Bill Cosby - Black Conservative

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Ha ha…but you’re the one who said that SPIKE was the white equivalent of BET, not me. Wouldn’t that make YOU the dumb one?

When you were proven wrong you got all sorts upset and insulting. And now out of pure frustration you are calling me dumb.

My oh my how liberals hate to be wrong.

I’d have thought that you’d at least be used to it by now.

Bye.
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Spike is the MALE equivalent to MTV. I know plenty of chicks who watch and enjoy Spike.

I’m white, and while I don’t watch BET regularly, I definitely check out the underground rappers on one of their programs (via youtube but still).

BET is produced for a demographic, and they’re open about it. Build a bridge and kindly get the fuck over it.

(Oh, and there IS a latin network, and asian network, and a arabic network so… why the bitchin’?)

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Ha ha…but you’re the one who said that SPIKE was the white equivalent of BET, not me. Wouldn’t that make YOU the dumb one?

When you were proven wrong you got all sorts upset and insulting. And now out of pure frustration you are calling me dumb.

My oh my how liberals hate to be wrong.

I’d have thought that you’d at least be used to it by now.

Bye.

Spike is the MALE equivalent to MTV. I know plenty of chicks who watch and enjoy Spike.

I’m white, and while I don’t watch BET regularly, I definitely check out the underground rappers on one of their programs (via youtube but still).

BET is produced for a demographic, and they’re open about it. Build a bridge and kindly get the fuck over it.

(Oh, and there IS a latin network, and asian network, and a arabic network so… why the bitchin’?)[/quote]

It’s not worth it to discuss anything with him. He’s still stuck on one thing I said, when I admitted I was wrong and was making a comparison to something that no longer exists, yet he refuses to even respond to anything else I posted.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

And your point is faulted. We have not achieved full equality yet in society. We are damn close, but not there yet, therefore acting like the two are equally interchangeable makes no sense. A belief that blacks are a negative held by whites would still hold more power in society than if the same sentiment were held by blacks concerning whites. It is as simple as numbers on this one and pretending like it isn’t so doesn’t erase that.[/quote]

So what you are saying is that bigotry is acceptable in the black community but not the white community? Wrong is wrong no matter what, and it is during trying times that a person’s character is tested. [quote]

I already wrote there was a double standard. I also wrote why.[/quote]

And it is still justifying bad behavior.[quote]

You can believe what you wish but a black man will still have trouble getting a cab in NY.[/quote]

Yep, and interestingly even if the cab driver is black. The sad part is nobody has ever uncovered the real reason why. Tips. This is actually not about racism, but about greed. Try this out, go to NY, and hold up a sign saying “I TIP BIG!” in bold letters so the cab driver can see it. He’ll pull over for you. (Wow, this will probably start a debate.)[quote]

I don’t promote racism. I think what Wright said about Italians is dead wrong. How black society would react to random comments by older black people is probably different than how society would respond to similar comments from white people (mostly because of the greater social weight negative statements carry). I am simply telling you what the reality is. It is up to you how you deal with it.[/quote]

I am not saying you are promoting racism, just giving it a pass or even justifying it if the person is black.

Racism is a two way street. There will be no success in dealing with it if we only work on one side and allow it fester on the other.

[quote]The Mage wrote:
Professor X wrote:

And your point is faulted. We have not achieved full equality yet in society. We are damn close, but not there yet, therefore acting like the two are equally interchangeable makes no sense. A belief that blacks are a negative held by whites would still hold more power in society than if the same sentiment were held by blacks concerning whites. It is as simple as numbers on this one and pretending like it isn’t so doesn’t erase that.

So what you are saying is that bigotry is acceptable in the black community but not the white community? Wrong is wrong no matter what, and it is during trying times that a person’s character is tested. [/quote]

What am saying is that what you may perceive as “anti-white” sentiment is a generation pissed at what this country (which is MAJORITY WHITE) allowed to happen to black people.

It must be very easy for you, as someone who has probably experienced this shit on very rare occasions to tell everyone else how they should respond to it.

[quote]NY.

Yep, and interestingly even if the cab driver is black. The sad part is nobody has ever uncovered the real reason why. Tips. This is actually not about racism, but about greed. Try this out, go to NY, and hold up a sign saying “I TIP BIG!” in bold letters so the cab driver can see it. He’ll pull over for you. (Wow, this will probably start a debate.)[/quote]

That is still considered institutional racism, even if it is instigated by other black people. I have written before that some of the issues I have had based on skin color in my own profession come from older black women who have been conditioned to consider black professionals as less competent (I had one walk into the room, make a direct comment to my skin color and then request to see the other doctor on staff who was Asian). It is still racism and it all comes from the same place. It is basically no different than those studies using black and white dolls and asking the child which one is “bad”. Some of those people from that generation were that deeply affected by it.

This still goes on but people aren’t supposed to openly react to it by naming its source?

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I am not saying you are promoting racism, just giving it a pass or even justifying it if the person is black.[/quote]

I’m letting you know that what you may see as racism in some of these comments (barring ridiculous statements like “garlic nosed Italians”) is hatred for how a country allowed this to happen for so long. You can refuse to see that the issues are still occuring (all be it in smaller doses) all you wish. It won’t change the people hurt by it or how they will react to it in the future.

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
I’m white, and while I don’t watch BET regularly, I definitely check out the underground rappers on one of their programs (via youtube but still).

BET is produced for a demographic, and they’re open about it. Build a bridge and kindly get the fuck over it.

(Oh, and there IS a latin network, and asian network, and a arabic network so… why the bitchin’?)[/quote]

I used to watch the show Studio Jams on BET religiously – even recorded them. It was my favorite show on TV. They’d bring together a group of insanely talented musicians – of all races, primarily but not exclusively from the jazz world – and put them in a studio for a day. They’d pick a few songs, arrange them in whatever manner they saw fit, and JAM. Shit was GREAT.

This is the only clip I could find from the show…

[quote]SinisterMinister wrote:
This is the only clip I could find from the show…

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But, but, but that totally destroys Mick’s theory…it’s a conspiracy I tell you.

I used to watch BET alot back in the day when they would have live jazz on Sunday nights. I cannot remember ever seeing exclusively black musicians.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
SinisterMinister wrote:
This is the only clip I could find from the show…

But, but, but that totally destroys Mick’s theory…it’s a conspiracy I tell you.

I used to watch BET alot back in the day when they would have live jazz on Sunday nights. I cannot remember ever seeing exclusively black musicians.
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The host of BET Comic View was WHITE for about four years.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
SinisterMinister wrote:
This is the only clip I could find from the show…

But, but, but that totally destroys Mick’s theory…it’s a conspiracy I tell you.

I used to watch BET alot back in the day when they would have live jazz on Sunday nights. I cannot remember ever seeing exclusively black musicians.

The host of BET Comic View was WHITE for about four years.[/quote]

So after 4 years of being white he returned to being black? Must’ve been an interesting experience to have seen society from both perspactives. It appears he preferred being black…

[quote]SinisterMinister wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
SinisterMinister wrote:
This is the only clip I could find from the show…

But, but, but that totally destroys Mick’s theory…it’s a conspiracy I tell you.

I used to watch BET alot back in the day when they would have live jazz on Sunday nights. I cannot remember ever seeing exclusively black musicians.

The host of BET Comic View was WHITE for about four years.

So after 4 years of being white he returned to being black? Must’ve been an interesting experience to have seen society from both perspactives. It appears he preferred being black…

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Who wouldn’t?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
SinisterMinister wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
SinisterMinister wrote:
This is the only clip I could find from the show…

But, but, but that totally destroys Mick’s theory…it’s a conspiracy I tell you.

I used to watch BET alot back in the day when they would have live jazz on Sunday nights. I cannot remember ever seeing exclusively black musicians.

The host of BET Comic View was WHITE for about four years.

So after 4 years of being white he returned to being black? Must’ve been an interesting experience to have seen society from both perspactives. It appears he preferred being black…

Who wouldn’t?

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That’s why so many people are hanging out at the beaches trying to get a tan.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
You should have kept the money that your Mom gave you for reading comprehension classes…instead you gave it to Ron Paul.

I said “almost exclusively black”.

Now don’t you feel foolish?

No…after backing Ron Paul almost nothing can make you feel foolish. See maybe some good did come out of your support.

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I forgot…what was your original complaint?

oh yeah, I don’t care!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
SinisterMinister wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
SinisterMinister wrote:
This is the only clip I could find from the show…

But, but, but that totally destroys Mick’s theory…it’s a conspiracy I tell you.

I used to watch BET alot back in the day when they would have live jazz on Sunday nights. I cannot remember ever seeing exclusively black musicians.

The host of BET Comic View was WHITE for about four years.

So after 4 years of being white he returned to being black? Must’ve been an interesting experience to have seen society from both perspactives. It appears he preferred being black…

Who wouldn’t?

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I wouldn’t…