo it caused massive inflation.
Italians discriminated against their Sicilian brothers and sisters for no reason other than, their darker complexion. The Chinese and Japanese do as well.
@loppar has mentioned that in the USSR if you were of darker skin you weren’t allowed to hold certain positions in the military.
These are places where there were no Africans outside of the original folks that migrated out of Africa to various locations around the Easten Hemisphere.
So essentially, Raj would conclude from this darker skin = bad. IQ scores for darker skinned vs lighter skinned Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Iranians, etc anyone? And this still doesn’t explain why African Immigrants outperform native-born Whites in Europe and America in standardized testing and IQ measures.
If anything, this demonstrates we simply look for anyway to tribalize. Whether Egyptians were “Black” or Romans and Greeks were “White” doesn’t matter.
Prior to justification of the slave trade via skin color-based inferiority, you were classified by where you hailed from, not your “race.” That’s why Jesus was “Jesus Christ of Nazareth.” Shaka Zulu was Shaka from the Zulu kingdom of South Africa. Jeanne D’arc (of Arc); there are numerous examples throughout history.
The focus on skin color throughout the world in places where Africans weren’t even present continues to show an obsession with tribalism that has since carried over to the US focusing on those that have been done the most harm by Western society in the past 400 years.
Former governor of North Carolina, Charles B. Aycock (1901-1905) stated he wanted African Americans to be “uncompetitive.” This was a common term in the early to mid 20th century. If you segregate and forcibly educate a group to be uncompetitive, 100 years later that damage will not be rectified.
Yes, people of European descent contributed much to our current Western society and yes, we can continue said society with people not of European descent who believe in free enterprise and liberty. To state otherwise is fallacious and disingenuous, while also ignoring much of Europe and Eurasia’s history.
Problem with cousin marriage is very widespread. Over half of British Pakistanis are married to their first cousin. This results in the kids having thirteen times higher chance to be disabled. This is a real problem and blaming White people from the past doesn’t help the issue of it still occurring in Britain.
You missed @anon50325502 sarcasm there. Raj brought up inbreeding among Muslims. So we have him examples of Europeans inbreeding to the point of hemophilia and retardation. I don’t think usmc hates white people, since he is a giant white people.
Like, let’s not be silly and cherry pick pictures just to prove our point, thereby demonstrating our underlying biases…that would be…disingenous right?
Disinguenity ain’t welcome 'round these parts.[/quote]
People are referring to the ancient Egyptians because they are an example of an advanced civilization for their time period not just architecture. Apparent evidence of a time where blacks were the leaders of an advanced civilization.
What about Mansa Musa? King of the Mali Empire in the 14th century? He gave away so much Gold in Cairo it caused massive inflation.
Is this evidence of an advanced society of it’s time?
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In reference to Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans:
Italians discriminated against their Sicilian brothers and sisters for no reason other than, their darker complexion. The Chinese and Japanese do as well.
@loppar has mentioned that in the USSR if you were of darker skin you weren’t allowed to hold certain positions in the military.
These are places where there were no Africans outside of the original folks that migrated out of Africa to various locations around the Easten Hemisphere. [/quote]
This is all true I’m not denying Africans haven’t experienced discrimination in other countries. But is there a civilization built and maintained by blacks that is advanced?
So essentially, Raj would conclude from this darker skin = bad.[/quote]
That’s not what I’ve said, in fact I pointed out when people say “black” they aren’t talking about skin color they’re talking bout African ancestry. I gave the example of Vijay Singh who is as dark as black man but is never seen as black.
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IQ scores for darker skinned vs lighter skinned Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Iranians, etc anyone? [/quote]
Iran and India do not have high average IQs.
Are Chinese and Japanese people dark skinned? They can get ultra tanned like a white bodybuilder does for a competition but they suddenly aren’t “dark skinned”
[quote=“MoreMuscle, post:1612, topic:228119, full:true”]
And this still doesn’t explain why African Immigrants outperform native-born Whites in Europe and America in standardized testing and IQ measures.[/quote]
I haven’t seen that but what I have seen is Africans from Africa outperform US blacks. Anyways assuming what you say is correct I can explain it:
The immigrants who come over are outliers in IQ well above their racial average. However after a generation or 2, eventually their future descendants will regress to the mean of their racial average.
IIRC 2nd and 3rd generation Latino children do worse in America than their immigrant grand parents. The children of Arab muslims immigrants are more likely to become radicalized than their parents.
[quote=“MoreMuscle, post:1612, topic:228119, full:true”]
If anything, this demonstrates we simply look for anyway to tribalize. Whether Egyptians were “Black” or Romans and Greeks were “White” doesn’t matter.
Prior to justification of the slave trade via skin color-based inferiority, you were classified by where you hailed from, not your “race.” That’s why Jesus was “Jesus Christ of Nazareth.” Shaka Zulu was Shaka from the Zulu kingdom of South Africa. Jeanne D’arc (of Arc); there are numerous examples throughout history.
The focus on skin color throughout the world in places where Africans weren’t even present continues to show an obsession with tribalism that has since carried over to the US focusing on those that have been done the most harm by Western society in the past 400 years.
Former governor of North Carolina, Charles B. Aycock (1901-1905) stated he wanted African Americans to be “uncompetitive.” This was a common term in the early to mid 20th century. If you segregate and forcibly educate a group to be uncompetitive, 100 years later that damage will not be rectified. [/quote]
Humans by nature are tribal, it’s not an obsession, it’s just who we are as a species.
Muslim immigration grows so what? Same for Hispanics, Asian, Africans ect… If they come in legally via work visas or citizenship they have a right to be here and enjoy Monster Truck Rallys and Bud Light Lime like everyone else #murica