Big D*ck Inferiority Complex

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[quote]orion wrote:
You know the whole spiel about how intelligent people are always so full of doubt whereas utter idiots are cock sure about pretty much everything?
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Versions of the quote are attributed to Bertrand Russel and Darwin, among others. Similarly, the Dunning-Kruger effect, in which education leads to a greater awareness of one’s own ignorance.

But you oughtn’t appeal to my sense of chivalry on the matter; women are just as capable of making informed relationship choices as men. And I’m certainly not such a unique snowflake that my absence constitutes a deprivation.

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[quote]nephorm wrote:
women are just as capable of making informed relationship choices as men. [/quote]

nooooooooooooooo…

They really, truly, are utterly unable to do that.

Women can do a lot of things that man cant do, but in this area, noooooooooo…

Noooooooo…

No.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Women can do a lot of things that man cant do, but in this area, noooooooooo…

Noooooooo…

No. [/quote]

I won’t belabor the point. The following sentence was more than sufficient.

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[quote]nephorm wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Women can do a lot of things that man cant do, but in this area, noooooooooo…

Noooooooo…

No. [/quote]

I won’t belabor the point. The following sentence was more than sufficient.[/quote]

A snowflake does not have to be “unique” to start or stop an avalanche at the margin?

Plus, what does that have to do with anything, you just have to be more “quality” than the dick who would bone her otherwise and that is really not that hard to do.

I am getting pissed off that guys complain that girls only do assholes, even when there is no quality peenor in sight.

Come on, show them what prime beef looks like, she only knows ground burger meat.

You are a Phallic American, an oppressed minority basically, show some pride and no longer hide in the shadows.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Plus, what does that have to do with anything, you just have to be more “quality” than the dick who would bone her otherwise and that is really not that hard to do.

I am getting pissed off that guys complain that girls only do assholes, even when there is no quality peenor in sight.
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Here’s the thing: I don’t make that complaint. I made that complaint when I was in high school, when it was actually true of the people I knew. Even then, the guy was just as often NOT an asshole, the term was applied essentially out of jealousy. So I don’t buy into that argument. And I don’t see the women I know hooking up with assholes. Generally, they pick decent guys. Guys of whom I would never, even anonymously, say that I was better than.

Beefcake!

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You are a Phallic American, an oppressed minority basically, show some pride and no longer hide in the shadows. [/quote]

I don’t feel particularly oppressed. Nor am I hiding.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion, your FRAME is not what you want the world to be, or what you believe the world to be, though that is debatable, ultimately it is what you WILL the world to be.

You hold no such frame unless your name is Gaius Julius Caesar and you have a month named after you. [/quote]

I understand the concept of FRAME, orion. The frame through which I view the world and upon which I base my attitudes and actions. Although I do impose my will on others on a daily basis, that is not particularly a motivation of mine. As it is not of any emotionally healthy individual, in my opinion. Makes me think of a tantruming child, trying to will the world to be what it wants and then shrieking in pain and disappointment when the world does not respond as desired.[/quote]

You understand the Gestalt, but not the nuts and bolts of it.

The people who truly hold a strong frame are not even aware of it. A high quality man that has option does not have a mantra that he repeats over and over and over again, he never would never even begin to question it.

Do you think a preacher that stands in front of thousands and whips them into a frenzy says consciously to himself “oh, I got this whole Jesus frame going and this is why I do and say this, this and this”?

Admittedly, some do, but the rest just believe, it is unquestioned, powerful belief.

And, whether you think thats mature or not, that bends the world to your will.

The reason why this is even discussed in the game community is that so many men hold the belief that they are not worthy of getting laid and that bends the world to their will plenty.

If you studied psychology do not think about frame as something that is mostly conscious, to a large degree it is a set of basic, unconscious, core assumptions about the world and your place in it.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]nephorm wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Define boring.
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Not interesting; tedious.
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I found you interesting.

For what is worth: Many years ago, about a year after I joined and had observed you enough, I PMed you because I wanted to get to know you better.

Your reply was to say you were quite average looking, average this, average that…and I can’t remember how it ended but I was left with the message:

There is nothing to see here. You might as well not show interest.

My kind suggestion with my above experience with you is: Try not to protect yourself from rejection by creating rejection.

I ended up marrying a T-Nation intellectual similar to yourself: average looking, average hight…average on the looking surface.

It could have been you.

:slight_smile:
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I quite agree, and have seen a photo.

I went for someone who is average looking, below average height, in average shape (which is to say out of shape relative to me and most posters on this board) and who got mad at me when I called him “sexy” for probably the first year we were together because he didn’t believe me and was offended at what he viewed as false compliments. I don’t know how many times I had to point out that I couldn’t keep my hands off him - “how can you not know that I find you sexy?” - before he stopped getting irritated when I said nice things. I think there was also an element of worry that I was after something, but I am in nice shape financially, better than him actually, so he eventually set that concern aside, too. It’s all been an uphill climb, I can tell you that!

If Neph were in the proper age group for me I would absolutely have pursued him when I found myself single.

Because I see definite signs of cocky and funny on these boards. :slight_smile:

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion, your FRAME is not what you want the world to be, or what you believe the world to be, though that is debatable, ultimately it is what you WILL the world to be.

You hold no such frame unless your name is Gaius Julius Caesar and you have a month named after you. [/quote]

I understand the concept of FRAME, orion. The frame through which I view the world and upon which I base my attitudes and actions. Although I do impose my will on others on a daily basis, that is not particularly a motivation of mine. As it is not of any emotionally healthy individual, in my opinion. Makes me think of a tantruming child, trying to will the world to be what it wants and then shrieking in pain and disappointment when the world does not respond as desired.[/quote]

You understand the Gestalt, but not the nuts and bolts of it.

The people who truly hold a strong frame are not even aware of it. A high quality man that has option does not have a mantra that he repeats over and over and over again, he never would never even begin to question it.

Do you think a preacher that stands in front of thousands and whips them into a frenzy says consciously to himself “oh, I got this whole Jesus frame going and this is why I do and say this, this and this”?

Admittedly, some do, but the rest just believe, it is unquestioned, powerful belief.

And, whether you think thats mature or not, that bends the world to your will.

The reason why this is even discussed in the game community is that so many men hold the belief that they are not worthy of getting laid and that bends the world to their will plenty.

If you studied psychology do not think about frame as something that is mostly conscious, to a large degree it is a set of basic, unconscious, core assumptions about the world and your place in it. [/quote]

I use “frame” in the sense you use it because I have been reading TNation and the PUA literature for several years now and so am versed in PUA language. I find it a handy concept for viewing and discussing healthy ego function. You are correct that it shouldn’t have to be examined, but if things are going wrong it is not a bad place to start. My point for you is that for all of your examination of your own frame, many of your guiding premises seem to be based in fear and mistrust rather than in self-esteem and the assumed reciprocal esteem of others. That, to me, indicates a weak frame (shaky ego).

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I really ought to stay away from these conversations. They don’t appeal to the better parts of my nature.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

I quite agree, and have seen a photo.

I went for someone who is average looking, below average height, in average shape (which is to say out of shape relative to me and most posters on this board) and who got mad at me when I called him “sexy” for probably the first year we were together because he didn’t believe me and was offended at what he viewed as false compliments. I don’t know how many times I had to point out that I couldn’t keep my hands off him - “how can you not know that I find you sexy?” - before he stopped getting irritated when I said nice things. I think there was also an element of worry that I was after something, but I am in nice shape financially, better than him actually, so he eventually set that concern aside, too. It’s all been an uphill climb, I can tell you that!
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I am glad you had the maturity not to take it personally or feel irritated/mad in return.

The culture in all three countries I have been in is particularly harsh on shorter males - it is a shame but it is what it is.

My husband did not get irritated when I regularly expressed how hot I think he is but progressed from a factual and logically objective “I am not but I am glad you think so”, to “I am glad you think so” to just grabbing me and kissing me with a little spark of joy in his eyes after I say it now.

2 and a half years of marriage and he has finally surrendered.

I also find America is particularly harsh on average looking men.

It is like just not being ugly is not good enough.

There is nothing wrong with ugly either. Before marriage I had a tendency to prefer the ugly ones ( somewhat out of self interest: it makes my average looks prettier - ha! ).

Kidding aside: I tend to prefer brains over pretty face.

I liked a pretty boy once when I was on swim team age 13 and he was incredibly high maintenance.

I learned my lesson straight away and never felt attracted to them ever since.

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[quote]nephorm wrote:

Whatever my candor in online conversations, I can assure you that my real-world interactions are far different.[/quote]

I understand. I am also in favor of real-world instead of virtual.

I am the only person I know who is not on facebook.

T-Nation is the only online forum I frequent and I do take very long breaks of absence.

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Great thread. Lots of interesting points.

My input:

I don’t profess to be the greatest lover in the world but I have been told by a number of woman that I have an amazing cock.

I’m guess I’m small by Internet standards 6.5" (close to 7" after leg day) and about a 6" circumference.

I have a thick, pronounced vein that runs the length of the top of my penis culminating in a bulb type thing just before the knob starts. This is what a lot of woman have commented on, especially after I have found their g spot with it. in fact I got laid a few times back in the day from word of mouth alone.

Now, My wiife is a brutally honest woman and admits she had about 40-50 sexual partners before we met (not uncommon for Australian women). It used to bother me in the past, when I was young and insecure, but not anymore and i feel comfortable with her telling me about some of her encounters. She has had men much larger than me and openly admits she

I feel privileged that she settled for my mere 6.5 incher and it keeps her satisfied.

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[quote]Huh? wrote:

Now, My wiife is a brutally honest woman and admits she had about 40-50 sexual partners before we met (not uncommon for Australian women).

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LOL, depends on where u go fishing.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

I quite agree, and have seen a photo.

I went for someone who is average looking, below average height, in average shape (which is to say out of shape relative to me and most posters on this board) and who got mad at me when I called him “sexy” for probably the first year we were together because he didn’t believe me and was offended at what he viewed as false compliments. I don’t know how many times I had to point out that I couldn’t keep my hands off him - “how can you not know that I find you sexy?” - before he stopped getting irritated when I said nice things. I think there was also an element of worry that I was after something, but I am in nice shape financially, better than him actually, so he eventually set that concern aside, too. It’s all been an uphill climb, I can tell you that!
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I am glad you had the maturity not to take it personally or feel irritated/mad in return.

The culture in all three countries I have been in is particularly harsh on shorter males - it is a shame but it is what it is.

My husband did not get irritated when I regularly expressed how hot I think he is but progressed from a factual and logically objective “I am not but I am glad you think so”, to “I am glad you think so” to just grabbing me and kissing me with a little spark of joy in his eyes after I say it now.

2 and a half years of marriage and he has finally surrendered.

I also find America is particularly harsh on average looking men.

It is like just not being ugly is not good enough.

There is nothing wrong with ugly either. Before marriage I had a tendency to prefer the ugly ones ( somewhat out of self interest: it makes my average looks prettier - ha! ).

Kidding aside: I tend to prefer brains over pretty face.

I liked a pretty boy once when I was on swim team age 13 and he was incredibly high maintenance.

I learned my lesson straight away and never felt attracted to them ever since.
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Women are really harsh on short men.

Could you expand on why you prefer “ugly” men to make yourself appear better looking?

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

Women are really harsh on short men.

Could you expand on why you prefer “ugly” men to make yourself appear better looking?
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I doubt that she “prefers” them.

I bet that she does not care.

In my experience, the more beautiful a woman is, the less she cares.

That is what she brings to the table, she has it in abundance, what do you have to offer?

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion, your FRAME is not what you want the world to be, or what you believe the world to be, though that is debatable, ultimately it is what you WILL the world to be.

You hold no such frame unless your name is Gaius Julius Caesar and you have a month named after you. [/quote]

I understand the concept of FRAME, orion. The frame through which I view the world and upon which I base my attitudes and actions. Although I do impose my will on others on a daily basis, that is not particularly a motivation of mine. As it is not of any emotionally healthy individual, in my opinion. Makes me think of a tantruming child, trying to will the world to be what it wants and then shrieking in pain and disappointment when the world does not respond as desired.[/quote]

You understand the Gestalt, but not the nuts and bolts of it.

The people who truly hold a strong frame are not even aware of it. A high quality man that has option does not have a mantra that he repeats over and over and over again, he never would never even begin to question it.

Do you think a preacher that stands in front of thousands and whips them into a frenzy says consciously to himself “oh, I got this whole Jesus frame going and this is why I do and say this, this and this”?

Admittedly, some do, but the rest just believe, it is unquestioned, powerful belief.

And, whether you think thats mature or not, that bends the world to your will.

The reason why this is even discussed in the game community is that so many men hold the belief that they are not worthy of getting laid and that bends the world to their will plenty.

If you studied psychology do not think about frame as something that is mostly conscious, to a large degree it is a set of basic, unconscious, core assumptions about the world and your place in it. [/quote]

I use “frame” in the sense you use it because I have been reading TNation and the PUA literature for several years now and so am versed in PUA language. I find it a handy concept for viewing and discussing healthy ego function. You are correct that it shouldn’t have to be examined, but if things are going wrong it is not a bad place to start. My point for you is that for all of your examination of your own frame, many of your guiding premises seem to be based in fear and mistrust rather than in self-esteem and the assumed reciprocal esteem of others. That, to me, indicates a weak frame (shaky ego).

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To me, that indicates that many women act like fucking bastards.

I know, it does not feeeeeeeeeeel that way, but the female genetic programming is mercyless and necessarily so.

What many men dont get is that the genetic programming of women is not there to spite them, but has its iron fist on the woman herself, otherwise it would be impossible to game them.

Gaming woman SHOULD be impossible.

The have better social awareness, more mirror neurons which leads to something that borders on empathy compared to men and I do not mean pedestrian empathy but actually being able to “feel” someone elses emotions.

It should not be able to be done.

But it can, because here utterly mercy- and ruthless genetic programming rules her and not the man riffing on it.

As long as this is not publicly recognized, as long as we pretend that woman are rational players in this area, on par with men (which would not be particularily rational, but still), as long as laws are made that give her all the power in such decisions, as long as she is encouraged to “follow her heart”, I shall keep my shaky ego, most of my money and what is left of my dignity, thank you.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

Women are really harsh on short men.

Could you expand on why you prefer “ugly” men to make yourself appear better looking?
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I doubt that she “prefers” them.

I bet that she does not care.

In my experience, the more beautiful a woman is, the less she cares.

That is what she brings to the table, she has it in abundance, what do you have to offer?[/quote]

Orion is correct.

I would have not rejected a man on physical preference.

Before my husband I had fallen for a man who was both short and “ugly” ( I always find this perception changes when we learn how to really see people ).

In my experience, however, both men and women that have facial beauty going for them tend to bring less to the table - generally speaking.
Of course, there are exceptions.

People of average looks and or “ugly” tend to cultivate inner qualities to be able to attract a mate: they have to go to “work” just to be seen, as it were.

My initial comment was more of an observation that women who shun the “ugly” are missing on a plus which is they get to “appear” more beautiful next to him - in the way that if you are 180lbs you appear more muscular next to a 140 lbs person than you would next to the 325 lbs football player giant on the other thread.

If a woman is going to be “shallow” in her choice of partner she is actually better off ( it would be preferable for her image ) with someone scoring less than her in the social scale of perception.

Just my opinion.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

Women are really harsh on short men.

Could you expand on why you prefer “ugly” men to make yourself appear better looking?
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I doubt that she “prefers” them.

I bet that she does not care.

In my experience, the more beautiful a woman is, the less she cares.

That is what she brings to the table, she has it in abundance, what do you have to offer?[/quote]

Orion is correct.

I would have not rejected a man on physical preference.

Before my husband I had fallen for a man who was both short and “ugly” ( I always find this perception changes when we learn how to really see people ).

In my experience, however, both men and women that have facial beauty going for them tend to bring less to the table - generally speaking.
Of course, there are exceptions.

People of average looks and or “ugly” tend to cultivate inner qualities to be able to attract a mate: they have to go to “work” just to be seen, as it were.

My initial comment was more of an observation that women who shun the “ugly” are missing on a plus which is they get to “appear” more beautiful next to him - in the way that if you are 180lbs you appear more muscular next to a 140 lbs person than you would next to the 325 lbs football player giant on the other thread.

If a woman is going to be “shallow” in her choice of partner she is actually better off ( it would be preferable for her image ) with someone scoring less than her in the social scale of perception.

Just my opinion.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

Women are really harsh on short men.

Could you expand on why you prefer “ugly” men to make yourself appear better looking?
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I doubt that she “prefers” them.

I bet that she does not care.

In my experience, the more beautiful a woman is, the less she cares.

That is what she brings to the table, she has it in abundance, what do you have to offer?[/quote]

Orion is correct.

I would have not rejected a man on physical preference.

Before my husband I had fallen for a man who was both short and “ugly” ( I always find this perception changes when we learn how to really see people ).

In my experience, however, both men and women that have facial beauty going for them tend to bring less to the table - generally speaking.
Of course, there are exceptions.

People of average looks and or “ugly” tend to cultivate inner qualities to be able to attract a mate: they have to go to “work” just to be seen, as it were.

My initial comment was more of an observation that women who shun the “ugly” are missing on a plus which is they get to “appear” more beautiful next to him - in the way that if you are 180lbs you appear more muscular next to a 140 lbs person than you would next to the 325 lbs football player giant on the other thread.

If a woman is going to be “shallow” in her choice of partner she is actually better off ( it would be preferable for her image ) with someone scoring less than her in the social scale of perception.

Just my opinion.
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That is an interesting read. I asked because a woman I was pursing told me that I was too good looking for her to date. This girl is smoking hot.

I would say your observations are mostly accurate.

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My dick looks like a banana. It curves towards the left once u get about 6.5" thru the shaft. Bitches love it. She loved every minute of it. And at the end of the day the fact is this: (w all due respect) if a chick is gona be a hoe, shes gona b a hoe and cheat. simple. Like you havent had girls that mightve fucked you a lil better or sucked it a little better, big deal. keep diggin thru the closet and bones are bound to hit u in the head. Leave the past in the past and move on.